New Advertising in Dublin
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@missarchi wrote:
thats a classic you can feel the tension… any advice to a novice!!! bet the board are not ready for this…
does any one know how to save movies from u tubeYou could use this (it’s a bit hit and miss).
http://vixy.net/One thing of course which doesnt get much of chance to “clutter” Dublin’s streets is trees. Pearse St is a good example here. The section between Wwestland Row and Sandwith St to be exact. Five semi mature trees planted a couple of years ago as aprt of general improvments along the street. This morning workers on the Trinity Biosciences development whcih just commenced on site chopped them down to faciliate the development. What a shame and what a waste both of money I(im sure these trees arent cheap) and of time (they must have been about 20 years old). The trees were only in place a short time so they could quite easily have been moved. :mad::mad::mad:
Incidentially as part of the street improvment works nice new lamp stands were installed. The old ones are also still in place. Not much urgency to remove those.
StephenC makes a valid point here.
The felling of such recently transplanted Trees and the duplication of Lamp Standards is surely an integral part of a Managers function…..Now,correct me here if I am wrong,but do we currently have a CITY MANAGER ?If not,then fair enough lets just cut and burn our way through the streetscape,however if we DO then surely the occupant of that position MUST have an input into thoise decisions..?:confused:
It appears to me,yet again,as if everybody`s in-charge but NOBODY is RESPONSIBLE……(Latin translation could surely replace the current Dublin City Motto ?)
on rte 6.1 news aswell, on a blind angle
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0716/6news.htmlthey do look to have extremely sharp edges, not something i’ve noticed before on signs.
as smithfiled points out on his video,wheres the independent safety review?
This was all not just predictable – it was predicted.
Think it’s a mess what the blind have to suffer, than just wait until the first accidents occur. The only question is when – this month, next month or after? Then again, it’s only the fatalities that are likely to be reported – it’s highly likely that accidents (non-fatal) have already occurred, and will have to work their way through the courts before they become a matter of public record… And when the LA is found responsible in derelicting in their duty, will it be officials that will foot the bill, like shite – it’ll be the tax-payer, i.e. you and me 😡
Link to Radio 1 lunch time news:
http://www.rte.ie/news/news1pm/
The RTE Six-One news piece is 38 minutes in, for anyone that’s interested.
I am hearing a lot more as to defects and problems with these, which I am not as of yet in a position to post up here – but I will before too long… In the meantime, Blood on your hands, DCC 😡
And so the circus continues. From today’s Irish Times.
The last line is probably the most telling – “The council would shortly be meeting NCBI and JC Decaux to discuss any concerns in relation to the panels, he [DCC spokesperson] said.” I.e. go away blind people and don’t bother us – we’ll take the flak in the media for a while, sound reasonable, it’ll eventually drop off the headlines and the units will stay.For the record, NCBI were initially contacted by DCC but weren’t too enthusiastic… then didn’t hear anything again until the media hoo-haa during the appeals last Oct.
Sham, sham, sham…
Why has the mandatory safety audit not already been done; how is at “review stage” if assessment is not complete?
Review my hole 😡Dublin City Council to review ad panels over risks to blind
OLIVIA KELLY
DUBLIN CITY council is to review the new advertising panels erected by JC Decaux as part of the city bicycle scheme following reports from the NCBI that the structures are unsafe.The National Council for the Blind of Ireland (NCBI) says the panels, which stand on the public path, are a danger to the visually impaired who risk walking into them or being cut by their sharp edges, because they are unsuitable for people using canes.
NCBI chief executive Des Kenny said the organisation did advise the council in relation to proper finishes for the structures and appropriate placement of the signs during the planning stage, but the advice was not followed in several instances.
“The edges are finished in steel which have not been rounded and if people hit themselves off the edges they will be cut,” Mr Kenny said. “Also, they don’t go right down to the ground so a cane can travel under them before people meet the wall of glass.”
NCBI was calling on the council to order JC Decaux to retro-fit the signs to ensure that they reached the ground and were properly finished, and to ensure that all future signs met these standards.
The council said yesterday that it had already ordered JC Decaux to remove a bus-shelter sized panel on Dorset Street because it obstructed a pedestrian crossing and the views of motorists.
A spokesman for the council said: “We are currently examining whether the signs have been erected at each site in accordance with the conditions attaching to the grant of permission in each case.”
The spokesman added it was in the conditions of the planning permissions granted that the advertising panels would not impede pedestrian movement, road signs, traffic lights, pedestrian sight lines, pedestrian crossings or any other road infrastructure.
“In the event that any of the approved signs have been erected and do not comply with these conditions, JC Decaux will be instructed to take corrective action,” said the spokesman.
The council would shortly be meeting NCBI and JC Decaux to discuss any concerns in relation to the panels, he said.
© 2008 The Irish Times
trees I noticed in the metro or herald one council in the UK does valuations on them one oak tree got a valuation of around 600, 000 euro… I would be curious about the green and other spots yes you can cut down this tree but it will cost you 1 million euro and you will have to find replacement as well…
I saw some of these yokes on Parnell St last night.
I must say, they do a fantastic job – of blocking the view of the various traffic lights to road users.
A spokesman for the council said: “We are currently examining whether the signs have been erected at each site in accordance with the conditions attaching to the grant of permission in each case.”
The spokesman added it was in the conditions of the planning permissions granted that the advertising panels would not impede pedestrian movement, road signs, traffic lights, pedestrian sight lines, pedestrian crossings or any other road infrastructure.
“In the event that any of the approved signs have been erected and do not comply with these conditions, JC Decaux will be instructed to take corrective action,” said the spokesman.
I think it is rich of DCC to say that the conditions of the planning application are that they would not impede
pedestrian movement road signs traffic lights pedestrian sight lines… Any structure placed on a pavement will impede pedestrian movement especially if it is 1.48m wide and 2.5m high.They approved the location initally and there is only a reduction in the number after the appeal.
This entire scenario is fast becoming a quagmire for DCC.
The handling of the initial contract negotiations was bad enough but as sure as night follows day when a civic body embarks upon secret deals then they WILL be caught out,thankfully in this case it was still dark.
For a City authority which prides itself on employing the brightest and best young professionals DCC has suddenly appeared as a stumbling grasping body who are`nt even aware of the basic bye-laws or conventions governing the City they purport to “manage”.
Its also quite a feat on the part of JCD in that they appear to have escaped any of the questioning whilst DCC flail around trying to make base metal into gold…:D
Mind you,a brace of senior resignations would do a great deal to clear the air !!
@missarchi wrote:
any one know how to save movies from u tube
Install Real Player (free) and each time you view a You Tube video you will be presented with an option (just above the video window) of dowloading the clip.
Then download the free FLV Player to view the clips on your own computer.
Dublin City Manager’s refusal to conduct an independent Health and Safety Investigation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyYqE6lv2M8&feature=user
Dublin City Council’s treatment of the visually impaired:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azi0NqSKrMA
Sham, sham, sham.
Install Real Player (free) and each time you view a You Tube video you will be presented with an option (just above the video window) of dowloading the clip.
Then download the free FLV Player to view the clips on your own computer.
Or send me a Private Message if they are my clips as above you are after….
Go have a look on the coming soon section of JCD’s website JCDecaux dot ie
hmmm……not that I didn’t know this but the maps are depressing….
And the first buzzword in the Flash animation on the front page is ‘impact’- very telling indeed.
(I presume they mean the impact of the advertising, rather than any other sort of impact. Say, that of a car on a cyclist…)
The curbside panels are downright ugly, destroying the streetscape into the bargain.
Perhaps it would be better if they went back to sandwich boards, and I’m not joking.
Latest installment….
There’s a new guy in town…Patrick St/Dean St.
ABP decision on ALL of rhese we managed to get to appeal..
1. It is considered that the proposed metropole sign by reason of its excessive
scale, height and horizontal proportions would be overbearing and insensitive
to the amenities and character of the streetscape at this location. The proposed
development would seriously injure the visual amenities of the area and
would, therefore, be contrary to the proper planning and sustainable
development of the area.2. Having regard to the site location on the footpath adjacent to a major
intersection of heavily trafficked and conflicting traffic movements, a
contraflowing cycle lane and a busy pedestrian environment and several
competing demands on the attention of motorists, cyclists and pedestrians, it is
considered that the proposed metropole sign by reason of scale, proportions
and visual prominence would distract the attention of motorists and other road
users to an undue degree. The proposed development would, therefore,
endanger public safety by reason of traffic hazard and be contrary to the
proper planning and sustainable development of the area.@Dept of Environment & DCC as stated on billboard wrote:
LITTER IS DISGUSTING, SO ARE THOSE RESPONSIBLE
Indeed.
Shame on John Gormley & his department for being the first to hire these units to lecture the citizens about despoiling the environment.
Absolutely f***ing disgraceful. :mad::mad::mad:
I saw one of those big ones on the finglas road, jutting out over the on-footpath cycle lane. I’d have to go down there and check, but i’m almost sure a tall/standing cyclist would smack their head into it going past.
Yep, same on the Crumlin Road, the base of the thing can’t be moe than 7′ off the ground.
They installed the Patrick St/Dean St one at 03.10 on Friday night/ Saturday morning. I was rolling home after a few too many after work drinks and decided to incoherently vent some of this forums rage at the poor Jc Decaux workers. I’m fairly sure the eloquent and articulate objection I heard in my head just came out as a series of gurgles and muttering. To my mind as well it was all part of the shifty circumstances that they installed these things so late.
Seriously tho, these things are so obtrusive and all are appearing in the working class areas of the city. They’re absouletly unavodiable to the eye. Its ridiculous to have advertising become the focus of our public realm.
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