New Liffey Bridge: Marlborough St to Hawkin’s St

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  • #797385
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    i believe St Anne’s on Dawson St is campaigning against having the Luas on Dawson St & is proposing that it should run down Merrion Square instead. The tinkling of the Luas would interfere with the church music.
    Anyway, as to bridges, why don’t they just pave over the Liffey – that damn river is just in the way!

    #797386
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    lol, Mussolini toyed with that idea for Venice. Not that I’d advocate emulating IL DUCE but he did get the trains to run on time, whereas we can’t even get the bloody rails built.
    This bridge is going to be colossal and absurdly close to O’Connell Bridge. It seems the only NIMBYs with clout are in Dublin 4. Could they not just widen Butt bridge and the Matt Talbot bridge or something?

    #797387
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    @JuliusCaesar wrote:

    i believe St Anne’s on Dawson St is campaigning against having the Luas on Dawson St & is proposing that it should run down Merrion Square instead. The tinkling of the Luas would interfere with the church music.
    Anyway, as to bridges, why don’t they just pave over the Liffey – that damn river is just in the way!

    So St Annes wants to send the sardine tins on a magical mystery tour of Dublin………a better idea would be to relocate their tedious madrigals to Helmand provence where they could concentrate on other things.

    #797388
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    @JuliusCaesar wrote:

    i believe St Anne’s on Dawson St is campaigning against having the Luas on Dawson St & is proposing that it should run down Merrion Square instead. The tinkling of the Luas would interfere with the church music.

    Stupid fuckers – all those 46a buses are so quiet compared to the Luas – NIMBY-ism at its worst

    #797389
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    I think they’re most concerned about having the road outside the entrance to their church being dug up for months upon months. It’s not an insane concern, seeing as Dawson St is now one of the few roads from Donnybrook direction that leads to College Green…via the bottleknecks around Trinity,,
    Actually, what sort of nonsense city centre do we have? There’s not one bloody wide street, apart from the two big Georgian Squares!

    #797390
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    Hmmm – wider streets is a problem but we are stuck with a city that was never laid out to accommodate huge volumes of traffic, just like most European cities.

    There were radical plans in the 1970s and 1980s to “redesign” the city to accommodate the motor car, which involved demolishing whole streets of buildings to widen them thereby creating beautiful broad vistas of empty lots and surface carparking. :rolleyes:

    What is needed is traffic tunnels from north to south under the Liffey and rethink of all those bus route that just have to go up O’Connell Street

    #797391
    Anonymous
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    Ljubljana 3 bridges the problem for DCC is they all look the same : )

    #797392
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    New design of the luas liffey bridge. The sooner the better they demolish hawkins house!!!!! What an eyesore!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

    #797393
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    Have your say about the Marlborough Street Bridge

    http://www.dublincity.ie/RoadsandTraffic/MajorTransportProjects/Pages/MarlboroughStreetPublic.aspx

    Dublin City Council is planning to build a new bridge over the River Liffey in Dublin City Centre, just downstream of O’Connell Bridge. Plans and particulars of the proposed project will be on display at the offices of Dublin City Council, The Atrium, Block 4, Civic Offices, Wood Quay Dublin 8 Monday to Friday between 9.00am and 4.30pm from Thursday 18th September until Wednesday 1st October 2008. An information evening will held at the same location on Thursday 18th September 2008 between 4pm and 8pm. Staff from Dublin City Council and its consultants will be in attendance at this time to answer queries from the public.

    #797394
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    glad to see there’s some kind of planning progress being made on line BX

    #797395
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    If all the buses coming down O’Connell St make a left-hand turn onto Eden Quay, then you can forget about trying to move east along the quays. There’ll be a continuous yellow bottleneck, as far as the eye can see.

    #797396
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    This is just a desperate sticking plaster attempt to assist mobility in the city centre; it’s unnecessary. A complete rethink and reorganisation of the bus routing would be far more effective

    #797397
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    Why not ban all cars from coming into Dublin they do that in Oxford pedestrianize the lot free up some space from the overpriced car parks just my tuppence worth

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    #797399
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    too logical, it doesn’t stand a chance.

    #797400
    Anonymous
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    Good golly missarechi, are you actually proposing that bus and luas could use the same road space? 😮

    As johnglas says, far too logical – it’ll never happen…

    #797401
    Anonymous
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    It’s a laudible idea but I think it’s anything but logical. There is too much traffic allowed go over O’Connell Bridge for this to work on any level. There are currently four traffic lanes in which both cars and buses are allowed [regularly completely full] and under this proposal, it would be cut to two.
    As long as DCC continue to use O’Connell Bridge as one of the city’s main access/exit points, this proposition is unworkable.
    Not suggesting the new bridge makes sense either but it’s not as simple as all this.

    #797402
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    it is logical….

    one half storey bus line and/or one luas line one route… the average speed would go up… why? because you don’t have cars and the great wall of buses blocking your path…

    you need to eliminate right hand turns left hand turns in some shape or form…
    I mean the average speed has been stated at 5.5km/hr whats the point as has been pointed out it was quicker for me to jog from central bank to the top end in peak hr… than catch a bus I missed…
    and I even had time to get change…

    even if traffic gets slower does anyone really care??? I can walk faster

    metro north if it ever happens will open up even more potential and become a spinal cord if the fare is right and tickets are valid for 2 hrs…

    #797403
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    Metro North/Luas BX/etc does little or nothing for the people who either need cars for work or don’t have access to a decent public transport network.
    It is one thing talking about congestion charging, closing the city centre off when a public transport network is in place, as it is in somewhere like London/Paris/even New York.
    But punishing motorists for the failures of government is wrong-headed, particularly for some notion of a vague improvement in the public environment.
    Without wanting to sound like AA Roadwatch, the majority of Dubliners would prefer O’Connell Bridge to remain open to traffic than having to do a 15-minute detour via St Patrick’s Cathedral or Butt Bridge.

    #797404
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    @missarchi wrote:

    http://www.dublincity.ie/your_council/councillors/

    YOU CAN NOW WATCH THE DESTRUCTION OF DUBLIN LIVE

    http://www.dublincity.public-i.tv/site/:confused:

    If any one whats to use any of the images you can…

    ( I think the BX could stop just before Nassau street )
    ( I also think the luas going in front of trinity college is bad so it should start again in westmoreland st or dolier)
    ( But for this to work any metro ticket/luas ticket should include 3 extra stops free so you can jump rather than have to by two tickets)
    ( free city circle luas in Dublin what are the odds of that ? )

    I have a question about this- Why is there a big road running through hawkins house, is there any plan for this or is it a mistake?

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