New Advertising in Dublin
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Larger units
All the bases are in place
Where have these been spotted (I don’t drive much outside inner city these days)
There more likley to be spotted on the periphery actually. Two I know of are in Whitehall and Patricki Street….there’s a lot more though
Grahamh`s picture of the bottom detail of these panels illustrates another potential for accident.
If one observes a blind person using a “white-stick” a pattern is discernible.
The person usually “sweeps” the area immediately in front of them in a varying arc.Now as the numerous photo`s illustrate,DCC has superimposed most of the panels directly onto the footpath.
Therefore a Blind person can be placed in atruly awful situation as their “white-stick” will fail to impact upon any solid part of the frame due to the Cutouts.
This will leave the unfortunate Blind person disorientated and perhaps even injured as they walk directly into the frame itself.This has to be the tackiest most ill-advised piece of slip-shod administration DCC have ever become involved in.
It`s not even the JCD/DCC contract that is grating,but rather the simplistic and downright dangerous manner in which these intrusive things have been erected.God! That is criminal.
Guys, someone sort this out. This is insane. I could not even see the funny side of it if I wanted to. How much clutter are in those photos already?!
Strikes me as the kind of thing Morning Ireland could take an interest in (I think Cathal MacCoille cycles in from the Northside, and surely must care about road safety), and they appear to have more time to spend on features in this summer season. Need some hard-hitting interviewer like him or Aine Lawlor to grill (and crucify) JCD/DCC. Email sent – I think! (Used morningireland@rte.ie and it didn’t bounce back.)
An interesting article on the Parisian scheme in today’s London Times:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4289943.eceThe Times – July 8, 2008
A year on, the cycle experiment has hit some bumps
Charles Bremner in Marie Tourres, ParisAs Paris marks this week the first anniversary of the appearance of public bicycles on its streets, other cities are watching ever more closely a hugely successful experiment in self-service public transport.
Since Bertrand Delanoe, the city’s Mayor, took the gamble of putting 16,000 vélibs, short for vélo liberté, or bike freedom, at the disposal of Parisians, the stately grey machines have been taken out for a spin a total of 27 million times. To the pleasure of the left-wing council and the frustration of drivers, cycle traffic has jumped by 70 per cent as Parisians take advantage of the almost-free service.
But as Boris Johnson, an regular cyclist, ponders a similar scheme for London, he may well consider the downside. Paris’s vélibs are used for 120,000 trips a day, each one averaging 22 minutes. However, the pedal boom has been attended by a jump in cycle deaths and injuries. Three vélib riders have been crushed under the wheels of heavy vehicles and about 70 have been injured since January this year. After a 35-year-old violinist was killed by a municipal bus in a bus lane in May, her father called on the Mayor to suspend the vélib scheme.
The authorities are blaming the cyclists as well as the city’s notoriously aggressive drivers, although the overall accident rate has declined by 20 per cent. Many accidents involve inexperienced riders or careless tourists.
Police are handing out football-style yellow cards this week to cyclists, drivers and pedestrians who commit minor but potentially dangerous offences. Last year 7,000 fines were issued to cyclists, double the previous year. Yet few riders of the vélibs bother to wear helmets or high-visibility attire and more than half do not stop at red lights.
The bikes, which are free for the first 30 minutes and are available from 1,200 high-tech docking zones, have proven more vulnerable than expected to thefts and vandalism and less robust than they were supposed to be.
JCDecaux, the firm which operates the bicycles in return for concessions in display advertising, acknowledges that it found the scheme tougher than it had expected. About 3,000 of the €400 (£320) bikes have been vandalised or stolen, it said. Hundreds have vanished, and Parisians are sighting them in Romania, Casablanca and more exotic spots in Africa. Last month Le Parisien published a picture of a boy showing off his vélib in a Romanian village. Rumours fly that port customs officers are discovering containers loaded with vélibs. Albert Asseraf, the strategy director at Decaux, said that London should consider a few rules for the scheme: “Install a dense network with docking stations every 350 metres; keep the hire cost minimal; base it on credit [payment] cards, and make sure the maintenance system is up to scratch.” A spokesman for Mr Johnson said yesterday that the Mayor “has already had very productive discussions with Transport for London regarding plans to create a bicycle hire scheme in London, along the lines of the hugely popular vélib scheme in Paris.”
Vélo city
– Paris’s vélib scheme is by far the biggest in the world. The total number of bikes will reach 20,000 by the end of the year.
– 1,500 bikes are repaired every day, most at the docking stations.
– The fee system is designed to encourage short hires. A day ticket costs €1 (80p), a weekly one €5, an annual one €29. The first half-hour is free, with an additional cost of €1 per half hour.
– The city of Paris has made about €30 million profit in the first year but JCDecaux, the firm that supplies the bikes, is reported to have spent millions over budget because of greater than expected wear and tear, theft and vandalism.
It would be better if DCC built car parks under the footpaths and made car parking pay for the cycles not signs?
Oh and get rid of heavy vehicles buses????could they start some sort of bicycle education scheme connected to the bike?
i wonder how many lorries are about in paris, its not a port city though.
@StephenC wrote:
its already been done…check a few pages back on this thread. or a JCDecaux thread
can’t find it where is it?
Fresh controversy erupted over Dublin’s “billboards for bikes” scheme after one of the new advert panels became an instant traffic hazard.
The sleek electronic “metropanel” was placed directly in front of a set of traffic lights and pedestrian crossing at a busy city junction.
Dublin City Council has ordered advertising giants JC Decaux to immediately remove the structure that outraged locals and councillors.
Calls have now been made for a halt to all work on the scheme until the newly-erected signs are safety-tested.
The 2.5-metre ad panel at the notorious junction of Dorset Street and Synott Place was one of a series of billboards being installed in a scheme backed by Dublin City Council.
The council has now requested the removal of the offending billboard and JC Decaux has undertaken to do so in the next 24 hours.
obstruction
“The sign was an obstruction to the traffic lights and as such its sitting was not in accordance with the terms of the grant of planning permission at this location”, a council spokesman said.
“Recent improvement works along Dorset Street has altered the width and alignment of the footpath at this location resulting in the approved sign, which was erected in the correct location, obstructing views for pedestrians and motorists”.
He stressed that a safety audit under the terms of the planning permissions granted is being compiled by JC Decaux and where any sign fails the audit they will be removed.
However, Councillor Emer Costello said: “I am outraged by what I have seen, especially as there has been a huge number of incidents at those particular traffic lights”.
JC Decaux proposed funding a free bicycle scheme similar to other European capitals in return for around 150 billboards, though this was later dropped to under 100.
Dublin City Council eventually agreed to 72 sites and some were appealed. In February, An Bord Pleanala overturned permission for 18 billboards, but endorsed six of the 2.5-metre high structures.
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/billboards-that-caused-traffic-chaos-1430159.html
*Sigh* journalists…well done for picking it up but the picture doesn’t exactly ‘tell the story’.
“Sleek”???
He stressed that a safety audit under the terms of the planning permissions granted is being compiled by JC Decaux and where any sign fails the audit they will be removed.
The point (and the story!) is that the safety audit is only being done AFTER construction.
erected in the correct location
No it wasn’t
Dublin City Council eventually agreed to 72 sites
No, they agreed too more – individuals paying almost €300 each in taking it to An Bord Pleanala reduced that number.
Who changed the road layout – DCC, who granted permission. DCC.
Hmmm…excuses.
Well I am glad at least that sign is being removed, the obvious peril it put people in made me fearful every time I passed it. Well done to all those who complained.
@lostexpectation wrote:
can’t find it where is it?
Not Google Maps, but they’re shown on these maps here.
@notjim wrote:
and it’s gone!
Good news. It’s just depressing that DCC didn’t take on this simple message back when this proposal was first mooted:
(1) For the majority of people, the reason they don’t cycle is not that they don’t have or can’t afford a bike, it’s that they feel unsafe cycling on Dublin’s streets.
(2) To encourage people onto bikes – and because it is itself a desirable objective – the streets need to be made safer.
(3) The size, nature and location of these advertising units make the streets LESS safe.
……(a) For goodness sake – they’re deliberately designed to catch motorists’ eyes. A motorist looking at an ad = a motorist not looking at the road.
……(b) They also obscure pedestrians’ and road users’ views of one another.
……(c) By taking up so much of the footpath, they greatly increase the likelihood that a pedestrian will hop out onto the road to get round the obstacle – probably straight into the path of a cyclist – because they “didn’t hear any traffic”. No, bikes don’t have noisy engines.
There will be an item on this on the Breakfast Show on newstalk tomorrow (Thurs 10th July) at approx 8am.
Please send your comments to breakfast@newstalk.ie or text 53106
Appreciate your further support.
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