Luas, Metro and DART – Drawings and Photomontages

I am saying the “gaps” will mostly remain and added to that (for most current DART users… including me)

Evidence?

will be a lengthy interchange time, both ways.

150m down an escalator……

The only section of the network where all trains currently travel is between the Royal and Grand Canal’s; by diverting all northbound DARTS via the interconnector tunnel 30-40% of traffic is removed from this constrained environment and given access to the key commercial and civic zones in the City. You are the first person in this forum to ever complain at having the ability to have a direct service to Stephens Green instead of Tara Street, Christchurch instead of Connolly.

4 tracking the northern line is a worthy medium term objective, however getting a luas line to the airport would be a greater priority along with some other public transport projects such as Metro West either built as Dart spurs or Luas feeding into Luas North.

So you support the service then?

In employment density and retail intensity terms Stephens Green is the centre of the City; distances may for the pruposes of maps be measured from the GPO but that reflects historic and out of date development patterns as against where people travel to most.

I think you will find electrificiation to Maynooth is on the cards within or a couple of years after the interconnector completes. Electrification to Maynooth won’t be too far behind nor will electrification to Balbriggan and staggering station calls between Connolly/Spencer Dock and Howth Junction something along the lines of

Dart

IC
Clontarf Rd
Killester
Raheny
Howth Junction

Northern Line

Connolly
Clontarf Rd
Harmonstown
Kilbarrick
Howth Junction

Would speed up Dart, slow down Northern Commuter and allow passengers from Dart and Northern Commuter to interchange at Clontarf Road to whichever routing they wanted.

As the country moves from the ripping itself apart in the media phase to the time to rebuild under a new administration phase; money will be tight and and only must have projects built; I more than anyone would love to see the exchequer position swapping places with the Singapore Finance ministry (not that they would ever end up with any fiscal deficit beyond a single year) but that is not going to happen any time soon.

3 minute headways with Darts speeded up and outer commuters slowed down would be a very very dramatic improvement on current services which are auwful. Blind confidence in the future is inviting a very bad end and being seen to plan for new projects at this time would be just that, the bond hawks certainly have not gone away; careful and meticulous planning has the potential to deliver progress; Dublin Underground is the key piece of investment in the Irish transport system as the economy returns to better times through carefully targeted investments. Straining the public finances to fund new projects or Metro North will send out all the wrong signals from an economy that needs to be seen as beyond perfect for at least the next 5 years.

I am however confident better times are ahead once a stable government emerges who have the will to get it right; no more Tuam motorways……

The N17 of Sawdoctor fame was actually Kilburn High Road at rush hour in practice; if you remember the pretext of the song was a ‘wish that I was on that N17’. A commuter town of c3,000 people can not justify a motorway in post Lenihan Bros Ireland.

So after the Tuam motorway is built what is actually going to pay for 4 tracking? The Central Bank of Ireland is not the Fed it can’t print money when it feels like it. In any event you have not come up with any technical basis as to why playing around with the timetable will prevent 3 min headways; the Northern line in London runs 90 second headways as do the Jubilee and Central lines at peak.

Well I didn’t see much future
When I left the Christian brothers school
So i waved it goodbye with a wistful smile
And I left the girls of Tuam
Sometimes when I’m reminiscing
I see the prefabs and my old friends
And I know that they’ll be changed or gone
By the time I get home again.

(Chorus)
And I wish I was on the n17
Stone walls and the grass is green
And I wish I was on the n17
Stone walls and the grass is green
Travelling with just my thoughts and dreams

Well the ould fella left me to shannon
Was the last time I traveled that road
And as we turned left at claregalway
I could feel a lump in my throat
As I pictured the thousands of times
That I traveled that well worn track
And I know that things will be different
If I ever decide to go back.

(Chorus)
And I wish I was on the n17
Stone walls and the grass is green
And I wish I was on the n17
Stone walls and the grass is green
Travelling with just my thoughts and dreams

Now as I tumble down highways
Or on filthy overcrowded trains
There’s no one to talk to in transit
So I sit there and daydream in vain
Behind all those muddled up problems
Of living on a foreign soil
I can still see the twists and the turns on the road
From the square to the town of the tribes
(Chorus)
And I wish I was on the n17
Stone walls and the grass is green
Yes I wish I was on the n17
Stone walls and the grass is green
Travelling with just my thoughts and dreams

Not go and troll some other website

Some of us graduated from Kilburn to places you can only dream of… now F**k off

@PVC King wrote:

Some of us graduated from Kilburn to places you can only dream of… now F**k off

You never graduated from prep school

Metro North manager says project has broad support

THERE WAS a broad public and political consensus behind Metro North and a new government was unlikely to halt it, the project manager claimed yesterday.

He said the agency had met Opposition transport spokesmen and “Labour and Fine Gael were broadly supportive” of the project.

About €135 million has already been spent on enabling works and planning for Metro North and the Railway Procurement Agency said yesterday that €45 million had been provided for it in the Budget. This brings the total spend on Metro North to almost €200 million before the project has received Government approval.

Both Fine Gael and Labour refused to give an absolute commitment to the project yesterday, claiming such a move would be “irresponsible” before assuming office and seeing the full costs.

Contracts for significant enabling works would be awarded early next year. “Until we sign the public-private partnership we can’t say the project will go the full way . . . but it is a note of confidence that the Government said it will support enabling works over the next year or so.”

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1215/1224285580700.html