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  • #809382
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    foremanjoe wrote:
    The point I’ve been banging on about is that the tower is so tall that’ll it’ll be visible from all over Dublin and beyond, meaning that many people will have no other option than to pay attention to it.

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    Peasants: We have found a witch! (A witch! a witch!)
    Burn her burn her!

    Peasant 1: We have found a witch, may we burn her?
    (cheers)
    Vladimir: How do you known she is a witch?
    P2: She looks like one!
    V: Bring her forward
    (advance)
    Woman: I’m not a witch! I’m not a witch!
    V: ehh… but you are dressed like one.
    W: They dressed me up like this!
    All: naah no we didn’t… no.
    W: And this isn’t my nose, it’s a false one.
    (V lifts up carrot)
    V: Well?
    P1: Well we did do the nose
    V: The nose?
    P1: …And the hat, but she is a witch!
    (all: yeah, burn her burn her!)
    V: Did you dress her up like this?
    P1: No! (no no… no) Yes. (yes yeah) a bit (a bit bit a bit) But she has got a wart!
    (P3 points at wart)
    V: What makes you think she is a witch?
    P2: Well, she turned me into a newt!
    V: A newt?!
    (P2 pause & look around)
    P2: I got better.
    (pause)
    P3: Burn her anyway! (burn her burn her burn!)
    (king walks in)
    V: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
    P1: Are there? Well then tell us! (tell us)
    V: Tell me… what do you do with witches?
    P3: Burn’em! Burn them up! (burn burn burn)
    V: What do you burn apart from witches?
    P1: More witches! (P2 nudge P1)

    etc etc

    #809383
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    That’s great lads, I’ve been denounced as a small-thinking, witch-burning, typically Oirish, bog-standard philistine wally.

    I admire all of your blind faith in the DAA, or perhaps it’s in STW?

    I’m sure anyone that has passed through Dublin airport regularly over the past 20 years or more would also question how well the DAA think things through and plans ahead. Or perhaps it takes that long to build an international airport, who am I to say?

    And the connection for Shannon airport that I was referring to was simply a rail link, perhaps off the Limerick-Ennis line which runs a few miles away. Currently the only airport in the country with a rail link is Farranfore in Kerry!

    #809384
    Anonymous
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    That thing looks like an oversized olympic torch form the 80’s.

    Truly awful.

    #809385
    Anonymous
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    it is pretty awful looking

    #809386
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    here it is by the way… meh, it’s an airport control tower. What do you want? Does anyone have any links to more attractive airport control towers? any architectural gems around the world’s airports.

    The argument re height is actually quite incredulous really. I mean it’s in the middle of a massive bloody airport miles from any houses etc. with as close to zero impact on anyone. I can’t see the ESB towers from Ringsend village or Sandymount village at street level. So how in the name of all that is holy will anyone be able to see this from O Connell Street. But jaysus some might be able to see it from north facing upper floors!!!! Dear God think of the children…..

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    #809388
    Anonymous
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    and here is STW’s previous attempt at a control tower in ireland, the new cork airport control tower

    i think it is tall enough to see all the airfield!

    #809389
    Anonymous
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    posted in error

    #809390
    Anonymous
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    St Anne’s Tower competition entry by these guys.

    http://www.hhmck.com/

    Its not an airport control tower, but as far as phallic objects go, it’s quiet attractive….

    #809391
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    @foremanjoe wrote:

    That’s great lads, I’ve been denounced as a small-thinking, witch-burning, typically Oirish, bog-standard philistine wally.

    I admire all of your blind faith in the DAA, or perhaps it’s in STW?

    I’m sure anyone that has passed through Dublin airport regularly over the past 20 years or more would also question how well the DAA think things through and plans ahead. Or perhaps it takes that long to build an international airport, who am I to say?

    And the connection for Shannon airport that I was referring to was simply a rail link, perhaps off the Limerick-Ennis line which runs a few miles away. Currently the only airport in the country with a rail link is Farranfore in Kerry!

    you forgot cannibal

    #809392
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    They can look good. The Stansted one looks good I think – the green glass with the grey concrete.

    #809393
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    The only airport control tower in the world i would mention is Vienna International, it’s 109metres tall by the way…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CtrlTwrVIA.JPG

    #809394
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    I do hope they leave the little one standing as a kind of ironic abstraction of the big Mary little Mary shrines you find in villages down the country. Is their relative position enough to have them represent big Mary little Mary or would other decoration be required? Certainly no other decoration is required for this building, along with its context, to express the idea “airport control tower”, which makes is kind of perfect to my thinking.

    I know little Mary isn’t really Mary but I can’t remember who she is since I don’t dig with that foot.

    #809395
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    Keen, the Vienna tower is worth mentioning in what context? I hope you were being ironic. Hideous.

    #809396
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    Seriously now lads. Big tall things look like dicks. “Hwhehehwhwh”. The obsession with making “phallic” references is unreal. Maybe once or twice, but its boring now, even if a more polite word for cock is used.

    :confused:

    #809397
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    @foremanjoe wrote:

    Ah come on rumpelstiltskin, wake up! ๐Ÿ˜€

    The point I’ve been banging on about is that the tower is so tall that’ll it’ll be visible from all over Dublin and beyond, meaning that many people will have no other option than to pay attention to it.

    As for the design debate, I thinks it’s a bit paradoxical to create a tower that is this tall and will stand out so much, and then make it minimalist?

    Is it too much to ask for something a little more daring?

    It’s going to be so hard to nickname this tower otherwise…

    Jesus christ man its not that tall! I mean you cant even see liberty hall from some parts of Dublin city how the hell do you think were gonna see this??

    And its not as if its more office blocks and unneeded, its actualy got a function like tall masts and the like. And tbh i find it extremely bland, but if it does the job, who really cares? who the hell are we trying to impressive? i doubt tourists are gonna turn and run back home from the site of it ๐Ÿ˜€

    #809398
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    Alright, alright, so it’s not that tall. I may have exaggerated to express my point. I respectfully withdraw those arguments, even if little respect was shown towards me for expressing my opinion.

    I stick by my original opinions on the bland and uninspiring nature of the structure though.
    I can’t understand the argument that it’s simply a ‘functionalist’ building and it shouldn’t matter how it’s designed because of this.

    I mean isn’t every building by its very essence functionalist?
    A canopy for a Paris Metro station entrance, that’s a pretty functionalist brief right?
    Put-a-cover-over-the-steps-to-the-underground.
    But they’re beautiful, aren’t they? They didn’t have to be, but someone decided they could be.

    Everything that we build as human beings has the potential to be unique and beautiful, I feel that to deny this potential is to deny our very humanity.

    #809399
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    @rob mc wrote:

    And tbh i find it extremely bland, but if it does the job, who really cares? ๐Ÿ˜€

    So whats the point in building anything imaginative ?
    Every building has its “job”.
    A bland design should not have anything to do with the function of any structure.
    Especially one of this scale.

    Granted, I don’t care what goes on inside the place as long as the plane I’m in doesn’t come a sudden end. But I and millions of others every year will be subjected to the sight of it. Surely something more attractive than an oversized iron curtain watchtower is preferable.

    And given its location at the busiest point of entry (and departure) on this island, I believe there is an opportunity for a new control tower to give visitors a positive first impression upon arrival. And indeed, a positive last glance of Irish architecture on departure.

    IMO the proposed building does neither.

    #809400
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    @Global Citizen wrote:

    So whats the point in building anything imaginative ?
    Every building has its “job”.
    A bland design should not have anything to do with the function of any structure.
    Especially one of this scale.

    Granted, I don’t care what goes on inside the place as long as the plane I’m in doesn’t come a sudden end. But I and millions of others every year will be subjected to the sight of it. Surely something more attractive than an oversized iron curtain watchtower is preferable.

    And given its location at the busiest point of entry (and departure) on this island, I believe there is an opportunity for a new control tower to give visitors a positive first impression upon arrival. And indeed, a positive last glance of Irish architecture on departure.

    IMO the proposed building does neither.

    I agree with you totaly its a very unattractive piece of architecture. And maybe i should have explained myself better, i didnt mean that all buildings should be built thinking of functionality and that the look of the building didnt matter i just meant it in this particular case, it being a watchtower an all. Maybe its just what iv come to expect in Ireland, and im not big on the whole “only in Ireland” cliche but that might just be it. Me expectations seem to be slipping every year.

    #809401
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    All valid, but I think the problem with this proposal is not lack of design, its aesthetic is not simply a compolation of the necessary parts; those tapered louvres were, to someone’s mind, aesthetically pleasing, the green glass, cool. This is one which “design” should have left well enough alone. Utter rubbish.

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