Mr Voting Machine’s Transport Plan

I’m not convinced with this new plan either, The Government’s perfect timing to relaunch Its annual Development plan only this time Its coming up to the elections, :rolleyes: Not perfect timing to get the Lot more to done!
A lot done more to do, oops we need to that again 😀

I’m a little disappointed in the over hyped project, the Atlantic Corridor!
Its only dual lane from Limerick to Ennis, the rest will be 2+1, even most of the Busier Cork/Limerick sections of N20
From looking at the corridor it’s more shaped of foot rather than just following the Atlantic coast
I don’t see the logic of a person living in Malin head wanting to go via Mizen head En route to Waterford, is this Economic sense, a joke I’d say. Why not Use the N24 rather than the N25, The N24 should be as much as important as the N25.
Or, It should be just an Atlantic Corridor separate from the southeast should be another and both interlinked giving the N24 more importance.
. Any Irish person that will drive this Atlantic road corridor wouldn’t drive that entire length and follow it either, even with a very bad sense of direction would not take the option of the doing the length the entire country if one were travelling Letterkenny-Waterford.

The new motorway plans isn’t exciting and surprising
Anyone with any good memory and common sense will know there is no chance in hell will the new Inter- urban motorway network be Finished by it’s given 2010 deadline, Its laughable, just ask anyone for Christ sakes. We’ve heard it over and over again dates such as 2004, 2005 2006 more all routes, this failed so >>, then back to the drawing board, out comes the new “New Development plan”, Soon after that A “new” rehash sometime last year under Seamus Brennan. Yet again When Martin Cullen became the new minister for transport seems to have changed a few things by spell checkedunder this plan, would have all motorways completed by 2007,later postponed till a more realistic 2009 and now finally 2010 under the beefed up plan 😀
and get all the south east projects going, There is no need for a dual carriageway all the way to Waterford, Its totally unnecessary, some sections of that N9 road caries only 4,000 vehicles a day! Yet since he is in power, Waterford has got more attention than Limerick and Galway routes, which carry a lot more traffic than the Waterford route,

Finally what about the Shannon Airport link, up to a few months ago was going to get a green light??
Is this now RIP???
I’m sure my children’s children’s will go on the new Atlantic coast Railway when its finally completed. I will have probably already used the new super duper fantastic trans Atlantic highway under the Ocean :rolleyes:

I’m impressed with the new plans that spiral the country looks artistic don’t you think,
Better make fun to the bits there not doing 🙂

The problem with this whole plan is that it is literally as good as it gets. Olivia Mitchell has some decidely dubious notions about transport and has the Heuston-Spencer Dock interconnector in her sights. If there is a change of government a “review” (a delay) is certain.

Airports / Western European Capitals without direct rail links.

Luxembourg (no rail), Luqa, Malta (no trains at all anywhere on Malta),
Prague (bus to metro link there, is this Western enough)

Doubtless some of the Baltic States also, plus Lisbon, already mentioned.

@dave123 wrote:

I’m sure my children’s children’s will go on the new Atlantic coast Railway when its finally completed. I will have probably already used the new super duper fantastic trans Atlantic highway under the Ocean :rolleyes:

Why wait til then? By all accounts it´ll be open in 2009 – See http://www.atlantictunnel.com/ for further info. At least now we know where Martin E got his advice 😉 , and theres probably as much chance of seeing one completed as there is the other 😀

@hutton wrote:

At a recent talk, Frank Mc D referred to her in terms of (roughly) “ravings of a mad Sth Dublin housewife” – an assessment that I am inclined to share.

Frank McDonald was careful not to mention any names in connection with that characterisation. However, if that’s who you choose to see as being thus described… 😉

All this has a whiff of the ”Bertie Bowl” about it. I would’nt thrust that bloke Cullen after he squandered the 50 million on the unused electronic voting machines. The plan is ambitious and badly needed however.

Ha Ha

The opposition are going to have a field day; Martin’s motorway to Donegal to pick up Jim whilst his licence is suspended. 10 years for a little tunnel in Dublin and a phased metro.

I think it is time to emmigrate

Might be an idea to look hard at the terms of the Guinness bequest of St Stephens Green to the State, and what it might have said about about future usage, if anything.
Well before all this winds up in the High Court, a la Carlton site, Carrickmines etc. Amazing that there is as yet no comments much on the impact of this plan on perhaps the finest square in Ireland.

P.S. The Green park area is managed by OPW – and is in Parlon Country
– is this perhaps part of a plan to achieve decentralisation by making the St Stephens Green area a no go area?

I’ll take a couple of trucks of topsoil from the flowerbeds

just a thought… i find it quite odd the way we still keep our old train carriages. the amount of times i see a dart coming with 4 new carriages and 2 old ones attached or 6 new and 2 old… why can’t they just get rid of the old ones completely and have all new trains? it seems a bit silly. if a job is going to be done it should be done right. people could say that the old ones might be needed for capacity but they should have them all new in my opinion. otherwise what’s the point? just buy enough new carriages and dump the old…. :confused:

I think we are getting carried away with this grand central station, it will be an interchange of two underground lines and a luas. O’Connell Street, similarily, will have an interchange of two luases and a metro and generally the plan is pretty even handed between the north and the south and kinder to the northside universities: dcu and dit than to the southside one, ucd. in point of fact the geographical centre and population centre of dublin is probably somewhere south of the green and everyone knows the real centre of town is college green where i think there will be a luas, metro interchange.