millenium bridge damage
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- September 27, 2003 at 9:06 pm #736150
colinsky
ParticipantOriginally posted by Graham Hickey
An especially fine detached townhouse to the left of the civic offices set back from the quay that I never saw before.…this one?
On the corner of Essex Street West (R) stands the oldest surviving private residence in Dublin, believed to date from the 17th century. The house had to be shored up with timber after the demolition of neighbouring buildings in the 1980s.
September 28, 2003 at 2:00 am #736151Anonymous
Inactivethe flag poles & especially the lamp posts smack of the 80’s & should be replaced, they look awful …
September 28, 2003 at 10:41 am #736152Paul Clerkin
KeymasterThose flagpoles are there a long time, as far back as I can remember… Any idea when they went up? I quite like them especially on a breezy day…
September 29, 2003 at 8:50 am #736153shadow
ParticipantThe “hole” in the bridge plate is not a drill hole. It is a puncture. That aside, I find that the assesment procedures in competitions (Ireland) tend not to be rigorous enough or tailored to deal with the issues in depth or even shift in principle to suit the assesors.
September 29, 2003 at 12:37 pm #736154GrahamH
ParticipantIt dosn’t look like a drill hole alright…
The flags look great but not the poles.
The date no earlier than 1970 anyway.Colinsky – the house isn’t on a corner, it’s set back a bit from the quay with a bit of scrub/park and a small road infront between it and the quay.
The facade at least – is late 18th century.September 29, 2003 at 12:47 pm #736155Anonymous
Inactivejust to clarify … I think the flags themselves look great, esp. when looking up or down the river, the poles though are fairly scruffy at this stage.
The cheap lamp posts should be replaced, half of which don’t work and the ones that do give out a miserable amount of light.
September 29, 2003 at 12:49 pm #736156GregF
ParticipantI used to detest those lights and flagpoles too along the quays……hoping that a more retro traditional style would be apt…..But not now; especially when Henry Street has been upgraded with a more contemporary style of street furniture as well as O Connell Street to follow suit (and also the upgrade of Capel Street bridge)
I think now that the lights and flagpoles are very apt and fitting…..maybe if the lights emitted more light…and colourful flags/bannners were hung from the flagpoles more often, it would be a marked improvement.September 29, 2003 at 7:56 pm #736157GrahamH
ParticipantOf course they’re fitting, they just need replacing, not because they’re old, because they were crappy from the moment they went up.
London makes such an effort with it’s bridges, and the lighting along the quays – all linked up with chains of twinkly lights, and Dublin is tiny in comparison.
Its hardly difficult to execute something attractive along Dublin’s quays, especially considering that because its so small the improvements would be dramatic.September 29, 2003 at 9:45 pm #736158Paul Clerkin
KeymasterOriginally posted by Graham Hickey
Colinsky – the house isn’t on a corner, it’s set back a bit from the quay with a bit of scrub/park and a small road infront between it and the quay.
The facade at least – is late 18th century.Is this it?
http://www.archeire.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/templebar/essex_quay/house.htmlCurrently starring as the priest’s house in “Strumpet City” – but now a language school.
September 30, 2003 at 12:00 pm #736159GrahamH
ParticipantSpot on!
And what a distinguished pile it is – somewhat unusual in that it’s detached – it really shows what conservation can contribute to a city.
I recongnise it as the priest’s house now!
Poor old Henrietta St is’nt shown in its best light as ‘Chandlers Court’ in the programme, interesting to see how these houses were used as tenements though.
And the opening shot has a fantastic view of the long-lost St Georges Wren spire – indeed the first time I’ve seen it with the exception of an old photo.September 30, 2003 at 12:19 pm #736160GregF
ParticipantThe vandalism of the new bridge is disgraceful as well as the slack maintenance……but surely the grid surface should be easily replaceable as part of the design.
September 30, 2003 at 4:37 pm #736161el architino
Participantif people had listened to EL ARCHITINO in the first place instead of these howling harrignton characters, the milenium bridge would not be the disgrace presented to us today.
EL ARCHITINO’s entry to the competition did not even make the shortlist due to the short-sighted-ness of the jury.
taking as its concept divine phenomenalogical experience and stopping the colloquial dublin “nacker” from wrecking the bridge, the structure manifests itself as a solid mass of brick wedged in the river. as it is an impervious mass through which no water may pass it also functions as a dam (should one be needed ).
each of the bricks would be made from diomands dipped in platinum covered with brick dust (showing EL ARCHITINO’s interest in the unseen).EL ARCHITINO demands that the current bridge be ripped down and this, more suitable structure be erected poste haste.
September 30, 2003 at 5:09 pm #736162Paul Clerkin
Keymasterrofl… love your drawings
September 30, 2003 at 5:26 pm #736163el architino
ParticipantEL ARCHITINO’s linguistics department has informed him that the word rofl is not farmiliar to them..
EL ARCHITINO thanks you for the praise of his visuals but would remind you these are not simply drawings but a composite of maya, autocad, photoshop and many unreleased render plug-in packages which accentuate the photorealism of the imagesOctober 1, 2003 at 6:34 pm #736164Niall
ParticipantWalked over the Millenium Bridge in London this morning, guy on a cleaner/mower chemically cleaning the hard metal walking surface and a guy walking in front sweeping debris up!!!
Now that’s what I would call a clean.
Funny, as you approach it, there is a sign saying HSBC Bank gates, I wondered do they sponsor it and what a good idea if they pay for its upkeep?
I also notice they surface is way tougher than the Dublin one and no stupid lights underfoot, they are under the bridge and to its side, i.e PRACTICAL.
October 2, 2003 at 10:09 am #736165Anonymous
Inactivewhat a good idea, pity there is no such intelligence among the authorities here (although if we get el archatino elected things might happen!). i think dublin city council should sponser it since its thier job to clean it anyway.
i was walking across dublin’s millenium bridge this morning and saw that a piece of chewing gum had almost fully covered up the hole in the deck! urban renewal irish style..
October 2, 2003 at 11:20 am #736166bluefoam
ParticipantOriginally posted by Niall
I also notice they surface is way tougher than the Dublin one and no stupid lights underfoot, they are under the bridge and to its side, i.e PRACTICAL.In my opinion, the great design elements are the modernisation of the Hlpenny Bridge concept. Though technology they have been able to reverse some of the traits of the original bridge, while maintaining a visable relationship. E.g. Where on the old bridge the lights needed to be structurally supported overhead, on the new one they are reversed and placed in the paving. The old bridge needed to have a high arched back in order to support itself, the new bridge has a more shollow arch due to advancements in material strenghts & manufacturing techniques.
I love the new bridge, it is a truely modern rendition of the original.
October 2, 2003 at 11:49 am #736167Anonymous
Inactivei also think that the bridge is a nice, sophisticated counterpart to the ha’penny(if a bit tame, and the curvey stone abutments are quite rancid) but this is not the point. the point is that the materials are not sufficiantly strong and some of the less obvious designing (relating to durability and cleanliness) has been overlooked.
as far as i am aware it was designed by howley harrington, is anyone posting from their office? is that unfair,would you like to stand up for the design maybe?
October 2, 2003 at 7:05 pm #736168GrahamH
ParticipantWhatever about the material underfoot, the design of this metal – ie it being ribbed – is silly, an inevitable dirt-trap.
The Ha’penny Bridge has been cleaned – should point it out considering the many complaints here of its condition just weeks after reopening.
The dirt is building already and could do with another in a few weeks.Does anyone else find it astonishing the cheapness of the finish underfoot on the Ha’penny considering the tens of thousands spent on its restoration.
All that was done was bog-standard tarmac poured and concrete kerbs laid as steps.
Not even a coloured asphalt or similar material was used.October 6, 2003 at 11:04 am #736169Harry
ParticipantAlso on the subject of damage to bridges, has anyone seen the state of the James Joyce bridge lately?
The practice of climbing the arch now seems to be a thing of the past, but the benches are now occupied by groups of street drinkers most days. They have the place wrecked!. The whole of the pedestrian walkways are in dire need of a powerwash to rid the place of urine/vommit/godknowswhatelse.
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