Moore Street Concept

I see your point but it will be changed completely. City Council has guaranteed to move on street traders and most of the properties are owned by a developer.

Whats happening to Moore street?

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@jdivision wrote:

I see your point but it will be changed completely. City Council has guaranteed to move on street traders and most of the properties are owned by a developer.

I knew it when I started my work! but as a designer that is all what I can do! sad! sad!
As a foreigner living in Dublin I do not beleive that giving a modern facade is right way for Dublin’s future. World co-operation and integration be the main route for any country. Dublin’s unique features developed is the cheap and fascinative cleaver idea. Base on the geographic matters Dublin is at on the edge of EU and also A huge “modern” market place in front of here —- London . Do any people want to see the modern style coming here? I do not think so!! immigrants can make the local more life, diversity life, and there is no one country “really keeping eye” on them if Ireland can step towards first or just a little would be benifite for both!!!!

CC I appluad your idealism but JD’s point needs to be further explained; none of these businesses would be in this location if this was not a redevelopment play. The buildings in question would simply be let to High Street multiples and sold on in lots as investments and the land behind these shops would be non-performing and of no benefit to the City.

What we would all love to see is a dedicated China Town with some good Japanese & Vietnamese restaurants as well something along the lines of the area between Leicester Square and Shaftsbury Ave WC1 London being done in Dublin. The way it respects the existing street grain yet is entirely distinctive.

For once I hope the next area / theme selected for an Action Area plan moves away from Museum and Cultural quater and moves towards cultural inclusion as its theme and for once it might just be realistic. Unlike Smithfield, Harp, Docklands, North East Inner City etc etc

Simple way to make it happen elsewhere would be to give 100% occupier municipal rates relief but limit the scale of company turnover to say €1m p.a. to be eligible for such relief. Totally agree on MSG it is the cooking equivelent of Hawkins House!

There was plans for a Chinatown in Smithfield but like all these plans in Dublin it got dropped. If Dublin City Council ever gets its act together the Markets area could be a good place for it, particuarly the Market building itself which could be great as an indoor stall type food place similar to those in Camden Market (albeit most of those are outdoors)

@PTB wrote:

Whats happening to Moore street?

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@jdivision wrote:

There was plans for a Chinatown in Smithfield but like all these plans in Dublin it got dropped. If Dublin City Council ever gets its act together the Markets area could be a good place for it, particuarly the Market building itself which could be great as an indoor stall type food place similar to those in Camden Market (albeit most of those are outdoors)

I think the Covent Garden style proposal for Lysaght’s Fruit Market will work without any specific theming but feel that if the overall area is to see a benefit beyond the obvious attraction of a single building and known demand from the Four Courts then adjoining streets should be brought into play. In the absence of tax breaks the chances are that the Moore Street temporary lets will scatter to the four winds.

Which would be a pity!

I must admit, i walked through Moore Street about 3 weeks ago after not having been there in 8 years (since leaving Bolton St) and i was shocked at the transformation…… the veg sellers there were always intrinsic to the character of Dublin in my opinion, shouts of ‘last a da bananas’ and ‘2 for a pound’ coming back in fond memories…..

… those were da days….

To be replaced by last of the Sushi 1.5 for a score!

Regarding a ‘Chinatown’ in Dublin, there is one naturally accruing on Parnell Street between O’Connell St and Gardiner Street. Maybe if this was further development, making it a Pedestrian zone etc… Just off O’Connell Street so not far for tourists and shoppers etc…and would go well with the Parnell Square scheme (possible Metro stop)

Any thoughts :confused:

@weehamster wrote:

Regarding a ‘Chinatown’ in Dublin, there is one naturally accruing on Parnell Street between O’Connell St and Gardiner Street. Maybe if this was further development, making it a Pedestrian zone etc… Just off O’Connell Street so not far for tourists and shoppers etc…and would go well with the Parnell Square scheme (possible Metro stop)

Any thoughts :confused:

I do not agree that changing Parnell St. as Pedestrian zone because the street is linking east and west direction,
there is not good access in that direction in Dublin city, the traffic routes mainly radiat from city center to surrounding area,no more full circle road linking these radiation roads. if cut off Parnell St. that would make the city center havey traffic and also the Dockland loses a city linking route.
that is my opining !

Yellow : Henry St. and Grafton St.
Green: Parnell St.

By Chao Chen

I am a Chinese personally I do like “Chinatown” in the City center,but base on the general urban planning,I think the “Chinatown” should be a drafting thing as one of the city infrastructure, which means “Chinatown” is a service for some zone, this service could be urban transport,public park,tourist point,coultral zone……..
the general function of “Chinatown” is still supporting the City. if “Dublin Chinatown” same as the one in other country I think that lose meaning. Because first It still called “town” is not called “Show case” or “Commercial Zone”……. if we develop it as a “town” so the “town” must has some same function to march together. For eg. the “Chinatown” in London its commercial show or called “Chinese business show ” out of thier working time the “town” is “no life”. ans a very inportant thing is Chinese culture is not only “food culture” it sames there is not only “River dance” in Ireland!
forgive my English if you read with difficult!

section through No.16 the relation ship between new and existing structures:)

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it is a basic concept for “China town”. I did put much thinking on the “town” linking with the City then try to Satisfy
the urban service, to lower down the “Chinatown” as a “show case” . trying to turn this project as part of the city service. it is only an initial concept shows in this diagram. City nomarlly expand in horizontal and vertical direction
but in this case the “Chinatown” feet into the city’s “gap” to asisst the city service, the space would be taken as over hanging ….. undering……. connecting……. etc. that is my goal or solution for the “Irish China Town”

By Chao Chen

the CIAI is charity professional group not commercial promotion!:) 😡

CIAI

Are you suggesting an underground retail environment?

I understand that most retail in Japan is subterranean and has something to do with the Japanese female propensity to avoid sunlight and preserve skin from the effects of sun-aging.

I am interested to know if you are proposing something similar here and I further look forward to assessing the Japanese retail model later in the year! 😉

@ciai wrote:

I do not agree that changing Parnell St. as Pedestrian zone because the street is linking east and west direction,
there is not good access in that direction in Dublin city, the traffic routes mainly radiat from city center to surrounding area,no more full circle road linking these radiation roads. if cut off Parnell St. that would make the city center havey traffic and also the Dockland loses a city linking route.
that is my opining !

Yellow : Henry St. and Grafton St.
Green: Parnell St.

Im inclined to agree with you CIAI – and I am not generally predisposed to cars over pedestrrians in the inner–urban environment. However I think your analysis is fairly on the money; apart from anything Parnell St is also part of DCC’s inner orbital route traffic system.

Some interesting ideas here. Re no.16, I presume you are aware that it is scheduled as a National Monument?

concept of Moore St. as a cultural street.:)
By Chao chen

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a traditional Chinese shop front
Drawn and design by Chao Chen:) 🙂 🙂

concept feasibility study on the situation
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