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  • #761919
    Sulmac
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    Seems the Docklands plan is starting to get moving now:

    http://www.galwaynews.ie/2092-first-glimpse-dockland-project

    Also, some idea to move the city airport:

    http://www.galwaynews.ie/2088-moving-city-airport-be-examined

    #761920
    THE_Chris
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    biggest ever regeneration plan in the West of Ireland, which will also be the biggest every tourism project in the country.

    Who proofread that??

    Moving the airport is a ridiculous idea. Its in a good location, it just has rubbish transport links. A reasonably regular bus service there would be fine, or integrate it with any future Luas style plan. Its getting a junction nearby on the new N6, what the hell is the point of moving it??

    #761921
    galwayrush
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    @THE_Chris wrote:

    Who proofread that??

    Moving the airport is a ridiculous idea. Its in a good location, it just has rubbish transport links. A reasonably regular bus service there would be fine, or integrate it with any future Luas style plan. Its getting a junction nearby on the new N6, what the hell is the point of moving it??

    Agree, there is a small road at the end of the existing runway, sort that problem out, and then it can be extended.plenty of land available.

    #761922
    galwayrush
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    @Sulmac wrote:

    Seems the Docklands plan is starting to get moving now:

    http://www.galwaynews.ie/2092-first-glimpse-dockland-project

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    Conference centre, some quite tall buildings, massive docklands, looks amazing, can’t wait to see the plans of the final draft.I think the completion date of 2010 is ambitious, considering the usual regular objectors are already lining up.

    #761923
    Sulmac
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    @galwayrush wrote:

    Conference centre, some quite tall buildings, massive docklands, looks amazing, can’t wait to see the plans of the final draft.I think the completion date of 2010 is ambitious, considering the usual regular objectors are already lining up.

    Hopefully they’ll integrate it with the Ceannt Station development, creating a huge new city quarter.

    Also, noticed this as well:

    http://www.galwayindependent.com/local-news/local-news/galway-%27luas%27-gets-green-light-from-transport-minister-/

    Wonder if Dempsey’s being serious or just saying whatever it takes to make the Wesht happy? :rolleyes:

    #761924
    THE_Chris
    Participant

    The Green Party councillor said he was hopeful that the project would go ahead and said that if all went to plan, the new Luas could be up and running by 2012.

    Some hope.

    Would be nice to see in 5 years time, but in the short term a couple of million (short change almost) thrown into the bus services in Galway (and Cork) would be nice.

    #761925
    galwayrush
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    @Sulmac wrote:

    Hopefully they’ll integrate it with the Ceannt Station development, creating a huge new city quarter.

    Also, noticed this as well:

    http://www.galwayindependent.com/local-news/local-news/galway-%27luas%27-gets-green-light-from-transport-minister-/

    Wonder if Dempsey’s being serious or just saying whatever it takes to make the Wesht happy? :rolleyes:

    Yes, the entire plan for the area includes the Ceannt Station area along with more land at the Docks, totalling 114 acres, it’s proposed to build a new modern city centre ” towards the sea”

    #761926
    THE_Chris
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    Its a good idea, but surprisingly little of the current CIE area will be used for Public Transport, which is stupid.

    #761927
    galwayrush
    Participant

    @THE_Chris wrote:

    Its a good idea, but surprisingly little of the current CIE area will be used for Public Transport, which is stupid.

    There are 3 Train Platforms in the plan, more than enough for Galway, as any Trains that may go north or south to Limerick and Cork will all change at Athenry. Even if a Light Rail was built, 3 Platforms are easily enough for at least 12 destinations.

    #761928
    Sulmac
    Participant

    Front page of Galway First today is about a few planned developments in Galway City and County:

    http://editions.pagesuite.co.uk//PageSuite3.aspx?page=1&scale=100&height=700&width=1000&editionid=43531&filekey=&path=_PSEDitions/Galway%20Advertiser/Galway%20First/2007-12-17/

    – Riverside concert hall / conference centre, capacity 2,500.
    – 4000sqm “urban centre” in Ardaun, with 1.85km bus/bike corridor.
    – 21km upgrade of the Galway/Athenry rail line.

    Same story also found here: http://www.galwaynews.ie/2247-270-million-sought-fund-ambitious-gateway-projects

    And also, the N17 [or M17] Galway-Tuam upgrade:

    http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/RoadsTransportation/RoadProjects/m17/

    “I wish I was on that M17….” πŸ˜‰

    #761929
    THE_Chris
    Participant

    At least part of it HAS to be M, as it will lead inescapably to the M6. That part of the M6 will probobly be M, as its being financed by a private company and M looks better than N, just like the Fermoy bypass.

    #761930
    Sulmac
    Participant

    Found some information on the Docklands presentation last Tuesday:

    http://www.galwayindependent.com/local-news/local-news/forum-reiterates-need-for-docks-integration/

    😎

    edit:
    The council are going to develop a “cultural hub” around the Lower Merchants Road area, already purchasing buildings for it!

    http://www.galwaycity.ie/TopNews/MainBody,4367,en.html

    #761931
    THE_Chris
    Participant

    Its fantastic news actually that its M17 and not N17. πŸ˜€

    #761932
    vkid
    Participant

    @BTH wrote:

    I don’t know about the practicalities of the place but in my opinion it has to qualify as possibly the ugliest, most unwelcoming developments of it’s type that I’ve ever seen. A collection of bog standard silver boxes would be more visually pleasing than what we’ve ended up with. And the worst thing is that it’s obvious a huge amount of design, fine detailing and expense has been gone to to make it. I really think the black stained timber was a huge mistake and the signage is perhaps the tackiest i’ve ever seen – the huge yellow BRIARHILL is truly vile – even the typeface is awful.
    Anyway rant over – I do appreciate that a lot of architectural thought and effort has gone into the building but the end result to my eyes is a bit of a disaster…

    Actually got to see this devlopment the other day and would agree with all of the above. It is pretty hideous in fairness.

    #761933
    Sulmac
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    #761934
    Derrick Galway
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    All references to developments at Galway’s Docks and at Ceannt Station, look like they are on hold pending a decision from ABP on the enlargement of new bus mainatenance garage at the Harbour Enterprise Park. This would have been the first stage in the development of Ceannt Station. But this is now unlikely, because of an exclusion zone around the new oil terminal currently under construction.

    The Buncefield explosion in the UK has put any development at the City Docks, and, Ceannt Station on hold until the publication of the final Buncefield Report. Probably summer this year.

    Also. Despite looking for a Framework Plan/Masterplan for this area for years, still none in place. Also no City Architect. Therefore, any coordinated city development unlikely. Just ad-hoc development as before, and still no transport infrastructure.

    What more can we expect.

    #761935
    Sulmac
    Participant

    You’d think they’d have the cop on to move those oil tankers… :rolleyes:

    Anywho, did anyone see the proposal for the Γ’β€šΒ¬300mn concert hall?

    Found a good link on the City Council’s website:

    http://www.galwaycity.ie/AllServices/CommunityEnterprise/Publications/FileEnglish,4505,en.pdf

    http://www.galwaycity.ie/GeneralNews/MainBody,4231,en.html

    Very ambitious proposal, I think…. lets hope they get the funding. πŸ˜‰

    The bit that made me laugh, though, was that they hoped for it to be finished by 2010! They forget that this is Ireland, obviously. :p

    The other two projects are also needed, especially the double-tracking of the railway for commuter services.

    http://www.galwaynews.ie/node/2907

    The new “cultural quarter” seems to be getting along smoothly too. 😎

    #761936
    BTH
    Participant

    Who’s bright idea was it to get Anthony Reddy’s to do the concert hall design design…. It’s an absolute and utter shocker – just what Galway dosen’t need – something fussy, flashy and “Iconic” parachuted in. This beautiful site needs something more subtle and controlled – the location is spectacular enough. If this ambitious scheme (which is badly badly needed for the city) is to go ahead then an international design competition would have to be a part of it – and hopefully someone who has some sort of understading and feeling for the city will actually win it…

    The other two schemes are also needed badly, but they will happen eventually as the city develops. Ardaun is a great opportunity and double lines as far as Athenry are going to be absolutely essential – especially when the western rail corridor eventually opens up. i just hope that Galway gets the funding for the concert hall as it’s definitely fallen well behind other parts of the country in terms of facilities. With a proper concert hall, an art gallery, art house cinema and a new theatre and venue to replace the pleasant but rather inadequate Town Hall, Galway could really sell itself as a cultural destination all year round, not just during festival time. Thankfully there finally seems to be a move on to actually provide this arts infrastructure that is so badly needed.

    #761937
    BTH
    Participant

    Heres a few images of the concert hall proposal – I realize that they were probably fairly rushed (as these feasability/proposal things tend to be). I just personally think the design approach is all wrong for the site… Having the main entrance and foyers tucked in towards the cathedral is only one mistake I could identify. The main approach from the city needs to be along the river. Anyway, see what you think…




    #761938
    BTH
    Participant

    At last, the possibility of a genuinely exciting building for Galway. Fair play to the City council – Here’s their proposal for a new arthouse cinema close to the City Museum. Designed by Tom dePaor, the scheme is currently on public display in City Hall. Personally I think it’s a beauty. Exactly what I meant above when I was talking about architects havein a feel for a place. The “tower house” idiom works so well in this context and the interiors, with all those cascading staircases, would be fantastically exciting…. Sorry images are a bit huge!

    The top floor auditorium looks particularly fantastic. I have one misgiving – and it’s the location. Right on the edge of the busiest through road in Galway City. If they really want this area to become a vibrant cultural quarter as the council are pushing, this road will need to be severely calmed and a good landscaping scheme put in place. At the moment cars either whizz past here at high speed or sit stuck in interminable traffic jams. Not really the most pleasant or relaxing environment to go for a cultural experience… Still, loving the design. Looks like dePaor is finally breaking through to the bigger stage…

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