National Stadium
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@GregF wrote:
Pleeze will ever make a start on Lansdowne Road!
From the Indo:
A planning application for the new stadium is expected to be lodged in December.
…..design team includes HOK Sport, which was involved in the Croke Park project and is currently working on the Arsenal and Wembley stadia in London 🙂So presumably we will not know what the new stadium will look like until December????
Also a pity they are not proposing a retractable roof.
@GregF wrote:
I just hope that it will be quite stylish and a proud addition to the city and country.
that would be a first for STW
If we do not have provision for track and field at Lansdown Road, what hope do we ever have for such a national athletics facility in the future?
@DublinLimerick wrote:
If we do not have provision for track and field at Lansdown Road, what hope do we ever have for such a national athletics facility in the future?
Athletics and real sport don’t mix. Unless you’re going to issue free binoculars to the spectators
A minor upgrade of Morton Stadium would suffice for athletics needs in this country. Unless we plan to hold a major event, the interest in other meetings wouldn’t jutify giving up a large part of a new Soccer/Rugby stadium to a track that will rarely be used.
There’s plenty of development potential in Santry Stadium anyway?Most National Stadia in Europe and elsewhere integrate ball sports with track and field sports.
It offers increased usage of the facility. How many internationals of rugby//soccer will be staged at
Lansdown Road per year? A separate athletics atadium that can hold National/European/World/Grand Prix events
is just not financially viable. But it can add critical mass to a National Stadium.@DublinLimerick wrote:
Most National Stadia in Europe and elsewhere integrate ball sports with track and field sports.
It offers increased usage of the facility. How many internationals of rugby//soccer will be staged at
Lansdown Road per year? A separate athletics atadium that can hold National/European/World/Grand Prix events
is just not financially viable. But it can add critical mass to a National Stadium.This thread is going around in a circle. I refer you to the very first reply you had – by Jimg – which summed up exactly why athletic tracks have no place in a stadium where rugby and soccer are played – regardless of how many times that takes place. The Stade de France is a cracking stadium but absolutely pants for rugby. I spent most of my time watching the game on the big screen. If you must run around in your P.E. kit, this thread has already given plenty of options.
Most of the good will towards athletics in Ireland has died off because of doping and the lack of serious Irish competitors.
It’s a disgrace the way track and field facilities (for example Belfield) have been let go to rack and ruin.
But there just isn’t any good reason to put in place a track at Lansdowne Road.
Neither the FAI or IRFU would agree to it … and the chances of a big Euro/World athletics event getting a full house here is non-existent. Santry is more than adequate for the national championships at the moment.
A lot of the National Stadiums were built with athletics tracks because they were built for the purposes of holding the Olympics, ie Rome, Barca, Berlin.
Stade de France was built that way with a Parisian Olympic bid in mind. A similar situation has arisen in London with Wembley and their Olympic bid. But the extra cost is enormous.
Only Gay Mitchell thinks the Olympics will ever come to Dublin.Regarding Gay Mitchell and the Olympics. The reason why a number of people got involved was that if you planned in for the possibility of an Olympic bid it would mean that later on when you might actually be tempted the facilities could have been brought to bear. Though an initial investment might be a bit bigger, it is certainly cheaper than having to start form scratch. If we keep building to minimal standards then we will have minimal facilities.
I agree. But a far more pertinent issue regarding the redevelopment of Lansdowne Road is the very limited 50,000 seat capacity. It means there will be continual pressure on the GAA to open up Croke Park in non-exceptional circumstances – that is, the biennial rugby matches against France or England and the less frequent MAJOR soccer internationals. I know it’s an old point, but when the corporate boxes and other long-term seat sales are taken out of the equation, there will be even fewer tickets available to the general public for matches.
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