National Conference Centre Competition 2005

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    • #707867
      Rockflanders
      Participant

      The submissions for the conference centre competition went in last Friday according to the weekends papers.
      I am sick of looking at Roche’s sugar bowl but does anyone have any pictures of the other building?

    • #756013
      jimg
      Participant

      Isn’t the full title “The Annual National Conference Centre Competition, 2005”?

    • #756014
      GrahamH
      Participant

      🙂

      A ‘favourite’ is due to be chosen ‘before the end of the summer’ apparently.

      Indeed.

    • #756015
      Rockflanders
      Participant

      Bit negative about a great opportunity for Dublin here, aren’t we?

    • #756016
      jimg
      Participant

      Sceptical would be a more appropriate adjective than negative. We’ve being hearing about proposals for a national conference centre for years now. In the meantime “Mansfield’s giant heap of crap” has gone up without planning permission.

      I would be interested in learning more about the other (Alexander Dock??) proposal though.

    • #756017
      d_d_dallas
      Participant

      …A ‘favourite’ is due to be chosen ‘before the end of the summer’ apparently.

      Which summer?
      😉

    • #756018
      Leesider
      Participant
      d_d_dallas wrote:
      …A ‘favourite’ is due to be chosen ‘before the end of the summer’ apparently.

      Which summer?
      ]

      it looks like we aren’t going to get one this year, so god only knows!! 😉

    • #756019
      GrahamH
      Participant

      On a related (okay not at all) issue – does anyone know what site it is that the DDDA offered to the Abbey two weeks ago?

      John O’Donoghue said it had a lead over other proposals being considered.

    • #756020
      notjim
      Participant

      they have a scheme for a small, historic-pastiche, venue which will, amazingly, allow the abbey to tour the states, or at least coastal parts of the states, while still performing in their own theatre.

    • #756021
      Rockflanders
      Participant

      A barge then?

      I have to admit thought that any project Treasury are involved in I would be sceptical about its fruition. What was the full story with the last competition? My understanding is that Treasury won it and refused to build. Anyone remember?

    • #756022
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Yes that is about the long and the short of it, essentially conference centres lose a lot of money and no-one in their right mind would develop one as a stand alone project but would be prepared to develop one as a condition of a much larger planning permission. When Spencer Dock mark 1 was refused they obviuosly did their sums and concluded that they couldn’t develop a conference centre in the absence of any of the elements that would have financed it over a 10 to 20 year timeframe. Whilst Spencer Dock mark 2 is a much better development Treasury have yet to go on the record and state that they are prepared to construct Kevin Roches design on a definite timeframe.

      The lesson that must be learned here as that while the conference centre is a very worthy objective and of obvious long-term value to the City, it is a ‘Trojan Horse’ for a quantum of development at least ten times its size.

    • #756023
      Rockflanders
      Participant

      Are the Government really going to give them the contract again in that case?

    • #756024
      Rockflanders
      Participant

      Same as 7 years ago

    • #756025
      JPD
      Participant

      Is that what is being built in Spencer Dock?

      There seem to be a lot of buildings very close together, although the one in the front looks good.

    • #756026
      Highrise
      Participant

      Kevin Roches Design should be built without doubt, it is the most imaginative in the best location etc. Its a pity a version of his design for the entire Spencerdock is not being built instead of the boring 5 storey design currently under construction.

    • #756027
      Rockflanders
      Participant

      Imaginative in comparison to what? That was what the thread was about at the start!! 😉
      Its the same as the Abbey site in the papers, we all know its on a DDDA site but nobody knows where or what it will look like.
      The other Conference centre site is on Alexandra Dock according to the Irish Times editorial of a while back, nobody I know has seen any designs though.

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