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    • #705661
      Jeremy
      Participant

      Not strictly architecture, but definitely design…

      The City Council Formerly Known as the Corpo has said that they can’t put any place names other than “An Lár” on their new road signs cos the text would have to be too small to read.
      Have a look at the new signs:
      http://www.dublincorp.ie/traffic/traff.htm
      (the site is also really crappily designed – best do a site search for ‘signage guide’)

      Am I wrong or is there tons of blank space on them?

      And, like the ‘Lights On Daytime’ campaign, this new traffic plan has no legal backing so they can’t actually force drivers to change their habits, can they?

    • #720651
      Jeremy
      Participant

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    • #720652
      Papworth
      Participant

      Pity we won’t read An Metro or An Tube in aice An Lar until 2016

    • #720653
      Ronan C
      Participant

      I quite like the look of the new signs. They look like others i’ve see in Paris and Barcelona.

      Very slick indeed.

    • #720654
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      I’m sure its a euro standard…. i don’t imagine that the EU would let you just go and design any auld look and feel for signage

    • #720655
      kefu
      Participant

      The signs look nice.
      But as far as I can see, the only way to comprehend them fully is by learning off each of the these seventy numbered junctions they’ve created and also the names of all the roads in Dublin.
      I mean who knows what the R806 or R815 are. I can see them on these map but I’ve never even seen them referred to as that before.
      Also, it should read City instead of An Lar. These things are supposed to help tourists, not confuse them even more.

    • #720656
      dc3
      Participant

      Ever notice there are no signs to the second largest city, Cork , going out of Dublin?

      Cork is a diversion off the Limerick road for traffic planners.

    • #720657
      Rory W
      Participant

      According to The Irish Times Breaking News “He (Seamus “don’t care who runs it” Brennan) is also said to be worried over the new signposts, which do not follow State regulations. Talks between the council and the Department of Transport are due this week.”

      Wonderful!

      No doubt a test case will be taken next!

    • #720658
      Simon
      Participant

      All they had to do was erect signs with the name of the nearest booser on them as Dubliners have always travelled these “orbital routes” with pubs in mind i.e. Take a right at The Black Horse continue until you come to Gaffney’s and then proceed until you see Mooney’s …if you come to a pub called An Beal Bocht you have gone too far so let me know and start over again.

    • #720659
      Papworth
      Participant

      The new signage should have at least been given a chance.

      These signs are not magic carpets and the Orbital Routes are essentially Victorian and Georgian versions of the M50 !! designed for horse and carts. 90% of said signs now in DCC sheds it’s a joke at our expence. Pity Minister Brennan did not stay another week gliding along the state of the art Metro system in Barcelona then all the signs would have been up and would have directed him home once he managed to escape the bedlam of Dublin Airport. This is Paddy Wackery at its best – it’s a wonder it’s not been beamed around the world on Sky News.

      ‘when they were up they were up and when they were down they were down and when they were 10% up they were neither up nor down’

      What An Lar of laughs.

      Looks like someone is looking for Owen Keegan’s head on a plate / sign.

    • #720660
      alastair
      Participant

      The politics of the matter are unimportant.

      The design of the signs is poor, and needs to be addressed properly. I’m just surprised they didn’t consider this earlier on in their ‘consultative’ process.

      (note: personally I’m not convinced by the numbered junctions approach, but the design of the signs is unarguably well off the mark)

    • #720661
      potlatch
      Participant

      Wow, this must be a refuge for sign supporters. They certainly should have been given a chance but did you really expect people to be supportive of them at large? I didn’t – we never give anything new a chance.

      I look forward to see what happens with the introduction of Luas and Underground maps whenever they arrive! “But look at all the colours!”

    • #720662
      alastair
      Participant

      Originally posted by Paul Clerkin
      I’m sure its a euro standard…. i don’t imagine that the EU would let you just go and design any auld look and feel for signage

      that’s what they did. There isn’t any standardisation across europe, but these signs don’t even adhere to the (already poor design standards) of Irish roadsigns.

    • #720663
      GregF
      Participant

      Anyone who loves the newly designed signs would they like to expain their meaning…..Ok ‘An Lar’ is city centre……but what about the rest………
      PS…. I am a slow learner and slow driver.

    • #720664
      deepnote
      Participant

      all drivers in Dublin are slow drivers, so we have time to read complicated signs

    • #720665
      Simon
      Participant

      We only rate 2nd to Calcutta as the slowest drivers in the world because we have been lead by the slowest goverments / learners of city transport planning ever in the world.

    • #720666
      GregF
      Participant

      ……….too add …….maybe we are a slow people……..full stop.

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