Natural History Museum
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- May 11, 2010 at 2:51 pm #790051
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InactiveI wonder has GrahamH done enough of these reports to warrant his own sub forum?! A collection of reports on buildings around the city might be very handy.
May 11, 2010 at 3:07 pm #790052Anonymous
Inactive+ 5 or is that 6

Outstanding ๐
May 11, 2010 at 10:22 pm #790053Anonymous
Inactive@Global Citizen wrote:
What a wonderful study. Beautifully described and photographed.
Well done Graham. You have surpassed yourself yet again.Great pics and well observed – a valuable record really – should persuade many to visit?
Obviously you didn’t show the ‘adult’ section of the museum – and very sensitive of you – given this is a family forum.
Nevertheless, I have included a (comparatively) poor image from that section (the lesser spotted flasher [sporting a typically shoddy Mac]).:D
May 11, 2010 at 10:54 pm #790054Anonymous
InactiveHeheh – didn’t see him at all! I have to go back now and learn stuff! If there is an understated aspect to the museum, it is its educational value. The wealth of in-depth information on offer is a whole other dimension of the place – somewhere you can visit time and time again and find something new.
Just on the entrance ramp, I see there’s a second step above the initial one, so that certainly changes matters. No doubt different options were carefully considered, but a graded path surface flowing into a slender timber ramp mounted on the lower step might have resolved matters less obtrusively. Indeed, even the existing ensemble in timber would make for a softer intervention.
May 18, 2010 at 6:28 pm #790055Anonymous
InactiveRe: recent revelations on the behavioural habits of the Fruit Bat
@publicrealm wrote:
. . . . the ‘adult’ section of the museum – (the lesser spotted flasher [sporting a typically shoddy Mac]).

Fair play publicrealm, you had the scoop on this lad
May 18, 2010 at 10:10 pm #790056Anonymous
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Two letters below to The Irish Times (and Indo) over the past few days. Truly, you wonder with some people…
New life in the ‘Dead Zoo’?
Monday, May 17, 2010Madam, – Following the much heralded re-opening of the Natural History Museum, my wife and I took our two small children along for an outing. The great Irish deer (not elk, we are told) remains as impressive as ever; but I’m sorry to report, the rest of the museum was something of a let-down.
The years of apparent refurbishment are little in evidence. Old Victorian cases, crammed (or stuffed) with endless specimens and dioramas of animal life predominate. Yellowing cards, apparently as old as the specimens themselves, are what seem to pass for explanations of what is on exhibit – with Latin names often to the fore. Is this really the best way to showcase the natural history of this island?
I saw few if any attempts at contextualising the specimens, or using thematic or environmental approaches, or timelines, or indeed anything that might educate us in a more holistic way about Ireland’s rich fauna.
As for the usage of modern interactive technologies that are so apparent in leading museums around the world – there was not a sign. However, I must confess my observations were limited only to the ground floor exhibits, perhaps the exhibits of worldwide animals on the upper floors might have made at least a nod to 21st-century educational and museum standards? Perhaps. But there is no lift to the upper floors (despite the years of renovation) so, as a wheelchair-user, I will never know. – Yours, etc,
JAMES MacCARTHY- MORROGH,
Shankill, Co Dublin.
New life in the ‘Dead Zoo’?
Tuesday, May 18, 2010Madam, – James MacCarthy-Morrogh (May 17th), having visited the reopened Natural History Museum, bemoans the absence of “modern interactive technologies” and other characteristics of leading museums worldwide. He has, perhaps, missed the point.
As a visitor since my childhood, and a visitor with my children, to me it is the very fact that it is not a modern museum that makes it attractive. It is an institution dedicated to a bygone age where museums were stocked by the mass slaughter of wild animals and where the wielder of the gun got almost as much recognition as the beast slain. It is full of decaying exhibits displayed with a style set in the 19th century and influenced by the 18th. It is a monument to taxidermy and pickling, butterfly pinning and crab splaying. It is so old-fashioned it is the most modern of institutions, an ironically self-referential museum dedicated to how museums used to be, made interesting if seen as a fully interactive, three-dimensional model of a Victorian museum in which visitors can imagine what it was like to explore natural history 100, and more, years ago. It is, therefore, a museum dedicated to the history of natural history museums. What more could we hope for? – Yours, etc,
MICHAEL SINNOTT,
Bangor Road, Dublin 12
Thanks Michael!
On another note, here is the report of December 2007 on the collapse of the cantilevered staircase in the Natural History Museum by Price & Myers consulting engineers. As widely expected, it was the legacy of splicing in new pieces of stone to make good surface wear on the steps of the subject flight that caused it to collapse. Small wonder then that a very necessary flurry of inspections took place on all so-called ‘cantilevered’ staircases in State ownership in the immediate aftermath of the incident, given this was the repair treatment applied to many of these staircases since the 1960s, when little was known about the mechanics of their loadings.
May 18, 2010 at 10:41 pm #790057Anonymous
InactiveGrahamH wrote:Fully agree – an excellent letter- sums up the uniqueness and importance of the place much better than I could.Wrong place for interactive displays – all you need to do is visit and look at the sheer excitement and joy on the faces of the children.
I do think there is room for some more written information – several specimens are completely unidentified (the marvellous muskrat for example has no nametag at all).
I also think there should be a means of access to the first floor for those who need it – actually didn’t realise there was none (how did they get the heavier exhibits upthere?
May 18, 2010 at 10:51 pm #790058Anonymous
InactiveHeheh – this great report by Philip Bromwell explains all, publicrealm ๐
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0415/9news_av.html?2526249,null,230
May 18, 2010 at 11:21 pm #790059Anonymous
Inactive@gunter wrote:
Re: recent revelations on the behavioural habits of the Fruit Bat
Fair play publicrealm, you had the scoop on this lad
Oh a lively lad is the fruity bat – though I suspect this specimen is of the fairer sex..
(am I allowed to say that? apologies in advance to any offended colleagues..):DMay 19, 2010 at 1:20 am #790060Anonymous
InactiveAll the interactive display nonsense should be kept away from this museum. I do think, however, there’s room for that in a museum of science which this country badly needs, and I don’t mean a museum just for children. If Ireland wants to improve the quality of its third level science education and its scientific reputation, there should be some sort of science facility to promote it. It’s not difficult to create a good science museum like the one in London, including exhibits honouring great Irish scientists like Boyle, Kelvin, Walton and the like. Considering that a recent list of the 100 greatest Irish people didn’t include a single scientist or mathematician, I think it’s sorely needed.
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