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  • #721187
    Simon
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    Ah well …… thank God they started the Port Tunnel .. they have to finish it…they can’t stop now… especially with our minister in a hurry !!

    #721188
    urbanisto
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    I thought we were rolling in it? Didnt McCreevy say we were one of the wealthiest countries ever in the whole history of the world all because of his excellent management of the ecomony and that all those gobshites in Europe who didnt know a good thing when they saw it could take a jump….

    I wonder what happened….

    Still at least we’ll have the Port Tunnel – thats true. And a lovely new terminal at Dublin Airport courtsey of that great Irish philanthropist, Michael O’Leary. Oh and a C ring road around Dublin (never mind that auld castle)

    #721189
    brunel
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    Well if they ditch plans for the Metro then looks like we’ll all continue to complain about the transport problem for the next 20years…

    Living in Stockholm now, a city with a pretty decent transport system and stats show that during peak periods 7 out of 10 passengers use public transport to the inner city !! And the Metro is central to this – in fact all the other bus and suburban trains work off it, ie connect to it at relevant points…

    From personal experience, I’ve found out that you just cannot beat the Metro when going from A to B even when taking the bus on a similar route in quiet traffic…

    A metro is the only way to move numbers in mass in the city centre quickly and efficiently… Why can’t they see this !!

    #721190
    brunel
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    Just to add, the company in charge of the transport system in Stockholm proudly claim that “almost” half of its costs are paid for via income from ticket sales !! Almost Half !! So expecting CIE/Dublin to make a profit every year is just a joke…

    #721191
    Papworth
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    While stuck in Dublin’s gridlocked floodlocked traffic for 3 hours yesterday evening and only trying to travel less than 4 miles I tried to amuse myself by surfing the radio stations. All I could hear at home was Mc Creevey and his cutbacks and in particular the news that the Luas will be late and may not run (with passengers) until 2004 into 2005 never mind the fact that Metro is in the bin. I switched to BBC Radio 4s PM news programme for a break from Mc Creevey and Brennan’s excuses only to hear a news item on New Delhi’s Metro system which was “progressing at a furious rate” it makes an interesting read.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2264358.stm

    #721192
    fjp
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    I can only presume that they just don’t care. The only hope for Dublin transport is if terrorists take Bertie hostage and threaten to kill him unless he actually makes a meaningful effort to sort this out. If only terrorists were that thoughtful…

    So once again – if they’re not going to build a metro, QBC’s everywhere, frequent busses all the time. Let the traffic sit there and work it out while the busses roll by in complete freedom. They won’t make money but we’ll all be really happy.

    fjp

    (these opinions my own etc)

    #721193
    Rory W
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    Actually looking at ther book of estimates (sounds biblical doesn’t it) and given our financial situation the country could and should borrow a few billion to invest in infrastructure -not wages, health, social welfare etc – infrastructure alone. Theres should be an infrastructure agency created as well. Although this would involve thing beyond the next five minutes…

    #721194
    Niall
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    Jesus Christ…. The Indians can do it, the Albanians (no offence to them) will be next. Any chance of them coming over here and binning the DTO, RPA, Transport department, Light Rail office and CIE? Why so many quangos,and what do they all do at the taxpayers expense?

    Free flights and good pay for anyone who wants to build this mickey mouse country a metro……..

    I also hear the Athens metro is coming along nicely too…

    #721195
    J. Seerski
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    I even hear Kabul is finishing a metro…:eek:

    #721196
    J. Seerski
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    Also, I have to ask, what was the point if all these DTO’s, CIE’s DEPT. Transport etc. etc., yadi yah, blah, blah. Do they go on like: “Oh, I’m a transport consultant, I think we should build a metro from Donegal to Bantry. Cost? Billions! But just for telling you this I will charge you €500 million. Great! You’re not building it then?! Told you so!” GRRRRR…..:mad: 😡 😡

    #721197
    Rory W
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    No government has the balls to do anything with infrastructure – they just keep farming it out to cosultants to look at whilst the price skyrockets. Any fool could tell you you need to bypass bottlenecks on roads, its just common sense. What do the palanning department of the Department of Transport do all day?

    To the government I challenge you – come on build the motorways – build the rail lines you have a fucking 20 seat majority what more do you want???

    #721198
    dc3
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    ” QBC’s everywhere, frequent busses all the time.”

    And 24 hour bus lanes served with buses only in daytime, such as the airport road.
    Oh, we have that already.

    Been in Prgue recently, World War II, 40 years of Communism, a Hundred Year flood and still better public transport now than Dublin has. Still a 9% increase in fares will take the commuter out of the car.

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