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older public lights can be connected above ground with a common switch wire. To underground might mean replacing the pole… Also – Dublin has alot more overground electricity than you’d think – this isn’t the UK.
Originally posted by d_d_dallas
Dublin has alot more overground electricity than you’d think – this isn’t the UK.Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of overground electricity. Look at this pic of Woodbine Road:
This wouldn’t be so bad if it was a rural village on the West coast, but for a residential area in the capital city – it’s a sign that there is corruption somewhere….
Originally posted by BulldozerGirl
This wouldn’t be so bad if it was a rural village on the West coast, but for a residential area in the capital city – it’s a sign that there is corruption somewhere….lol… yeah thats it
Just on that point lads,… because it is a good one… the Dublin traffic lately in the mornings did resemble something like rush hour after Sunday mass in a small village in Bally-go-backwards…. than the usual Dublin traffic which people are most used to.
I still think that providing ways for kids to get to school, somehow, other than driving through the traffic in moms back seat…. is going to be the answer in Dublin… I mean, look at a picture like that… you would probably get soaking wet before you reached the end of that road, not to mind getting to the local school this morning in the rain.
If things were denser, it would be much more efficient to run public transport systems… I think this point was raised quite well in the LUAS threads here at Archiseek.
It’s definitely quieter alright.
I had the privilege to speak to John Henry of the DTO about this.
He says kiddie traffic constitutes a whopping quarter of the city’s traffic in the morning – at least!
But interestingly the Office (who essentially plan the city’s transportation) really don’t blame parents for driving their kids to school, they acknowledge how dangerous the city is now for children, mingling with busy roads and being hassled by weirdos etc.
They fully accept that children under 10 or even 12 shouldn’t be cycling or walking alone, esp in the dark winter.
But they are trying out walking bus programmes where parents take it in turns to gather kids up in the mornings and walk them all to school. Other aspects they want to implement are better pedestrian crossings and public lighting, for kids who live closer to school and who can walk or cycle.
Certainly more buses for the ‘in betweens’ are need though.It’s interesting, something that’s perhaps even evident on this site, is that out of the 8,820 teenagers cycling in Dublin (almost exclusively to school) 8200 are male, with a pathethic 620 female.
Going by that figure alone, and factoring in that maybe more girls walk to school (unlikely) there’s at least another 7000 girls capable of cycling to school – not even accounting for the vast hoards that are in cars either way!Sorry for hijacking Bulldozergirl – keep the pics rolling.
I think the power lines in the suburbs, esp around Crumlin and Templogue and Terenure are kind of charming, kinda homely and communityish!yeah cycling is definitely the way to go. It’s a great way of linking up to public tranport as well. Lots of people drive to dart stations for example. Try cycling that mile or 2, great way of getting a bit of fresh air. It’s a shame more offices don’t have changing and shower facilities to encourage people to cycle to work aswell. As for the fairer sex not cycling well I think a lot of them think its a bit of a sweaty business, might ruin their hair etc.
I am scared of driving on the roads here because they’re so narrow, bumpy, and there are too many double decker buses – there is no way a sane person (most women are sane) would want to cycle on these roads. And anto is right; it’s not good for the hair, and you can’t carry shopping bags on it, so why bother?
I don’t think children should be allowed to use public buses, because I’ve seen many who do, and they only take up all the seats in the bus and ruin everything for non-school passengers. The danger posed for school children who walk is greatly exaggerated. The SAVI report said that the majority of child abuse is from relatives of the child, not from strangers. How far are the schools from home anyway? They should force them all to use a school bus.
Anyway, here’s a pic of Deansgrange business park:
OK, I know it’s a bit boring, but it’s the only worthwhile thing I saw on my short trip. It’s not really that special but the location is fantastic. The people there have a wonderful view. It’s a classier place than those silly Georgian building offices in Leeson or wherever else in Dublin, who think they’re all that. I don’t like these old brown buildings which make the whole city look the same.
phil – I was looking for the Art Deco house today; it disappeared!
garethace – I never understand what you say.
Paul Clerkin – Congrats on the new wider forum layout. We will save many pages.
But interestingly the Office (who essentially plan the city’s transportation) really don’t blame parents for driving their kids to school, they acknowledge how dangerous the city is now for children, mingling with busy roads and being hassled by weirdos etc.
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I agree, lets just ‘roll over’ and just let those ‘weirdos’ have the public domain, which is the city all to ’em selves eh? 🙂
Seriously though, I haven’t a child or nothing has ever happened to a child of mine…. my co-worker has three though…. and judging by the amount of ‘hassle’ he has with even simple things every hour and every day of the week… I can ‘kinda’ see where you are coming from.
However, some of these drivers driving to schools are trying to get out of suburban estates, onto ‘major’ commuting arterties,… only to exit 5 minutes down the road again,… and que up with another 50 cars leading up to a school gate or something like that…. then the said mother/father repeats this whole process except often in reverse this time…. so that they can get back to their suburban estate and meet ‘Bernie and Jossie’ for tea and pies at 9.30am and a good old chat on the sitting room couch, while the washing machine and dish washer does the work in the kitchen…. by then… it is time to start thinking about ‘collecting’ the kids again!
it is this nature of the way a car carrying kids to school behaves, which makes it cause that many problems I think to general ‘people going to work’ kinda traffic. Noone is going to tell me…. there isn’t some other way… to hell with weirdos… I am not really sure who are the weirdos and who are not anymore to be honest…. the kids who grow up like this have absolutely no sense of their own independence…. and grow up ‘hating’ their own parents for being so over-protective and over-bearing upon them as kids and their personal space…. they do not actually thank the parents for it.
The point is, that in other more well planned, higher density urban environments…. things like LUAS actually become things, which the kids can grow up with and become very familiar with… and learn to trust and to ‘know’…. as all the other kids do. I mean, nowadays… the only highway that kids in Dublin city are beginning to know and trust unfortunately is the information super highway…. and we all know what this leads to…. all kids get carted back and forth from schools nowadays… have computer and broadband connectivity and I think end up… to much in these little ‘computer cell worlds’ both at home/school/university…. where you can really meet the ‘weirdos’….
Modern housing design trends…
http://www.planetizen.com/news/item.php?id=12711
Brian O’ Hanlon.
Here is one miscellaneous pic, which I think is worth posting…
http://www.cyburbia.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4915&password=&sort=1&size=big&cat=508&page=
Good pic.
It’s important to point out it’s young children the office speaks of, the likes of whom everyone gives out about seeing in the back of Mammy’s four by four, who’s feet can’t even touch the ground, and who feature in every car ad.
They don’t blame these parents for bringing these kids in the car if the distance is over 10/15 mins, and nor would I.Also of note, and probably the most important factor that you mention Brian, and the DTO, is that it all fuels car dependency with kids growing up thinking the car’s the only way.
All of this ties into the DTOs vast brief of planning transport that is fundamentally linked into planning as a whole, higher densities etc.
BDG, that’s classier than silly Georgians – or indeed anything else for that matter?
Ok…what is their web site?
I mean, for myself and those other posters who aren’t aware of who/what/where/when/how….. in relation to DTO…
Talking of environment/health/school transport etc, etc…. I am sure I am not alone in this experience either…. but when I attended a comprehensive down the country about a decade ago now, we had to endure an hour long bus journey each and every morning/evening of our lives….. which basically went all over the landscape to various little bungalows collecting the kids who lived in them.
Now, it is very topical at the moment to talk about smoking and how secondary smoking can damage the health of those working in pubs…. but I was a non-smoker going to school and still am thankfully…. but for every day of those five years I did attend the secondary school, for a full hour to and from school every day…. I was in a bus designed to transport around 50 or 60 students I think, which instead carried about 100,…. or which 70/80 of them smoked!
I.e. Everyone except the youngest first years… I can tell you one thing,… when the bus reached its destination at the school in the mornings… one could not see from one end of the bus to the other, the air was so laden with smoke. This is no exaggeration, or embelishment of the truth. It is just funny how that was ‘tolerated’ 10 years ago in Ireland, while today, 50/60/70 year old regular pub go-ers cannot even sit back at weekends and enjoy their smoke/drink with their buddies,… in some well ventilated area of a local pub.
Brian.
P.S. Nice pics of a new design for a train station/park n’ ride type of thing here:
Originally posted by BulldozerGirl
OK, I know it’s a bit boring, but it’s the only worthwhile thing I saw on my short trip. It’s not really that special but the location is fantastic. The people there have a wonderful view. It’s a classier place than those silly Georgian building offices in Leeson or wherever else in Dublin, who think they’re all that. I don’t like these old brown buildings which make the whole city look the same.Re: Comments on system built close to Bakers corner:
It’s called economy class
Really I think any new building in the city is a welcome sight. It freshens the rotten place up a bit. Georgian buildings are depressing, especially brown ones. I don’t have any pics of a typical nasty all-brown street right now because it was raining today and I couldn’t get any.
As for public transport and health, I have noticed that the back seats of Dublin buses usually smell of urine and are hot when you sit on them. It seems that drunk people prefer a place where the driver can’t see them.
Tried to insert an image of Upper Mount St, but my new computer of 1999 has aged badly, a little like shiny low spec buildings perhaps?
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Originally posted by BulldozerGirl
OK, I know it’s a bit boring, but it’s the only worthwhile thing I saw on my short trip. It’s not really that special but the location is fantastic. The people there have a wonderful view. It’s a classier place than those silly Georgian building offices in Leeson or wherever else in Dublin, who think they’re all that. I don’t like these old brown buildings which make the whole city look the same.phil – I was looking for the Art Deco house today; it disappeared!
garethace – I never understand what you say.
Paul Clerkin – Congrats on the new wider forum layout. We will save many pages.
Bulldozer Girl:
I don’t want to cause any offence or anthing, but I really am confused by your chain of thought here! Could you explain what it is you are trying to say?phil – I am trying to say I find the city to be old, brown and depressing. Any new-looking building makes me feel better. Graham Hickey’s pic sums up what Dublin looks like in general:
Coming up next time hopefully.. cracked sidewalks.
Phil,
It reads a bit like, Dubai is a glitzy, shiny, new and tall paradise risen out of the sand and Dublin is silly, brown and old and soooo
boring……..only messin’ around with ya b’girl, it’s always good to hear the opinions of foreign residents on our infra-structure.Thanks for the pic Graham, the one I was trying to post was taken from the doorway of No 1 Upper Mount St and takes in the Shiny New Cresent Hall. Do you have any pics of the deco garage it replaced?
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