New Advertising in Dublin
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- August 1, 2007 at 5:10 pm #776857
urbanisto
ParticipantWhat Protected Structure are they being installed on
August 1, 2007 at 5:49 pm #776858newgrange
ParticipantNewcomen Bridge is a protected structure. Case No. 6768/06 wants to enhance it with one of the metropole ‘things’.
A thing of beauty you’ll agree:
http://www.dublincity.ie/AnitePublicDocs/00119581.pdf
List of Protected structures: http://www.dublincity.ie/Images/RPS_tcm35-8619.pdfAugust 7, 2007 at 11:21 am #776859lostexpectation
ParticipantI wonder if you took the classic tourist snap of the whole church above would you get the metropole in the shot
August 7, 2007 at 11:58 am #776860urbanisto
ParticipantSorry but that is just rubbish. Im no fan of these large units (have no problem with the smaller ones) but objecting to this on the ground it somehow impinges on Newcomen Bridge is utter nonsense. The bridge shouldnt even be on the RPS – its a disaster and of no merit at all as far as I can see, at least at street level.
August 16, 2007 at 2:11 pm #776861john white
ParticipantThose billboards around Stephen’s Green displaying wildlife photography… that’s not a softly softly, stealthy introduction of these things is it?
John
August 17, 2007 at 1:42 am #776862Devin
Participant@newgrange wrote:
Newcomen Bridge is a protected structure. Case No. 6768/06 wants to enhance it with one of the metropole ‘things’.
A thing of beauty you’ll agree:
http://www.dublincity.ie/AnitePublicDocs/00119581.pdfIs the implication of that picture that it’s so depressing & grey & rainy & trafficey around there that it wouldn’t really matter if you put up a sign like that?
August 17, 2007 at 8:44 am #776863Lotts
ParticipantYikes – that’s a grim picture!
I also notice that the positioning of the metropole means that the southbound bicycle lane (textured section on pavement) is completely obscured for any car exiting Guildford Place (as it is correctly spelt).
August 20, 2007 at 5:11 pm #776864newgrange
ParticipantMy appeal on the Newcomen Bridge one was due a decision today.
This has been put back now til December 11th.A possibility that they are considering them all together? Anyone hear anything?
August 20, 2007 at 7:39 pm #776865alonso
Participanthmm that’s an interesting one. A single application such as this would normally be dealt with very quickly. I’d say you’re right though. They seem to be considering this as one single scheme effectively
August 20, 2007 at 11:07 pm #776866GrahamH
ParticipantYes that sounds likely.
An unrelated scheme, but as it was mentioned, some of the wildlife thingamajigs in the Green at the moment.

And even more unrelated, but I just thought these rotund fellows made quite the stoical scene, contemplating their little feathered world.

…annnyway – back to signs.
August 21, 2007 at 1:20 pm #776867newgrange
ParticipantGot letters today in relation to the two appeals I have in (Newcomen Bridge and Summerhill) saying the Board has decided to hold an oral hearing of them and to determine the appeals before December 12th.
I’m presuming this is along with all the other appeals related to this scheme and not just my two.August 21, 2007 at 2:10 pm #776868ctesiphon
ParticipantAs far as I know, the Oral Hearing covers all the sites that were appealed.
Good news.
August 23, 2007 at 3:21 am #776869Paul Clerkin
KeymasterAn Taisce queries number of billboard application hearings
Tim O’Brien
An Taisce has questioned a decision by An Bord Pleanála to hold an oral hearing into just 25 out of 120 applications for billboard sites throughout Dublin.
Under a deal between Dublin City Council and international advertising agency JC Decaux, the city is to be provided with free bicycles in return for permission to erect the billboards at key city locations.
Two types of billboards are proposed, 70 boards which are free standing and cover an area of up to seven square metres, and 50 smaller boards which are about the size of a bus-shelter poster.
The larger billboards may carry moving images and be illuminated at night. The advertising space value to Dublin City Council has been estimated at more then €8 million.
Some 500 bicycles are to be provided by JC Decaux for Dubliners to use and return, in a deal similar to that done with other European cities.
However, concern has been expressed that Dublin is getting a worse deal than other cities.
In Paris, for example, the company is to provide 20,600 bicycles in return for 1,628 billboards, a ratio of almost 13 bicycles to each billboard, three times the ration being offered to Dublin.
While the Dublin contract also envisages the provision of some street conveniences, the Paris one envisages an annual rent of more than €2,000 a unit for 10 years.
A spokesman for An Taisce claimed that in Lyon, France, a city with a population similar to Dublin, 3,000 bicycles had been made available – six times more than here.
However, Dublin City Council has refused to release the exact nature of the deal, citing “commercial sensitivity”.
Following the announcement by An Bord Pleanála that it intended to hold oral hearings into applications for just 25 sites, an spokesman for An Taisce called for each site to be afforded the same level of scrutiny.
“Some of these are in narrow city streets where their size alone may constitute a safety hazard, with posters blocking drivers’ views of traffic lights and sign posts. In other areas, there may be streets of architectural amenity which these things will destroy. It is unbelievable that the city could even consider this.”
© 2007 The Irish TimesAugust 24, 2007 at 8:58 am #776870hutton
ParticipantThis was covered on Morning Ireland this morning, from 08:40 onwards.
A report by a correspondant in Paris followed by an interview with Andrew Montague, with notably no critic to balance. No mention of the lack of EIS, differential between benefits to Paris as opposed to Dublin, or that the contract which was agreed prior to councillors knowledge still has not been released… All in all, a very biased piece IMO – but judge for yourself if you want at: http://www.rte.ie/news/morningireland/August 24, 2007 at 5:17 pm #776871Paul Clerkin
KeymasterCheck out the results of the poll on the rte news site – overwhelmingly against it
August 24, 2007 at 5:51 pm #776872hutton
Participant@Paul Clerkin wrote:
Check out the results of the poll on the rte news site – overwhelmingly against it
Hmmm Thats very interesting. In the mean time RTE 6.1 TV news is about to air another piece on “free” bikes in Paris.
August 24, 2007 at 8:46 pm #776873hutton
Participant@Paul Clerkin wrote:
Check out the results of the poll on the rte news site – overwhelmingly against it
Hi Paul – it’d be very interesting if you could help with a link]RTÉ News: Free bikes
A free bicycle initiative, which has proved to be a success in Paris, could soon be on its way to Ireland.[/QUOTE]…and just to think, there’s all those nasty people ot there on archiseek that just seem to have a problem with stuff thats “free”…
BTW did anyone see the 6.1 piece? A little bit odd that the correspondant left it til the end to note in the same breath that while Paris gets 20,000 bikes for 1500 billboards (inaccurate + no mention of annual rental), Dublin gets 500 bikes for “about 100” billboards… give or take 30; but sure then what need accuracy when reported on the national broadcaster? 😮
Suffice to say that while it was pointed out that there are bike stations within 300 yards of each other in Paris, no mention as to how will the 500 would distributed in Dublin?*cough*, EIS? Transparency? etc 😡
August 25, 2007 at 1:55 pm #776874Anonymous
InactiveResults of a poll on RTE News website as of today at 2:20 pm
What do you make of Dublin’s bikes for billboards deal?
The 120 new billboards will be a scar on the city…………46% (1909 votes)
The bicycles will start disappearing from day one………..21% (876 votes)
A great initiative for the environment and our health…..13% (565 votes)
More cycle lanes should come first……………………………14% (603 votes)
It won’t get me out of my car …………………………………….6% (236 votes)Total Votes: 4189
August 25, 2007 at 2:11 pm #776875hutton
Participant@Sloan wrote:
Results of a poll on RTE News website as of today at 2:20 pm
What do you make of Dublin’s bikes for billboards deal?
The 120 new billboards will be a scar on the city…………46% (1909 votes)
The bicycles will start disappearing from day one………..21% (876 votes)
A great initiative for the environment and our health…..13% (565 votes)
More cycle lanes should come first……………………………14% (603 votes)
It won’t get me out of my car …………………………………….6% (236 votes)Total Votes: 4189
Thanks Sloan…So only 1 in 8 out of a poll of over 4000 are in favour of this? Very interesting…
It would be great if you could please post a direct link to the poll if possible 🙂
Thanks – H
August 25, 2007 at 7:30 pm #776876Anonymous
InactiveThis is the poll from RTE’s Website at http://www.rte.ie/news/index.html
Also provided links ….”Watch” ……RTE Six One News Item shown yesterday . . . . . ……”Listen”……..Morning Ireland ShowRTÉ News: Free bikes
A free bicycle initiative, which has proved to be a success in Paris, could soon be on its way to Ireland.
Watch | ListenThe poll can also be viewed here http://www.polldaddy.com/poll.asp?p=93008
Results
What do you make of Dublin’s bikes for billboards deal?
31%
The 120 new billboards will be a scar on the city 27%
The bicycles will start disappearing from day one 18%
More cycle lanes should come first 17%
A great initiative for the environment and our health 7%
It won’t get me out of my car Total votes: 8414Date: 2007-08-24 - AuthorPosts
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