New tallest building in Dublin to form part of Hammond Lane development (2)
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- March 11, 2000 at 5:08 pm #705177
Paul Clerkin
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March 11, 2000 at 5:09 pm #717843Anonymous
InactiveWell – the road I would hardly term a civic space. In actual fact the model seems to indicate a new bridge across the canal entrance – is this the case? Are we going to turn this quiet corner of the quays into a dual carriageway?
I must say that the job that has been done with the campshires thus far has been marvellous. Are they lighted at night time? The problem I noted in my last posting is that this series of building seems largely closed to the quays. Oh for an open minded space as against the closed minded single purpose building and developments the are the norm in Dublin. (I have been reading Richard Roger’s excellent ‘Cities for a Small Planet’).
March 11, 2000 at 5:10 pm #717844MG
ParticipantThey’re doing a magnificent job on the campshires and for that the Corpo should take a bow. That definitely looks like a new bridge because there’s a set of locks just near there and no bridge as far as I remember.
March 11, 2000 at 5:24 pm #717845Paul Clerkin
KeymasterWhat I was going to say (before the thread blew up) was that there’s very little opportunity for the development to access the river and canal side as an amenity area because of the way it is surrounded by road from the campshires. It is howver a quiet enough area of the docklands as its on the road to nowhere.
I sincerely hope that they will not build a new bridge there, as its nice and quiet with the lock access.
March 11, 2000 at 8:08 pm #717846Anonymous
InactiveWhat is a / what are campshire(s)?… not in my dictionary!
March 12, 2000 at 11:57 am #717847Jas
ParticipantThje campshires are the area between the roadway and the water… they’re the actual quayside where in the past all the dock cranes were on rails.
July 17, 2001 at 8:53 am #717848Paul Clerkin
KeymasterI see that this development has got permission.
July 17, 2001 at 9:13 am #717849GregF
Participant…..Good!
July 17, 2001 at 9:21 am #717850Paul Clerkin
KeymasterDamn I cannot find the picture of the model anymore on the Indo site…. anyone got one?
July 17, 2001 at 10:13 am #717851urbanisto
ParticipantThe Campshires are looking good. Its just a pity it all ends at Matt Talbot Bridge. Has anyone noticed the mess of the pavement and roadway there. Georges Quay and the area in front of Tara St Station are a bit a of a disgrace as well.
July 17, 2001 at 1:27 pm #717852Rory W
ParticipantI seem to remember the bridge being for public transport use only when originally mooted. Hope that they go ahead and build the thing as the momementum that was around last year seems to have slowed consideribly. Has anyone else noticed that?
Paul can you fix that picture?
July 17, 2001 at 3:03 pm #717853iuxta
ParticipantPaul,
the picture seems to have dissappeared. Is this the O’Muire Smyth tower scheme with the curved facade towards the river?July 17, 2001 at 3:08 pm #717854Paul Clerkin
KeymasterThe picture was on the Indo website and now its gone…. looking for an alternate….
July 18, 2001 at 9:04 am #717855GregF
Participant…I’ve been to Dubai lately…….impressive towers blocks to see ….all sort of shapes and forms against the skyline, oozing wealth and flamboyant style…….The one proposed for the Dublin Docks evokes somewhat the same. I wish we could have a lot more.
July 18, 2001 at 11:09 am #717856LOB
Participanthere is the Burj Al Arab hotel by WS Atkins-the interior is a little on the opulant side but the overall feel of the building is quite exciting http://www.geocities.com/big_buildings5/baa.html
July 19, 2001 at 9:02 am #717857GregF
ParticipantThats somewhat of a coincidence …the photo of the hotel in Dubai is a bit similar to the proposed design by O’ Muire Smyth Architects for the former Hammond Lane works, Sir John Rogersons Quay
July 23, 2001 at 9:50 am #717858LOB
ParticipantIn the absence of any images of the proposed development I am posting a couple of sketches of Elevations I copied at the time of the planning application

July 23, 2001 at 6:45 pm #717859MG
ParticipantIt’s going to be quite bulky looking from one direction isn’t it?
July 23, 2001 at 7:05 pm #717860Anonymous
InactiveI blame Frank Gehry for this. All new buildings have to look “interesting”, whether or not this has any relevance to their function or their surroundings.
How quaintly old-fashioned rectilinear buidlings now seem. As the critic Rowan Moore observed in London recently, even Norman Foster buildings now wear “I’m Interesting” T-shirts.
Maybe this is why I rather like such architects as David Chipperfield, who resolutely refuses to do billowing buildings, and sticks to immaculately detailed shoeboxes.
It takes a Gehry, or a Piano, to do this kind of swoopy architecture thing well. But we don’t want too much trickle-down effect.
Incidentally, did you know that you’re going to get a Danny Libeskind building down in the Dublin docks?
July 24, 2001 at 9:09 am #717861GregF
ParticipantAh come on ……Dublin is about to get something a bit different …well in comparison to the plethora of existing dross and we are to critisize it…..hurray for Gehry and Co for inspiring the ‘minnows’ and ‘also rans’. It is 2001 please remember and according to A.C.Clarke and Kubrick we should be living in big wheels in space by now…..We in Ireland have barely touched on the vein of the emblems of 20th century architecture. Poor auld K.Roche had a master plan for part of the docks too and his plain auld ‘Cubic’ piles got the push.
To add there is a good image of the proposed building for Hammond Lane in Frank McDonalds book …’The Construction of Dublin’
The Dublin docks may have been somewhat interesting…well in comparison to the rest of the city had all the original plans gone ahead…pre the curb on height etc…..
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