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  • #777177
    ctesiphon
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    @gunter wrote:

    Are journalists in the dog house too? . . . I thought it was just bankers!

    I’ve nothing against journalists! Of those I know, one has a good handle on the planning and development game (;)) and the other two ride bikes, so they’re all alright by me.

    If you want to see a conflicted ctesiphon, put a banker on a bike.

    #777178
    newgrange
    Participant

    Plan No.: 2129/09
    LOCATION: 1, Newcomen Avenue, Dublin 3
    Retention of 2no. scrolling advertising structures

    RETENTION PERMISSION REFUSED

    Condition(s) and reason(s) FOR condition(s)
    1. Having regard to the location and residential zoning of the site and to Development Plan policies to promote the development of underutilised infill sites it is considered that the retention of the advertising structures would not make full use of the development potential of the site and would, therefore be contrary to the proper planning and sustainable development of the area.

    2. Having regard to the specitic standards and guidelines set out in the Development Plan to be applied to Outdoor Advertising and to the scale and prominence of the forty-eight sheet panels it is considered that the proposed development would be contrary to the guidelines, would seriously injure the visual amenities of the area and of property in the vicinity and would, therefore, be contrary to the proper planning and sustainable development of the area.

    Date of decision: March 18th, 2009.
    Appeals to be submitted within four weeks.

    JC Decaux have another application in for this site 2224/09 which involves some ‘Metropoles’.

    #777179
    newgrange
    Participant

    @newgrange wrote:

    JC Decaux have another application in for this site 2224/09 which involves some ‘Metropoles’.

    This has been granted permission with the following condition regarding the ‘metropoles’.

    2. One of the proposed Metropole advertising structures shall be omitted from the development, the details of which shall be agreed in writing with the Planning Authority. Prior to the commencement of any works on site, the applicants shall remove the existing billboards and supporting structures from site and no further billboards / advertising signs are to be erected without as prior grant of planning permission. The erection of the proposed metropole shall be erected after the comprehensive redevelopment of the site. Reason: In the interests of residential amenity and the visual amenities of the area.

    What is wrong with DCC? Answers on a very large postcard please.

    The Metropoles that were appealed to ABP were all rejected and now DCC go ahead and grant permission to stick one closer to the protected structure of Newcomen bridge than the one that was rejected across the road.

    I suppose another €230 will have to be forked out to get ABP to (presumably) reject this crap again.

    #777180
    newgrange
    Participant

    I intend appealing this to ABP.
    It makes a mockery of their decision to refuse permission the other side of the road only a short while ago.

    If anyone has any further insights or information they feel might be useful for me to include in the appeal, please PM me.

    #777181
    lostexpectation
    Participant

    Council forced to apply for planning on advertising signs
    http://www.dublinpeople.com/content/view/1809/57/
    DÚN Laoghaire Rathdown County Council has been forced to row back on plans it had to erect up to 80 advertising structures across the county without planning permission.
    But a number of local politicians who pressured the council into the u-turn are still unhappy as officials want to apply for permission to erect the units through a specific procedure that cannot be appealed to An Bord Pleanála.

    n February, councillors voted to accept a deal with outdoor advertising company, Clear Channel Ireland, that would involve the council erecting 60 on-street advertising ‘six sheet’ structures all over the county.
    Under the initial deal the local authority will be paid e10 million over a 10-year period for the sites. But management recently reduced the number of sites to 47.
    Two weeks ago it emerged that the council had also signed a deal with another outdoor advertising firm, JC Decaux, to erect a further 30 large ‘metropole’ advert structures, measuring 16 sq mt, in various locations around the county.
    The local authority has not revealed how much they will receive from the JC Decaux contract.
    The council had originally said it would not have to apply for planning permission for each individual advertising structure as developments under a threshold of e126,000 are deemed to be exempt from requiring planning permission.

    The council has now confirmed that the proposed outdoor advertising contracts with both JC Decaux and Clear Channel will be subject to the planning process, which will involve a Part 8 approval being granted by the council for each of the proposed advertising structures,“ a spokeswoman said.
    Part 8 planning applications are those made by a local authority to councillors for works such as roads and community centres.
    Following consideration of submissions received from the public, the county manager presents a report to councillors for the approval of the scheme.
    Councillors can then decide to accept or reject the proposed development, with or without variations or modifications.
    However, decisions made by local authorities under the process can’t be subsequently appealed to An Bord Pleanála.

    #777182
    jdivision
    Participant

    From the Tribune:
    Advertising company JC Decaux has asked the council to include recognition of the “potential to generate revenue streams from existing facilities which could fund other public-realm enhancement programmes”. The company’s controversial deal with DCC to provide bikes and other facilities in return for advertising is cited as an example of this. “We feel there could be potential scope for further public-realm enhancement schemes which could be self-funded through utilitising existing DCC resources,” wrote Julie Mulleady, business development director at JC Decaux, which also wants the question posed of a potential expansion of the bikes for hire scheme which might be deemed or considered appropriate.

    Dublin City Business Association, however, said that once deals such as the one with JC Decaux are agreed, they are locked off and no longer commercially sensitive so therefore DCC should make them available for public inspection. “The unpopular contract agreed by city officials with advertising firm JC Decaux has done a great deal of damage to the good reputation of the local authority – but in particular, by virtue of the council withholding on releasing the contract after it had been agreed,” it said in its submission.

    It also said the council should be clear when a CPO is being moved or threatened and that councillors should be made aware of this prior, and during the process. “Dublin City Council must avoid being brought into situations where the authority’s reputation can become tarnished by suggestions of unfair deals,” it wrote.

    Finally, Dublin Port said it was a matter of great concern to them that “some council officials have advocated the closure of the port in favour of property development”.

    http://www.tribune.ie/business/news/article/2009/may/31/development-from-the-lobby-up/

    #777183
    newgrange
    Participant

    The latest decision by ABP on the Newcomen bridge structure and the proposed Metropole is due this week.

    #777184
    Smithfield Resi
    Participant

    Any word on Dun L’s deal?

    #777185
    newgrange
    Participant

    Haven’t heard anything on Dun Laoghaire.
    Newcomen bridge decision put back til 15th October.

    #777186
    urbanisto
    Participant

    More to the point does anyone know of any instances where JC Decaux panels have been taken down in accordance with the original deal. I cant say I have noticed any big changes.

    #777187
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Dublin bicycle scheme launched

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0913/bicycles.html
    Sunday, 13 September 2009 09:16
    Hundreds of bicycles will be available on the streets of Dublin from today.

    The initiative has been organised by Dublin City Council in conjunction with a French advertising giant who will fund the operation in return for advertising space.

    The 450 silver unisex bicycles are being made available for use by the public at 40 locations from the Mater Hospital in the north of the city to Grand Canal Street in the south.

    The scheme is designed to encourage cycling and to help people move around the city streets quickly.

    A short journey lasting a half an hour is free but six hours costs €4.50 and its €2 for every half an hour after that.

    Would be cyclists also need to leave €150 deposit using either a credit card or a bank draft, which will be used if the bike is not returned.

    The scheme is similar to the one that has been operating in Paris, Copenhagen and 16 other cities.

    One must wonder if you had €150 sitting in your bank account why you just wouldn’t buy a cheap bicycle; which leads me to a question does anyone want an alluminium framed 15 speed Trek racing bike with sti gear change and about 5 miles on the clock. I’ll shift it for cash for €149

    #777188
    dc3
    Participant

    Evening Herald is reporting the first Decaux Dublin bike vandalism story – four bikes on “the Northside” have had headlamps removed.

    If only the local authorities here were as speedy as the vandals.

    #777189
    lostexpectation
    Participant

    i think the herald put a challenge out to which ‘scumbag’ could wreck em first.

    #777190
    alonso
    Participant

    @PVC King wrote:

    One must wonder if you had €150 sitting in your bank account why you just wouldn’t buy a cheap bicycle; which leads me to a question does anyone want an alluminium framed 15 speed Trek racing bike with sti gear change and about 5 miles on the clock. I’ll shift it for cash for €149

    You don’t need 150 in your account. You just need a credit card which can be debited by 150 if you keep the bike or lose it

    #777191
    Smithfield Resi
    Participant

    Spoke too soon….

    Last Updated: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:46
    No damage to council bicycles
    IRISH TIMES REPORTERSDublin City Council has confirmed that there were no thefts or vandalism to bicycles used in the Dublinbikes scheme, which started yesterday.

    A spokeswoman for the council said 1,150 bike journeys were made on the first day of the scheme and said there were no reports of damage to the bikes.

    The council has 450 bicycles available from 40 stations blah blah PR spin etc

    #777192
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @alonso wrote:

    You don’t need 150 in your account. You just need a credit card which can be debited by 150 if you keep the bike or lose it

    I stand corrected you simply need an account but nothing comes out; so where did the €150 come from in the press release? It has been standard practice for years for mobile phone operators to debit €1 from your account to ensure the card wasn’t cancelled or in breach of an overdraft limit. Is the deposit €0, €1 or €150; data protection precludes the €150 question unless you request that quantum of funds.

    Also who is right on the thefts INM or IT?

    #777193
    alonso
    Participant

    there is no deposit, just a 10e annual charge. You just need a valid credit card that they can take E150 off if the bike goes missing

    #777194
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    But under data protection they don’t know if there is €150 in there unless they debit the account for that amount!!! And you need to pay for an annual subscription for a project that was sold as free bicycles. I’m lost they have cut the number of bicycles not taken down the agreed number of billboards…. I’m not saying you are wrong on the total charge €10 and JCD not being able to pursue the other €150 but the rte article is clearly misinformed if you are right

    #777195
    alonso
    Participant

    I think the article is badly written. Dunno how the bank draft works but i signed up and have had the tenner taken off my CC but not the 150. I’ll let you know if it does. If you don’t have the 150 then I guess you’re in trouble if they come calling…

    by the way the bikes were not sold as “free”. They were misreported as “free” as far as I know. Did DCC actually use the term “free” in any of their official press releases. I’d be more than interested if they had.

    #777196
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @alonso wrote:

    I think the article is badly written. Dunno how the bank draft works but i signed up and have had the tenner taken off my CC but not the 150. I’ll let you know if it does. If you don’t have the 150 then I guess you’re in trouble if they come calling…

    by the way the bikes were not sold as “free”. They were misreported as “free” as far as I know. Did DCC actually use the term “free” in any of their official press releases. I’d be more than interested if they had.

    You’d want to give away 450 free bikes a day to equal the value of the advertising given away free gratis.

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