Macken St Bridge – Santiago Calatrava
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@jdivision wrote:
http://www.tribune.ie/business/news/article/2009/dec/06/sitting-on-the-dock-of-the-bay/
One source said he believed that development levies paid towards the (linear) park had been ringfenced for that purpose but the authority’s view is different. “The board of the authority is currently reviewing options for the linear park which may include scaling back plans given our current financial situation. Income to the authority in the form of levies is not earmarked for specific project use but is allocated across all area and social regeneration projects,” a spokesman said last week.As a student in a group arranged by our lecturer we attended the Smithfield Oral Hearing and the one point I remember from that hearing was the frustration expressed by Tom Phillips then at Frank L Benson as to the practice of a local authority maximising developer contributions for ‘specific works’ which would enhance the specific local environment to a very attractive one benefiting borh the development and local residents alike. Then once the consent was secured and development levies discharged often into the millions the same local authority would overrule their planners with the same ‘specific funds’ to disapear into the ‘general budget’.
If Dublin is to go down the FDR route of public amenity infrastructure as a fiscal stimulus that is one thing but to leave the North Docklands with anything other than the best possible master plan in the context of the scale of the NAMA ownerships down there and the requirement to develop the area to ensure viability for the Dart Underground scheme would be incredibly retrograde. I am very dispointed to read this article as one would have expected a lot more lucidity from someone with the intellect of Niamh Brennan.
Drove the bridge on my commute this morning.
Just can’t see the purpose. I live southside, work northside. It should be ideal for my commute. Yet due to the various traffic restrictions I have no way of making the bridge work. There is no right turn to the port tunnel, nor is there a right turn on Seville Pl to connect with the Malahide Road.
So the question is who exactly is going to use it? And what bus routes could possibly use it given the crazy restrictions?
@Service charge wrote:
Drove the bridge on my commute this morning.
Just can’t see the purpose. I live southside, work northside. It should be ideal for my commute. Yet due to the various traffic restrictions I have no way of making the bridge work. There is no right turn to the port tunnel, nor is there a right turn on Seville Pl to connect with the Malahide Road.
So the question is who exactly is going to use it? And what bus routes could possibly use it given the crazy restrictions?
agree with you 100% SC. I have to get to drumcondra from pearse street. the no right turn onto the quays makes no sense at all. i’ll take a spin down on a sunday morning to have a proper look.
Getting on to the bridge from the Northside is also very difficult. You cannot turn left on to it from either the quays or from Sheriff Street so effectively it’s not meant for anybody using the Tunnel or the Ports. The only access seems to be directly down from Seville Place.
BigJoe, you are able to turn right onto Pearse Street from Macken Street.
Seems a bit of a mess and even when I was there on Sunday – with very limited traffic around – there were pretty bad tailbacks forming. Any idea if it is helping improve Pearse Street from a surface car park on week nights?I have been pouring over google maps trying to figure an easy way to make it work. It just doesn’t.
How do they expect this bridge to remove anything but a token amount of traffic from the city.
Matt Talbot bridge is one of the cities notorious traffic black spots. You have the north quays east bound, Gardiner St, Amiens St, Abbey St and the North quays west bound all feeding onto one bridge.
The traffic also has to cross on this bridge meaning trucks and buses from the port constantly block the bridge for traffic heading over matt talbot towards ringsend.
This bridge should be filtering traffic coming from the port tunnel and port away from matt talbot and also relieving Amiens and Gardiner St of some traffic.
Dublin Cycling Campaign discuss the bridge:
just got this tweet from John Neary in the livedrive studios in the traffic control centre in response to a question asking what was the point of the bridge.
“LiveDrive
@bigjoe_dub It’s really helping with Eastlink & Pearse so far, good option in & out of IFSC too. Next few months will tell how much it helps”another good thing about this bridge is that, if you are southside and stand in the right place, it almost totally obliterates that utter abject mind bogglingly awful conference centre.
@bigjoe wrote:
agree with you 100% SC. I have to get to drumcondra from pearse street. the no right turn onto the quays makes no sense at all. i’ll take a spin down on a sunday morning to have a proper look.
It’s a direct journey…
pearse street, macken st, bridge, guild st, seville place, portland row, ncr, dorset street, drumcondra.It has to be arranged to dissuade eastlink bridge traffic, otherwise it will just suck up all the toll dodgers and congest the city centre with traffic that previously skirted along east wall rd and sandymount strand.
It’s going to be hard to put double deck buses across it with all the low bridges from the DART line. There might be a market for a route that crosses the DART line at Merrion Gates.
@Frank Taylor wrote:
It’s a direct journey…
pearse street, macken st, bridge, guild st, seville place, portland row, ncr, dorset street, drumcondra.It has to be arranged to dissuade eastlink bridge traffic, otherwise it will just suck up all the toll dodgers and congest the city centre with traffic that previously skirted along east wall rd and sandymount strand.
It’s going to be hard to put double deck buses across it with all the low bridges from the DART line. There might be a market for a route that crosses the DART line at Merrion Gates.
thanks Frank. might try it this evening.
just in from DCC.
http://www.dublincity.ie/Press/PressReleases/PressReleasesDecember2009/Pages/NewTrafficInformationServicetoaidmotorists.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterNew Traffic Information Service to aid motorists
Dublin City Council’s Roads and Traffic Department are playing a key role in a new Traffic Information Service to aid motorists in finding the best routes to take throughout the City. The RDS-TMC (Traffic Message Channel) technology will be demonstrated on Wednesday 16th December in the Wood Quay Venue of the Dublin City Council Offices, Wood Quay, Dublin at 11am.
The TMC service will be available to users of enabled satellite navigation devices and integrated car navigation systems. Unlike existing traffic bulletins, TMC messages will appear on the user’s satellite navigation device and will not only show the nature of a traffic problem when it occurs but will also show its exact location while also providing an alternative route to avoid the traffic issue and reach the desired destination. Other information such as weather warnings will also be included to make motorists aware of possible dangerous road conditions.
The Traffic Control Centre at the City Council will be the main source of traffic information for Dublin. With access to more than 200 cameras, direct contact with the Gardai, feedback from Dublin Bus and members of the public, the City Council has the most accurate and up to the minute picture of Dublin City traffic.
Brendan O’Brien, Head of Technical Services, DCC Traffic Division, commented, “this service adds to the existing channels that Dublin City Council use to provide traffic information to the public, such as the dedicated radio station “Live Drive†103.2FM and the SMS and e-mail traffic alert system provided at http://www.dublinregionaltraffic.ie “
To reserve a place at this demonstration please e-mail niall.bolger@dublincity.ie
@Frank Taylor wrote:
It’s a direct journey…
pearse street, macken st, bridge, guild st, seville place, portland row, ncr, dorset street, drumcondra.It has to be arranged to dissuade eastlink bridge traffic, otherwise it will just suck up all the toll dodgers and congest the city centre with traffic that previously skirted along east wall rd and sandymount strand.
It’s going to be hard to put double deck buses across it with all the low bridges from the DART line. There might be a market for a route that crosses the DART line at Merrion Gates.
Fuck the tolls.
Common sense and traffic management should come before the greed of tolls.
@dave123 wrote:
Fuck the tolls.
Common sense and traffic management should come before the greed of tolls.
Nice paradox Dave, use of a profanity and an appeal for common sense in the same statement. Hey you’re not a member of the Green Parliamentary Party by any chance, are you?
@foremanjoe wrote:
Nice paradox Dave, use of a profanity and an appeal for common sense in the same statement. Hey you’re not a member of the Green Parliamentary Party by any chance, are you?
No are you….
I can understand not wanting to take away from the Eastlink.
However it doesn’t make any sense to frustrate people trying to get from south to Malahide Road, Coast Road areas. A right turn off seville place or right turn off the bridge to the tunnel/east wall road/alfie byrne road would enable a lot of traffic to use the tunnel.
At the moment it is only useful to get to the airport (accept for the tunnel) and NCR.
Meanwhile Matt Talbot is still a mess every evening.
I also like the way there is no bus lane up to the bridge, yet there is one on the bridge.
I would now like to withdraw my previous statement and apologise to the forum for the use of unforumlike language.
@Service charge wrote:
I can understand not wanting to take away from the Eastlink.
I don’t.
Since O’Connnell bridge and all the others right up to Eastlink is congested, there is really no sympathy given to toll operators. Feck them totally. It’s time we stop using money as our god and start re gaining common sense. Safety and common sense should become before the illogic of the toll operators wanting more money.
@dave123 wrote:
You have serious issues, which needs to be dealt with……:rolleyes:
Lighten up dave123.
And maybe read a newspaper.
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