m50 and our motorways
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Rory W.
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- June 28, 2003 at 10:23 pm #731634
notjim
Participantand are you on your own for these three hours?
June 29, 2003 at 1:10 pm #731635WillC
ParticipantNo I’m not actually. sorry to ruin your theory
June 29, 2003 at 2:56 pm #731636kefu
ParticipantThe real problem with the M50 is that it isn’t a real ring road. It only rings about half of the city (and I’m not talking about the unfinished segment). Too many Dublin residents have to cross it to go to work or town as a matter of course. The obvious solution is to start a new ring road another ten miles out, past Tallaght, past Blanchardstown, past Lucan and so on.
The interchanges are also a disaster. People talk about increasing the M50 to three lanes either side (which is feasible). But it would be pointless unless capacity at the interchanges is improved upon.
June 29, 2003 at 3:10 pm #731637Anonymous
InactiveAbout a year ago, I saw plans on the Nra’s site to eliminate all roundabout interchanges on the M50, can’t seem to find them anywhere now though … does anyone else remember seeing them ?
June 30, 2003 at 9:44 am #731638Andrew Duffy
ParticipantHere’s some of them, culled from various PDFs on the NRA’s website:
M50-N4

M50-N3

M50-Ballymun
June 30, 2003 at 2:06 pm #731639Anonymous
Inactivecool, thanks Andrew, nothing for the Red Cow ?? suppose it would have to be revised now anyway to incorporate a flyover for luas and to facilitate cars getting in to the park and ride at the depot …
do you know if these plans have been shelved ?? they’re going to have to implement them sooner or later, especially at the red cow …
June 30, 2003 at 2:46 pm #731640Andrew Duffy
ParticipantThe M50 2×3 lane upgrade and the N4 junction (look – a real interchange!) are in planning:
http://www.nra.ie/RoadSchemeActivity/MajorRoadSchemesinPlanning/
Incidentally, even though the second M50 toll bridge has yet to open, it is currently being used by traffic while the dividing wall is removed from the older bridge. This means the near-suicidal merge required when changing from N4 Eastbound to M50 Northbound will still be required; I thought the wall would have made a good speed seperation like you see in the USA or Australia.
June 30, 2003 at 2:48 pm #731641Andrew Duffy
ParticipantOh, the N2 and N7 ones are “through statutory approval”, which I think means out of planning:
http://www.nra.ie/RoadSchemeActivity/NationalPrimaryRoadSchemesthroughStatutoryApprovalProcess/
June 30, 2003 at 5:07 pm #731642Rory W
ParticipantMmmm spagetti
Amazing how every piece of infrastructure buiilt in this country has to be fixed after a few years. There is such a short term view of things – get it in at a reasonable budget and sure if it doesn’t work we’ll fix it at a later date.
Bet you anything the junctions on the final section are going to be done in the cheap and cheerful manner of the rest only to be done properly a few years down the line.
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