New Public Space for Docklands
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Surely the banal building on the left ( the one fronting Pearse) is the weak point.
The libeskind is very interesting and should be a draw.
Provided it doesn’t fall over, of course.
at least the banal building on the left and the Mateus hotel can age and participate in the urban situation where libeskind’s inarticulate icon of apathy will never be able to do anything but dominate this space for better or worse.
it may look good when its brand new and in vouge (although in my opinion is that it already looks dated) but in a couple of years, when this kind of wilfull formal gymnastics is no longer trendy this building will scream louder than anyone wants it to.
Im not totally against libeskind, the jewish museum is a very impressive building, but he had 10 years to design that and has not produced anything approaching it in design integrity or sophistication since. especially not here.
The Imperial War Museum is quite impressive too.
It looks very impressive alright. The red carpet is extremely naff, to be quite honest, but i like the notion of it extending into the dock..the possibility of starts/dignitaries arriving to the concert hall by water is a very attractive notion, though perhaps not envisaged.
There was to be another “tall” building going up down in the south docks but was blocked by Nimbys. Would have been beside the old grain silo.
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/property/2005/0203/2673775489RPARCFRANK.html
Would have added to the area, I thought. Good design too.
Can we keep the tall buildings discussion to the Dublin Skyline thread? fergalr- in a nutshell, if you looked at that one you’d see that the issue isn’t simply Nimbys and the IGS opposed to height at all costs.
Based on the link posted by Paul, I wonder just how red the red carpet will be- it seems that the quantity of glass in the mix is limited by structural considerations, so just as in Newcastle, where the blueness of the ‘carpet’ was debated, we might end up with a pink carpet rather than a red one. Or perhaps a Mateus Rosé carpet? 😮
ctesiphon – as mentioned above, there seems to be a same of the red paving down on the corner by pearse street along with a sample of the red pole – the redness of the red pole is very impressive, i didn’t know you could easily get such red red, the paving is less impressive.
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ctesiphon – as mentioned above, there seems to be a same of the red paving down on the corner by pearse street along with a sample of the red pole – the redness of the red pole is very impressive, i didn’t know you could easily get such red red, the paving is less impressive.
I saw the red pole on saturday when I went for a walkabout around the south docklands, but didn’t see any red paving. Perhaps because it’s not that red? Also, pedestrian access around there is pretty limited at the moment due to construction of the building that will form the south edge of the square. (I should probably admit that part of the reason I posted the comment about the pinkness of the proposed ground treatment was the temptation to make the Mateus Ros
Not that I know of, GregF. I haven’t seen it in operation, but neither have I heard that it’s been discontinued. If your question is on foot of my pic above, I may have misled you- that’s a bit of graffiti on a temporary hoarding near the proposed square. Some local wag’s opinion rather than any particular fact. A bit like the one below.:)
that entire project is totally over rated. I have yet to see anything that is exciting, big or new. maybe if they have a go at the port relocation we will actually see something of consequence
I agree in terms of what has been delivered thus far however projects such as this proposal as well as:
The Macken St bridge
U2 Tower
Aries Hotel
Liebskind Theatrehave the potential to prove us wrong
For the record, here (above) is the original public space (where the new one is going to be) as it appeared on the cover of the DDDA’s 2003 Draft Master Plan (view looking east – you can see Millenium Tower through the jets of water). But, went down there during the week to see it again only to discover it’s already been demolished!! (below – view looking west). Very clever DDDA – demolish the existing one before releasing plans for the new one 😉 .
It was quite a nice job too. I walked through it once. It had a nice polished stone wall on the north (south-facing) edge, with seating below – would’ve been a suntrap.
Stll, we shouldn’t begrudge because the new one looks good, if a little fussy in the overhead views.
A few pics from this afternoon (saturday). Though it looks like the pole is disappearing out of the top of the first pic, it actually stops right at that point- look closely. Reminds me- must get a haircut.
Definitely red rather than pink – how hard wearing is it?
Hugh? Do you know how well the blue carpet in Newcastle wore?
Seems pretty hard wearing, and certainly not much softer than your standard concrete or stone paving slab- it seems to be a combination of red stones (old glass?) and small grit/gravel set into a red concrete mix, giving a slightly two-tone look. The light grey blotches on the surface at the edges (lower right pic) are probably just from the cutting of the existing slabs with a circular saw to insert the red ones. But it does raise the issue of how much the red material would show up stains.
But yes, red not pink. Shame- I liked my joke.:(Dont forget that its still a building site down at GCD hence all that grime and dirt. Mind you seems wverywhere is like that these days.
so it says in the original article that the ddda found they had more space than expected for this square, hence the redesign. how come?
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