Luas, Metro and DART – Drawings and Photomontages
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@Morlan wrote:
Yes, your sign is very nice and Parisian. Unfortunately, it is in breach of the regulations 😉
I think we need some symbolism or heavy metals.
If they say metro what is the irish equivelent under ground?@missarchi wrote:
I think we need some symbolism or heavy metals.
If they say metro what is the irish equivelent under ground?Faoi thalamh (fwee halav) or just Meitreo
This is architecture… with archs
who if left of field?
An Bord Pleanála gives Metro North go ahead
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1028/metro.html
The multi-billion-euro Metro North project in Dublin has been given the green light by An Bord Pleanála.
The rail link from St Stephen’s Green to Swords now faces final approval from the Government on a cost benefit analysis.
The infrastructure project is described as the biggest in the history of the State and the ruling from An Bord Pleanála runs to 1,700 pages.
The board has given permission for an underground track from St Stephen’s Green to north of Ballymun where it will cross the M50 on a flyover.
It will go underground at Dublin Airport stopping at a centralised transport hub before going overground again to Swords with some of the line on stilts due to the undulating landscape.
The board has eliminated two stops at Belinstown and Seatown and ordered the relocation of a depot and park-and-ride facility.
It wants the park-and-ride facility and depot moved from Belinstown, which is north of Swords, because of the risk of flooding.
The overall 18km line has therefore been shortened by 2.3km.
The final plan for the underground section at Ballymun and the stop at O’Connell Street also need to be finalised.
But it is the proposed ‘big dig’ in the city centre, involving moving statues like the O’Connell monument and closing off part of St Stephen’s Green, that is causing concern to some businesses.
Enabling works on underground utility lines is due to start next spring, while the construction itself is scheduled to last from 2012 to 2016.
The overall estimated cost has varied from €5bn at the height of the boom to €3bn now with reduced construction costs.
Supporters point out that because it will be a public-private partnership the initial cost will be taken by the private operator. The Rail Procurement Agency will have to make a final decision between two consortiums – Celtic Metro Group and Metro Express – in coming months.
A number of economic studies have been carried out by the RPA with the latest showing that for every €1 spent on the Metro there will be €2 back in terms of overall economic benefit.
Labour leader Eamon Gilmore has said the Metro North project should be postponed while Transport Minister Noel Dempsey has said it will go ahead subject to a final cost analysis.
The RPA says the line will be able to carry 20,000 passengers an hour with 10km underground providing a journey time of 20 minutes from Dublin Airport to the city centre.
New render of Westmorland
@Morlan wrote:
New render of Westmorland
I’m sure it’ll feel very safe after dark, in an area already drastically under lit :rolleyes:
Btw I see no overhead cables for Luas BX – so do we now have two RPAs; Luas RPA who advocate overhead cables, and Metro RPA who don’t?
The render reflects the approved location of the Westmorland entrance to the enormous O’Connell Bridge station.
Westmorland Street accessAs for the lack of cables, I doubt we’ll be seeing trams running through here until 2020 or later. Hopefully we’ll have battery powered trams or third rail by then!
Is it really necessary to have two traffic lanes and a tram lane down Westmorland?
Let’s pedestrianise the fucking lot! Dublin Bus can use the tram lane. Deliveries and other access can share with pedestrians.
Westmoreland street is useful as a traffic artery, pedestrianisation is not required at present, a widening of the western footpath is long overdue though. College green will have to be a bus only street from 5am to 12.30am in order to allow for proper segregation of luas services.
@hutton wrote:
Btw I see no overhead cables for Luas BX – so do we now have two RPAs; Luas RPA who advocate overhead cables, and Metro RPA who don’t?
Dont you know overhead cables would clutter the streetscape!
Oh and a wall of yellow buses….
Road use or not the paving should be continued with some “design”
I would also like a little stream and some grassy knolls might not look out of place…
Oh and the bumps…
I’m not a fan of glass and steelstill needs gov approval…
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/1028/breaking44.html
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/1028/breaking3.htmlI would suggest that should Luas be extended North that many of the routes currently using O’Connell Street would no longer need to do so; I would also suggest that Capel Street is underused in terms of bus usage.
Very true PVC KIng,and DCC took very recent action to ensure that Public Transport useage of Capel Street would be well nigh impossible given that parking bays and assorted other impediments now abound.
But the principle of alternatives to OCS as the SOLE means of Publicly Crossing the Liffey are sound.
I have also for a long time past suggested Jervis Street as offering a great set of Bus Laning possibilities,given that it allows just as easy access to the Henry/Mary Street shopping souks,as well as being adjacent to the Dublin Bus Strand Street Terminal site,now sadly moribund…?
Any takers……
Very true PVC KIng,and DCC took very recent action to ensure that Public Transport useage of Capel Street would be well nigh impossible given that parking bays and assorted other impediments now abound
Retail has changed; paint is now sold from retail parks at the edge of cities; parking in Capel Street has no other rationale other than DIY enthusiasts and tradesmen loading paint pots. Capel Street needs to be handed over to DB as the main Southbound route for 16-22 etc to free
up O’Connnell St.I have also for a long time past suggested Jervis Street as offering a great set of Bus Laning possibilities,given that it allows just as easy access to the Henry/Mary Street shopping souks,as well as being adjacent to the Dublin Bus Strand Street Terminal site,now sadly moribund
I agree that this route could take a lot of strain currently borne by OCS and Aston Quay/Bachelors Walk.
The prize could be a pedestrianised / Luas only Central Bank to Parnell Square
DoT press release on the 4-year plan
http://www.transport.ie/pressRelease.aspx?Id=258
Is Metro North going ahead?
Yes. Metro North is the major component of the public transport allocation. The planning and procurement processes for Metro North are proceeding. The estimated expenditure on Metro North in the period 2011-2014 is now slightly less than previously estimated because of the An Bord Pleanala requirement to relocate the depot. This will result in a short delay of a number of months in the overall timescale for the project.
Notwithstanding this, enabling works for Metro North will commence in 2011 and the procurement process will continue. This is expected to result in the selection of a preferred bidder in 2012. The final business case for the project will then be submitted to Government for approval to proceed to construction.
Is DART Underground going ahead?
It will now not be possible to deliver the tunnel element of the programme in the immediate period. However, some of the re-signalling and associated works, which have capacity benefits in and of themselves, will proceed over the next four years and this will prepare the network for the delivery of the underground tunnel once financial resources permit.
An Bord Pleanala has commenced the oral hearing for DART Underground. It is likely that the railway order could be made by the end of 2011. The DART Underground project is an extensive programme involving the construction of an underground tunnel, to be delivered by public private partnership, and the delivery of various other resignalling and associated works to facilitate the integration of the Northern and Kildare Lines via the tunnel.
What other public transport projects will go ahead in this period?We will continue to spend on vital public transport programmes such as railway safety, traffic management, accessibility and real time passenger information across the country. In Dublin the Luas extension to Citywest will be complete in 2011 and a new public transport bridge at Marlborough Street will commence construction. Planning will continue on a range of other public transport projects including Luas BXD, the cross-city link, Luas extensions to Lucan and Bray, and Metro West. Funding is available to commence construction on the Navan Line in 2013. Money will also be provided for the purchase of new buses for PSO services.
You all know the economic backdrop, can one person who doesn’t live on the Metro North route please give a rationale for Metro North being built at the expense of the Interconnector.
I don’t believe I’m reading this. Words fail me.
The Govt is obssessed by Metro North
@PVC King wrote:
You all know the economic backdrop, can one person who doesn’t live on the Metro North route please give a rationale for Metro North being built at the expense of the Interconnector.
RPA did the superior PR job no doubt. There’s no votes in the interconnector, it’s not sexy, it doesn’t go anywhere where there is blatantly obvious demand, it’s difficult to explain to the general public the Connolly signalling bottleneck if you’re an institutionalised CIE salaryman. The project justification should have been outsourced to major international PR pimpers ages ago . The fact the project is based in logic would dictate that it was always at the greater chance of being scuppered.
Out my way , FF will be playing the ‘at least we got yiz T2 and MN’ card and it might save them a seat or two in North Co. Dublin.:mad:
Up the Wesht!…and North Co Dublin! Yeeehaaar!
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