New Liffey Bridge: Marlborough St to Hawkin’s St
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How quickly could this bailey bridge go up?
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Re: New Liffey Bridge: Marlborough St to Hawkin’s St
Postby missarchi » 20 Sep 2008 09:36
How are they going to fund this when they cant even “do a job” on O’Connell st bridge.
Isn’t the bridge being funded by the RPA as part of the Luas BXD line
They should redo Butt bridge instead of this new bridge:
– Bury the dart line or run it over the bridge
– Remove the elevated dart line
– Make Butt bridge as wide as is neededIt wouldn’t be putting the LUAS out a huge amount and would connect it to Tara Street station. Most importantly, it would remove the elevated DART bridge, which should never have been allowed in Dublin in the first place – the only elevated bridge along the liffey.
@Zygnoth wrote:
– Bury the dart line or run it over the bridge
– Remove the elevbated dart lineIs this comment based on some knowledge of the grade required to get the DART down to this level and back up again?
It is based on zero knowledge of grading.
But if we’re going to put cash towards something in the city centre, we might as well try to fix the mistakes made in the past.
@Zygnoth wrote:
It is based on zero knowledge of grading.
But if we’re going to put cash towards something in the city centre, we might as well try to fix the mistakes made in the past.
Well I think the issue of grading would make what you suggest extremely expensive when all it would achieve would be to remove a very attractive cast iron bridge and improve the view along the Liffey, which might be nice, however, it wouldn’t dramatically increase rail capacity across the Liffey, which must be the priority.
The “replace the Loop Line Bridge” item has been talked to death elsewhere on the forum, as has proposed Luas routes across the city. Shouldnt we just focus on the development at hand and making the proposed city Luas crossing as attractive and unobtrusive as possible.
Why should we just focus on the new development – if a new development is flawed, surely that warrants an option that it should not go ahead at all?
Ignoring the loop line proposal, the previous mention of O’Connell street seems like a very good option. Take out the middle island and you only need one more lane…
oooh a crane
It’s not for that poxy bridge, is it?
what’s a crane daddy?
Sits Stephen on knee. “A long time ago, there was a race of giants, they called them developers and they bestrode Dublin like Colossus. As a symbol of their virility, they erected temporary structures all over the city….
Article from January criticising the bridge / http://news-beacon-ireland.info/?p=1780
I see the quay wall is being dismantled and one hopes lessons have been learned from James Joyce Bridge and the removed quay wall stones secured and not left there to be knicked.
On the article…isnt this just another case of the interminable navel gazing that greets these projects. The bridge has been decided and is now under construction. If Luas is built to its decided route then the bridge will make sense. If ABP sees fit and routes Luas down Marlborough Street in both directions then it will make even more sense (oops, am I indulging in interminable navel gazing about the route of Luas). If Luas doesn’t happen then the bridge will be an expensive additional route across the river and a bit of a white elephant, but well find some use for it. Like those empty poles… don’t remove them, just add more signage. Is brea liom Ath Cliath! (for the week that’s in it)
Well that’s just it. The bridge reeks of ‘do something cos it’s better than doing nothing’. It’s better than navel gazing. So many projects bit the dust we’d better do something. But it’s the wrong project. The Luas link may never be built. The bridge is now unsustainable. It’s a new bridge in an area where there’s going to be little or no traffic in the future. High price to pay for a few extra bus turns.
The contractors involved – Roughan O’Donovan Engineers, Sean Harrington Architects etc. – all need the work, no doubt. But it will be an embarrassing project to have your name to IMO.
Sections of the quay walls on both sides have now been removed while the Boardwalk section have also been removed. Works seeming to be progressing.
Will this project provide any benefits to the public realm along Eden and Burgh Quays? New quayside lighting? Painted flagpoles (better still removed flagpoles), tree planting? Most car parking removed to facilitate works. It has also meant that the usual wall of buses along Eden Quay has been removed…permanently one hopes.
I observed a team taking apart and removing the Sheehan Monument at the junction with Burgh Quay/Hawkins Street this morning. I am not sure what is planned for the monument which as noted was placed at this location for a reason. However the increase in buses turning onto Hawkins Street was posing a big risk to the monument and it seems only a matter of time before it is damaged. I presume the statue is being removed as part of the bridge construction.
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