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  • #704812
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Any idea when this series starts on RTE?

    #714435
    Askew
    Participant

    I must admit that I am really looking forward to this to see their approach; if it is downright populist or aimed at architects and those with more than a passing interest.

    It will be interesting to discuss the programmes on this board.

    #714436
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I don’t know when it is due to start, as there is no date on the ESB sponsored website for the show [a website with no content!] or on the RIAI site yet.

    #714437
    Mrs. M. J. Lister
    Participant

    ……i searched that site too….no date
    so i wrote to both RTE and the email on the site before x-mas…..still no answer!!

    #714438
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Sometime in the second week of February, I hear.

    #714439
    MG
    Participant

    Programmes:

    Ourselves Alone – Looking at state building in Ireland from 1922 to the present day.

    A Place of Worship – Will seek to appraise the quality of Irish church architecture and sacred art since the foundation of the state.

    Terracotta or Plastic? – Will take a critical and challenging look at the way the visual arts has been marginalised, especially in mainstream Irish education.

    On the Land – Examining the radical impact the changes in Irish agriculture have had on the architecture and built landscape of the Irish countryside.

    Business or Pleasure? – Will look at the very different approaches taken to the design of the workplace compared to those for leisure and play.

    Some Living Space – About domestic architecture that gives special attention to the experience of urban living in Ireland.

    This Permissive Society – Will examine the history of public planning policy in modern Ireland.

    Nation Building: Beyond the Millennium – Looking at issues such as conservation, government policy on design and architecture, and sustainability.

    #714440
    MG
    Participant

    There’s an article about the programme in today’s “The Sunday Times” by Shane O’Toole.

    #714441
    Jas
    Participant

    Nation Building starts on February 10th, RTÉ 1,7.30 p.m.

    #714442
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hopefully, it will be worth watching. There would be nothing as sad, as producing a poor programme that would discourage people from having an interest in architecture.

    #714443
    dc3
    Participant

    This programme series should be worth watching and at least you can turn off a bad programme, unlike bad architecture.

    Perhaps they might be prepared to draw some conclusions concerning brown envelopes and the urban sprawl.

    #714444
    Jas
    Participant

    What will be interesting, will be to see and read the attitudes and responses from the regular posters here to the ideas in the programme.

    #714445
    Askew
    Participant

    You know what I found surprising was the lack of promotion of the TV programme online. There is no mention of the show on the RIAI website and they’re supposedly one of the programmes advisors.

    #714446
    john white
    Participant

    AAAARRGGHH !

    I missed it – working too late.

    But, a couple of my friends [at least as cultured and as interested as myself] said it was very disapointing.

    • Lots of style – not very good style
    • Lots of drum & bass music – irritating and unnecessary
    • Badly shot – especially the interviews, zooming in on people’s coffee cups or shoulder’s whilst they spoke
    • Unimaginative choices of and repetition of images

    I shouldn’t be writing this probably as I haven’t actually seen it; but these were the sorts of comments I heard. Is there any truth to them?

    When I say ‘disapointing’ I’m being restrained. I hope I enjoy it next week myself as a series like this is overdue. I suppose the first episode had most of the interesting stuff though. Ireland pavillion etc..

    John

    #714447
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It’s definitely a programme for architects about architects and architecture. It’s definitely not aimed at the man or woman in the street.

    #714448
    dc3
    Participant

    Tonights episode was much better.

    With a clearer subject, church architecture and less of the quirky graphics, a good improvement. Two quibbles, why the Honan Chapel after featuring Christ the King and why no churches by other religions?.

    #714449
    MG
    Participant

    It was much better, less disjointed but I still dont like the voiceover- as it reminds me too much of documentaries made about Ireland for Irish-America.

    The photography and presentation is otherwise excellent but how many people will have bene turned off by the first programme?

    A pity if many have, as it was a chance of popularising architecture through the use of the most popular information medium available.

    #714450
    Jas
    Participant

    So what did you think of last night’s show?

    I think in general that the series is shaping up to be fairly disappointing.

    #714451
    dc3
    Participant

    The third episode was very repetitive,
    very repetitive,
    very repetitive.

    While we had scrolling graphics in episode one, we had talking heads in episode three. No only that but very little architecture. Only good thing was the reference to Eileen Grey ,and they could not produce even a photo of E1027

    #714452
    Askew
    Participant

    I agree, only having a computer model of E1027 was a bit poor.

    #714453
    john white
    Participant

    HA HA HA HAAAAAAAA

    I saw it again last night. God it’s hopeless.
    Is it just me or is the entire thing done in extreme close-up? Perhaps the series was shot [badly] in regular format and then they went “oh crap, it looks really boring – let’s cut off the top and bottom so it’ll be in cinescope!” And then we went “Oh crap, they’ve cut off the tops of people’s heads.”

    There are [very occasional] potentially nice shots of lone corrugated steel sheds but the cameras too close and not even centered!??!? Eh? Was the crew blind?
    They must have been – everytime they shoot one of the Nation’s Buildings… a bleeding great tractor rolls past it! Oh look another tractor… the grand finale was a shot of a totally dull structure with about 4 tractors obscuring it. Bravo.

    Oh yes, and containers of shite trundling along the streets. I said “hey look – it’s another big load of shite” everybody laughed at the irony. The cows arses were also quite tremendous. The edit suite: “Hey, get this! Why don’t we… now stick with me on this… why don’t we put a shot of a building just here I think we’ll get a nice juxtaposition? No, to hell with it – put in another COW’S ARSE.” Genius, Mr. DeMille, sheer genius.

    What on earth is that opening title supposed to be?!?!?!?

    Can you imagine for one minute what the BBC could do with this subject?

    I must say, RTE has a dreadful TV comedy record but no more! Let’s hope next weeks is an improvement.

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