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  • #705274
    Jas
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    I passed the new Clare Street extension of the NGI yesterday. It looks very well, very crisp and clean. It looks best from Clare Street rather than Sth Leinster Street as it allows you to see the layering of the facade.

    I think this is going to be a great building.

    #718600
    PaulC
    Participant

    Yea – it looks great alright – I cant wait to see it when it finishes.
    Has anyone any idea when it is opening?
    I would say they will do well have it finished this side of Christmas.

    #718601
    PaulC
    Participant

    Actually to answer my own question – I got this from the National Gallery’s website( http://www.nationalgallery.ie ), regarding opening of the extension…

    The construction and design of the National Gallery of Ireland’s 4,000 sq m Millennium Wing is now nearing completion. To manage the final critical stages of the project, it will be necessary to close the Gallery to the public for a projected period of two months prior to Christmas, ahead of the opening in January 2002. This period will allow for a re-hang of the collection and an opportunity for the redecoration of the existing galleries.

    #718602
    Declan
    Participant

    Anyone else think the projecting screen and opening look overscaled?

    #718603
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    state of the building on saturday 22nd september…..

    #718604
    MG
    Participant

    Declan, it does to me also, but remember until the conservation lobby had their way, the victorian building next door was to be demolished and the facade was to be longer. It was saved to protect the small Georgian ballroom to the rear of the house which i now believe is going to be a small pavilion inside the new gallery space..

    #718605
    GregF
    Participant

    I thought this brutalist stuff was long gone out of fashion……Huge minimalist slabs of windowsless concrete. Wait till this gets weathered too it will look just crap.

    #718606
    James
    Participant

    MG the ‘Victorian’ building which you refer to dates from around 1770 and is almost entirely intact internally, the ballroom is a little later.

    Bloody old buildings – always getting in the way. We should knock the lot!!!

    [This message has been edited by James (edited 24 September 2001).]

    #718607
    GregF
    Participant

    This looks overly obtrusive in the streetscape ……trying to emulate the Guggenheim?….will be on a par with the ESB offices on FitzWilliam Street in years to come on reflection.

    #718608
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Quite a bit of Denys Lasdun, circa 1960, in that. Which is a compliment, if you like Lasdun.

    #718609
    GregF
    Participant

    ……Does’nt it pick up on the nuances of the original main building……echoes of the rather ugly interpenetrated columns with block……is that the same type of stone used too in the cladding……however I’ll say the interior will be good.
    By it’s outward appearance this would be an ideal gallery space dedidicated solely to the cubists.

    [This message has been edited by GregF (edited 25 September 2001).]

    #718610
    MG
    Participant

    Greg, with galleries you do not want a whole lot of natural light. Direct light isnt great for the paintings.

    Really James? I was in the building years ago when it was Maptec and the Drawing Centre was underneath. Upstairs was in poor enough condition even then. What are they going to do with the building now? Administrative offices?

    #718611
    GregF
    Participant

    That’s true MG…but I did’nt really mean direct natural sunlight…but rather ‘cheeriness’ as opposed to it’s rather ‘austere’ exterior

    [This message has been edited by GregF (edited 25 September 2001).]

    #718612
    MG
    Participant

    I follow ya. I do quite like the austerity of the building myself. Most of the galleries in the current gallery are completely uninteresting spaces so hopefully this new extension will add a focus / people space for the ensemble.

    A city needs contrast and Clare Street is reasonably intact (with the exception of the rather bland pastiche Gov Dept building) but South Leinster Street is full of bland uninteresting buildings – think of the two awful blocks before the Georgian building. I think it will act as a full stop to the street just as it runs into Clare Street.

    #718613
    DARA H
    Participant

    I passed by this builing recently and i thought it looked odd but kind of nice and impressive. Not sure it will look quite so hot if it is allowed to become black with grime.
    I hope that the bottom right corner of the facade as seen on the photo above uses a lot of glazing ‘cos i think it would be a nice contrast to the rest of the building. If it were all plainish wall like what can be seen now however, it would look as if a box had been dropped into the terrace which would not look very nice streetwise.

    [This message has been edited by DARA H (edited 25 September 2001).]

    #718614
    Declan
    Participant

    I like the extension – especially as the model proposes it to be; however, it looks like a rather less successful relative of their Museum of Scotland; the scaling and compostion used for an Edinburgh streetscape seems to have just been transferred across to a very differently composed Dublin streetscape.

    #718615
    trace
    Participant

    Arthur Gibney and Partners have been appointed architects for the adjoining ‘retained’ building, No 5 South Leinster Street, which is to be restored under a separate contract.

    #718616
    Rory W
    Participant

    The reason it doesn’t blend in as well as the museum of Scotland is that the stone is in contrast to the surrounding streetscape (brick) whereas the Edinburgh building uses the same material as the surrounding buildings

    #718617
    quirkey
    Participant

    exactly what i was thinking.
    In design we talk so much about context and respect for surrounding buildings, yet so many of us have to be FLASH. Aparently in design, material isnt part of the nature of a place. Our own building is somehow more important than the rest and therefore aparently deserves to be distinct (i.e. stick out or not fit in ) at least material wise.
    Well o.k. maybe the national gallery is a worthwhile exception,
    Otherwise, if the inside is goingto be like the model and drawings i’ve seen, it’s going to be a pretty fabulous place.

    #718618
    MG
    Participant

    From AJPlus



    Construction is about to begin on the £17.5 million extension to the National Gallery of Ireland in Dublin, designed by Benson & Forsyth. The design, which had to be changed considerably to accommodate a listed building, is in three parallel zones running north to south. The most easterly of these houses the larger portion of the temporary gallery on the upper levels with ancillary accommodation below. The central zone comprises a full-height orientation space plus the bulk of the building’s circulation. In the westerly zone is a full-height conservatory space plus coffee and resturant facilities and additional gallery space above.

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