New Aer Lingus HQ
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- October 10, 2005 at 1:02 pm #708169
lexington
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Proposed redeveloped Aer Lingus HQ at Dublin Airport.
Design by Henry J. Lyons & Partners.Incorproating 162,000 sq. m. development with 3,850 car parking spaces, comprising retail, offices and hotels. Currently at design stage. Valued at approx. €500 million.
Note the final image incorporates the proposed Metro with a new underground station.
October 10, 2005 at 1:08 pm #762388Anonymous
Inactivei wonder will people object to the height of it? i like it. 🙂
October 10, 2005 at 1:22 pm #762389Anonymous
InactiveFantastic – now that would contribute to people’s initial expectations of what one of the ‘richest/wealthiest’ countires in Europe should look like.
October 10, 2005 at 1:47 pm #762390Anonymous
InactiveI notice the nice little underground metro line on the left hand side of the elevation. Does this mean that the above proposal is a) mythological; b) a joke; c) a suggestion that the building will be constructed in 3007.
October 10, 2005 at 2:16 pm #762391GregF
ParticipantThey look good ….nice renderings too……….pie in the sky however
October 10, 2005 at 2:26 pm #762392aj
Participantat last a building worthy of a wealthy nation… what is the betting however the building will be half that height if its ever built!!!
October 10, 2005 at 2:46 pm #762393Anonymous
Inactivei guess the height will be ok as you have tall buildings in that area anyway (ballymun) plus the fact that people’s houses are well away from it. the proposal looks really well. i hope they don’t alter it. i don’t like the current aer lingus building. it reminds me of hawkins house.
October 10, 2005 at 5:09 pm #762394Richards
ParticipantDoes this fit in with the idea of Aer Lingus being a budget airline? Airlines need to focus on the idea of flying people around efficiently not building nice head offices.
October 10, 2005 at 5:22 pm #762395pier39
Participant@Richards wrote:
Does this fit in with the idea of Aer Lingus being a budget airline? Airlines need to focus on the idea of flying people around efficiently not building nice head offices.
their hq is only a part element of the overall project. the proposal is much more about maximising the value of their leased land at dublin airport rather than a swanky new office. there is office space for let, hotel, retail, leisure and parking elements all design to provide strategic returns for aer lingus on lands that are currently falling well below the development and investment potential.
October 10, 2005 at 6:14 pm #762396bigjoe
Participantlol at the metro link.
local window cleaner will be kept well busy.
October 10, 2005 at 7:11 pm #762397Anonymous
Inactive@Richards wrote:
Does this fit in with the idea of Aer Lingus being a budget airline? Airlines need to focus on the idea of flying people around efficiently not building nice head offices.
What’s wrong with wanting nice new offices? It is the 21st century after all. Everything is being done up these days throughout Ireland. Why not have plush airport buildings too?
October 10, 2005 at 7:16 pm #762398Anonymous
Inactivenow if only the new terminal building looked liked that. that round building looks rather cool. i presume the pictures above are completely separate to terminal 2.
October 10, 2005 at 7:29 pm #762399murphaph
ParticipantI think that building is included in the airport development plan on the DAA website.
October 10, 2005 at 7:39 pm #762400Anonymous
Inactiveif it is on the daa website i can’t find it. i see that it mentions the new terminal building though.
October 10, 2005 at 8:04 pm #762401murphaph
ParticipantOctober 11, 2005 at 1:27 am #762402d_d_dallas
Participantwow! if only sandyford, citiwest etc had more of this. love the metro addition – kinda like those ‘off the plan’ apartment brochures filled with exciting local “proposed” amenities that are never in any danger of materialising.
October 11, 2005 at 5:53 am #762403dowlingm
ParticipantRichards
exactly. Aer Lingus should only have operationally necessary functions at Dublin Airport with any other functions transferred to Cork/Shannon or off airport lands completely.
With all the destruction Willie Walsh brought on the Aer Lingus brand, he at least sold the paintings on the HQ wall which was a sign of all that was obviously wrong with the old company.
October 11, 2005 at 11:02 am #762404Anonymous
InactiveI cannot see this being built, not because of the Metro but because of the probable sale of AL. Why invest in a building like that when you are selling the company? They need a small office that is almost empty, not a giant HQ. You plan a project like this to distract your staff and lull them into a false sense of job security (big building = lotsa jobs) before giving them their marching orders. Get them to worry about what the seagulls might do to the glass and forget the bigger picture. Pier 39 above said fill it with profitable shops, hotels, etc, Why should the taxpayer fund a retail development for what is supposed to be an airline business? Anyway, that will probably be found to be in contravention of the company’s charter as an airline and DAA would prevent it!
Dowling / Richards I do not agree with many of your points. Willie W did not bring any destruction to the Aer Lingus “brand.†The earlier management did that for him by allowing the unions run the business. I lived abroad for years and flew to Dublin several times a year. Price + arrogance = Aer Lingus management. Even today it is impossible to find their cheapest offers. Problem 1 is that “hostessing†is a menial job and not the snobbish sexy well-paid one it was made out to be in pre-Celtic Tiger Ireland. Problem 2 is that A.L. staff have neither realised nor been convinced of this.
Flew Ryanair to Birmingham last week, all bar one (pilot) has foreign names. Was just over a day in the ST carpark, cost me more than my ticket & taxes. (Yeah, I know, that’s DAA not AL.)
Dziekuje, do zobaczenia
KerryBog
PS did you know that there is no Customer Service department at AL?October 11, 2005 at 1:07 pm #762405Anonymous
InactiveEven if AL goes, some other company will take over the market gap and might be quite happy to take over such a building also. Of course, this may very well be some business ploy on AL’s behalf, but regardless of whether it is built or not (and it would be a shame if it was not), it highlights the architectural potential and creative imagination that underpins it. If it isn’t built in Dublin Airport, stick it in the Docklands as a conference centre – it is a beautiful building and deserves to be brought to life.
October 11, 2005 at 2:21 pm #762406Anonymous
InactivePDLL I agree that it is a very nice building and I would like to see it built. Nice to see the workers will have their own metro station, no need to mix with the hoi polloi. (La Defense in Paris has just 2 stations for several hundred thousand workers) However, why should the taxpayer build a stunning HQ for a company that is a white elephant? AL should be sold (or even given away before it is too late) and if it or the new owners have the funds let them build it. As for your comment “stick it in the Docklands as a conference centre†– well, I think you have put your finger on what is wrong with Irish architecture.
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