LUAS in Harcourt Street (Update No.8)
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- January 9, 2004 at 3:07 pm #737742
urbanisto
ParticipantGabriel – are the trams staying that colour? Silver with no livery. I like that.. very minimalist and modern.
January 9, 2004 at 3:32 pm #737743Gabriel-Conway
ParticipantIt’s actually a silvery kind of lilac – very hard to capture with a digital camera in that light (I had to bring up the brightness on the photo considerably before putting it online).
Gabriel
January 9, 2004 at 3:44 pm #737744notjim
Participanti didn’t realize the sherriff street bridge was going, i guess that’s good, how are we going to get over the canal without blocking it for canal traffic, I guess a much lower bridge would still have clearance.
January 9, 2004 at 3:55 pm #737745JJ
ParticipantFor info :
There’s an RPA Line C1 open day next Tuesday between 10am and 7pm in the National College of Ireland foyer.
There was one held before Christmas which had drawings and photomontages of the proposals.
Deatils here : http://www.ifsconline.ie
JJ
January 9, 2004 at 3:58 pm #737746Anonymous
InactivePossibly something like the Structure at Guild St, to facilitate the movement of boats from the Liffey.
I am a little sad to see the bridge go, as it is a great vantage point back towards Mount St and The BOI in Baggot St looks great.
Many artists often gathered there to get perspectives as well. But hopfully some new public vantage point will be provided, even higher hopefully
January 10, 2004 at 2:36 pm #737747niall murphy
ParticipantNice photograph Gabriel. Cheers!! What kind of speeds can we expect to see on the lines? Are there any points where the units will be at top speed? What speeds are the tests doing at red cow area?
January 11, 2004 at 10:32 pm #737748Anonymous
InactiveWhile getting drenched on the way to the pub last night I had a quick squint at the new LUAS overhead cables and supports.
They are really cool and such an improvement from the muck used on the DART line.
It may be over budget and years late but at least it appears that it will look great.
Roll on the metro
January 16, 2004 at 1:26 pm #737749niall murphy
ParticipantGabriel. All the track is down on Harcourt street but there isnt really any work going on at the moment to return the street to normality. What i mean is removing the barriers from the Garda place down and resurfacing the other side of the street to the tracks. Surely after all the bad press this street has gotten a strong push should be made to finish it off
January 16, 2004 at 1:32 pm #737750notjim
Participanti imagine that after all the bad press, they only want to go at it once more, so they are waiting for when they are working at the wiring before the work on the other stuff.
January 16, 2004 at 4:05 pm #737751Rory W
ParticipantTwo interesting things
1 – the Luas stop outside the Odeon (old Harcourt Street Station) is getting actual individual cobble-lock between the rails whereas the Abbey St Station (for example) is getting printed concrete. Southside bias?
2 – Isn’t it interesting how the pavement has been finished outside The Sunday Business Post Office and The Origin gallery on Harcourt Street (and nowhere else on the street) given that these were the most vocal complainers about the Luas – a case of he who shouts loudest eh?
January 16, 2004 at 4:36 pm #737752GrahamH
ParticipantPerhaps the cobble-lock is considered more sympathetic to the environs of the station.
I don’t like the purple printed concrete on Abbey St – it stands out like a sore thumb.
Perhaps it will look better when the rest of the roadway is resurfaced, assuming it’s going to be.The area around Connolly looks fantastic, it’s weird really – having such a large wide plaza area surrounded by decent modern buildings in Dublin.
The ramp lost it’s purpose with the dissapperace of horses & carriages, in hindsight it should have been demolished years ago, pity the contractors didn’t accidently knock the new terminal as well…January 16, 2004 at 4:53 pm #737753Anonymous
InactiveWhat possessed CIE to develop offices on the roof of Connolly Station.
Furthermore it was jerry built, the next time your passing go into 5 Harbourmaster Place and take the lift. From day one it never worked it takes about 90 seconds (feels like minutes) to get to the second floor which is at about the height of a regular fifth floor.
January 16, 2004 at 4:56 pm #737754Andrew Duffy
ParticipantWhich one of the four surfaces is used depends on whether traffic needs to share the line:
Tarmac – if traffic needs constant access to the line, usually at crossings of for access
Dark cast concrete – if traffic must be able to mount the tracks to pass an obstruction
Cobbles – if traffic is never allowed on the line
Light cast concrete (pretty shoddy, imho) – when a footpath crosses the lineI think the tracks on the reservation of the Naas Road and along the M50 are just tracks, as are the raised tracks on the southside. Is this the case?
January 16, 2004 at 5:00 pm #737755kefu
ParticipantA good sixty per cent of the two lines is just regular old train tracks. Most of the Dundrum line is like that and then all along the Naas Road is like that as well.
January 16, 2004 at 5:35 pm #737756Anonymous
Inactiveyeah most of the track is in concrete, see attached pic of luas running along side the m50 … I don’t think anything else is justified in these areas …
January 16, 2004 at 5:39 pm #737757blue
ParticipantRory W – Real cobbles behind the Four Courts so its not a south side bias. Mind you about 85% of the Luas is on the south side so you could call that south side bias 😉
January 16, 2004 at 5:42 pm #737758JJ
ParticipantRory,
Just a point about the granite sets, no Southside bias, the area through the back of the Four Courts and Smithfield has been finished with granite cobbles and sets throughout as well.I’ve attached a photo taken by one of the site operatives who’s a friend, it shows the view from the “balcony”area looking back towards Busaras.
JJ
January 16, 2004 at 9:08 pm #737759GrahamH
ParticipantThat’s great JJ – no one but the contractors can see what’s going on!
I really like that building on the extreme left of the pic, it can be appreciated much more now without the ramp.
And the IFSC looks great as well.
And Busaras, and the ‘Towers of Darkness’, and Stephenson’s block!
And even that little early Victorian terrace in the distance – it puts everything in context.January 17, 2004 at 12:59 pm #737760kefu
ParticipantI’ve made this argument before on previous threads.
Luas has an extreme southside bias in that none of the line really serves Northsiders at the moment, yet runs through their part of the city centre (though the extension will help matters).
The only Northsiders who’ll use it would be a couple of hundred residents of Stoneybatter/Conyngham Road really. Everybody else is close enough to walk to town. Someone living in Smithfield might or might not use it – but it’s primary purpose isn’t serving them.
I still find it hard to believe that either line was considered more important than one up past DCU, through Ballymun and on to the airport.
And even though I think the Dundrum/Sandyford line has the benefits of passing through some wealthy areas – it was built largely because the track was already there.January 17, 2004 at 2:19 pm #737761Anonymous
InactiveYou are right Kefu,
When consultants write reports such as the DTO ALL their findings should be implemented.
I think the bias reflects penny pinching from an Athlone based politician and nothing to do with the humour of the dubs.
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