O’ Connell Street, Dublin
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came across cool pictures of the michael collins film set, the gpo etc, it was built beside broadstone
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebfotos/2767055039/in/pool-784879@N20Ah jaysus aj, you’re killing me with quoting pictures! The photo account bandwidth is reaching boiling point, at over 300,000 hits a month! (though maybe that’s a gentle hint to me just to stop posting pictures).
Agreed the building could do with some serious TLC, as with many similar structures on O’Connell Street and Westmoreland Street. One reason to be thankful for the many second-rate uses in the upper levels of these buildings is the generally good state of preservation of original features made possible by their occupancy, allbethey often in poor condition or covered over. The more cash injected in times past generally equalled a parallel increase in the removal of such features.
Where there is separate access, there is significant potential for permanent mixed commercial and residential uses of these upper floors, with fabulous views out over the city’s principal thoroughfare. As far as I’m aware, the apartments over the Grand Central Bar, and over the Happy Ring House (now possibly unoccupied), are the only residences on the entire street.
O’Connell street smells of flowers according to this dublin central promo
http://www.laffertystudio.com/Content/Motion.html@lostexpectation wrote:
O’Connell street smells of flowers according to this dublin central promo
http://www.laffertystudio.com/Content/Motion.htmlNice link thanks!
The promo for Dublin Central is too vague and er, flowery….
The one above it for Metro North is much more impressive!Ironically, it shows the ski slope in a particularly ridiculous light relative to its context.
Only noticed last night that the groom of the Happy Ring House no longer illuminates. Apparently he’s been like that for some time, leading to speculation about a rift in the relationship, and the distinct possibility that the wedding might even be off. There were further rumours about herself left up there on her own, but they seemed more humorous at 4.30am. The neon signage is one of the few such installations in the city that is a Protected Structure (as part of the wider building).
I think the Royal Dublin was on fire earlier? Smoke billowing everywhere on O’Connell Street
More likely brick dust…or possibly asbestos 😀
Was just on O Connell St and there’s workmen removing the windows from the top floor of Hammam Buildings, including over the parts which weren’t cleaned/restored on the far right, which I thought was a bit odd. When I’d left the outermost (smaller) windows were still there, the two larger windows on the left were gone, and the larger windows to the right were being hammered out. No idea what they were putting in instead…
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/appeals-backlog-delays-cinema-site-plans-1743579.html
appeals-backlog-delays-cinema-site-plansits been there how many years and they blame people appealing???
not much discussion on this… the hearing i mean
The Oral Hearing was only a month ago. That’s hardly a delay.
What sort of discussion did you want on the hearing? I left because got fed up hanging around listening to the 1916 brigade prattle on for two days about the significance and sensitivity of the National Monument houses on Moore Street. (One bloke started reading an entire academic journal article into the record, and when he was asked how long he would take and if he intended to read the whole thing, his reply was “But… we have five days.” :rolleyes: )
I fully accept that the site is important, but what’s their position? The various parties told us exactly the same story in a variety of ways, each excruciating in its detail, about the need for kid-gloved handling of the remaining fabric. O-o-o-o-o-kay… So, if they have reservations about the current proposal (and it wasn’t clear that they did- I think they just wanted a day out), what’s their alternative?
No suggestions? I thought not.
I’ve no idea what happened after day two. My sanity required my non-attendance.
Carlton thread- https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=85
On the other hand, I was fortunate enough to witness the inspector say, after a detailed explanation of the delivery route one objector wanted kept open during construction, “Yes. I have inspected your passage.”
I fully accept that the site is important, but what’s their position? The various parties told us exactly the same story in a variety of ways, each excruciating in its detail, about the need for kid-gloved handling of the remaining fabric. O-o-o-o-o-kay… So, if they have reservations about the current proposal (and it wasn’t clear that they did- I think they just wanted a day out), what’s their alternative?
No suggestions? I thought not.
Well if you had hung about you would have seen the alternative proposal that was presented at the Oral Hearing, a comprehensive renovation of the terrace and a marker in bronze of the proclaimation outside No. 16.
I’ve no idea what happened after day two. My sanity required my non-attendance.
Patronising people who actually have a personal connection with Moore St and the Rising and who presented an viable alternative treatment of a National Monument that you couldn’t be bothered to stay and see says more about you than them. Personally I thought the developers side was the one droning on, they took up far,far more time than the appellants, but then the developers crew were paid to be there, the appellants actually care. I’m sure the Senior Counsel with dodgy interpretations of ‘curtilage’ was paid handsomely.
I think they just wanted a day out
I took annual leave to be there, I find that comment to be very insulting.
Well in fairness ctesiphon, the third parties had to sit there all day of the Wednesday and Thursday listening to consultant after consultant for the developer telling us how wonderful the scheme was in every way, including a particularly extraordinary 4-hour marathon by the developer’s Heritage Consultant which tested the bounds of the English language in how it can be used to describe demolition of historic buildings, or not, as the case may be.
@Smithfield Resi wrote:
Well if you had hung about you would have seen the alternative proposal that was presented at the Oral Hearing, a comprehensive renovation of the terrace and a marker in bronze of the proclaimation outside No. 16.
How is that different from what the applicant is proposing? The plaque? That could have been discussed in 10 minutes flat.
@Smithfield Resi wrote:
Patronising people who actually have a personal connection with Moore St and the Rising and who presented an viable alternative treatment of a National Monument that you couldn’t be bothered to stay and see says more about you than them. Personally I thought the developers side was the one droning on, they took up far,far more time than the appellants, but then the developers crew were paid to be there, the appellants actually care. I’m sure the Senior Counsel with dodgy interpretations of ‘curtilage’ was paid handsomely.
Personal connections should count for nought in this equation. This is a planning Oral Hearing.
I fully agree that the applicant’s team was as guilty of droning on as the 1916 brigade. I still have nightmares about attending the wedding of a daughter of the Heritage Consultant, because if this is how he talks when he’s supposed to be staying on topic…
At the opposite end of the street, at its entrance, sadly we encounter a typical example of the lack of quality aspired to in Dublin city centre on the part of Dublin City Council. A small detail, but an important one, it involves the most iconic street sign in the State.
Extraordinarily, the perfectly sound, elegant metal plate with ‘O’Connell St. Lower’ lettering, beautiful Irish script and border all cast in high relief, sited on this corner building for at least the past twenty years, has just been pasted over with a horribly cheap flimsy piece of junk with garish italicised Irish double the size of the supposedly dominant English.
The former sign was the quality of the surviving Bachelors Walk sign around the corner – itself also poorly maintained.
Who comes up with this muck, and more importantly, who signs off on its ham-fisted attachment over an existing sign, never mind a larger one?! It just defies reason.
The new Irish is significantly different to that of the former (rather hidden) sign, suggesting this was the reason for replacement. But even if the Irish was antiquated, it still deserved retention as a prominent example of the evolving official use of the language and the heritage of the street. Either way, the crassness of the new design and its preposterous mounting is the real issue here, and typifies the lack of commitment to quality in Dublin’s public domain.
Can you just imagine the same treatment by City of Westminster Council? One thinks not.
That aint the work of the council, its some militant looney pro-irish group they have been doing this for a while, same crowd behind trying to change car reg plates to irish. Tell the council and it will be removed!
The Irish should be scapped on them altogether, it looks so much more elegant in well made cast signs in english, just like the ones that were restored in Cork city recently.
@lauder wrote:
The Irish should be scapped on them altogether, it looks so much more elegant in well made cast signs in english, just like the ones that were restored in Cork city recently.
Not that i want this thread to veer off-course into an Irish language discussion, but I disagree about making the signs English only.
Even if you ignore any heritage, preservation or language-encouragement, at the very least we should have standard street signs with both languages for the benefit of visitors.
The Oxford Street example above is something that’s done (in my brief experience of London) well and consistently.
I struggle to think of any category of street furniture or signs in Ireland that are either consistent or well maintanted.
Maybe a standard street sign in city center areas (I’m not advocating removing the very old ones by the way) is to be encouraged? I can’t imagine leaving Irish out of that.I think when you consider the piece of crap building to which that sign is attached, looking like something from a 70s slum, details like these pale into insignificance. True, there’s absolutely no attention to detail in Ireland, but there’s absolutely no attention to larger scales either.
@lauder wrote:
That aint the work of the council, its some militant looney pro-irish group they have been doing this for a while, same crowd behind trying to change car reg plates to irish. Tell the council and it will be removed!
Is this true??? Who are you on about?
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