Loop Line Bridge – specifically the ads…
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if there was access from the street as well as from the station, it would get you across two busy roads and, if it would have spectacular views. the big difficulty would be building it with wheel chair access from the street.
I wouldnt see any need for a pedestrian element to the Loop Line. Matt Talbot and the new pedestrian bridge at chq more than surfice.
My dream solution would be to put the Dart line underground from the Tolka to beyond Pearse. Mainline and Dart services could be more efficently organised under the exisiting Connollly building linking up with Luas and an underground link to Busaras. Tara Street would again stay underground with office development above. Same for Pearse with the dual line re-emerging between it and Grand Canal. The amaount of land freed up for redevelopment would contribute to the cost of the scheme.
I was just thinking about the views Notjim. You’re right, they would be great.
Well current DART users get to see it anyway!
IFSC people do use the Matt Talbot, although there would be a benefit to having an overhead bridge if it meant avoiding the Tara St junction with the quays, which is a nightmare – so dangerous.
Overall though, widened pavements and ped crossings etc would be far preferable.
It would be great to sink the DART alright – one day, one day…I don’t see a point to replacing the Loop Line Bridge with a slimmer version, either keep a big lump of Victoriana (which if elsewhere in the country people would be charmed by) or restore the uninterrupted view. The bend in the Liffey looks fanatastic without it. Liberty Hall should also be knocked if the bridge were to go to restore the dominance of the Custom House.
Oh purleese! Did you just drop in that little trojan “knock Liberty Hall” hoping noone would notice…?!?
One project at a time Graham!!! Loop Line Bridge first.
(maybe if you could knock Liberty Hall when all those naysayers from SIPTU are inside…?)
further to the above
The AA & other motoring bodies may objet to widening the footpaths ( narrowing an already congested quay commeter road)
A High level pedestrian access to tara street stn as described could contribute a significant benifit to pedestrians in this location at a reasonably favourable cost. ( while enhancing a functional structure )
Disabled access can be provided as with any other pedestrian overbridge by use of ramps.
Links can be made to the board-walk and promenade in front of the custom hse, linking and opening up a considerable and attractive pedestrian space to the location.
Agreed Stack-A bridge & other bridges are all positive improvements linking the quays for pedestrians. However above suggestion is specifically targeted twords accessing Tara St Stn & associated pedestrian traffic overloading at commuter times.
disabled access
ramp @ 4% gradient
Ht. of loopline above quays 6m approx
length of ramp required 150m approx
length of loopline between custom hse quay and intersection with Beresford place rd – approx 80m
ramp from custom hse quay to landing at beresford quay – 75m
ramp from landing to high level bridge over liffey – 75mIt looks feasable at first glance on paper althought this would require a more detailed survey to check headroom clearances, landtake, possible obstructions etc.
Yikes – someones been doing the sums 🙂
Reading back d d dallas is funny alright – I’ll chuck in a belated ‘it would be nice if’
elevators = additional construction cost, additional maintenance costs, may require opperator & more susceptible to vandalism.
This one is nearly solved, we could go to tender next wk.
Just on the theme of advertising hoardings on Victorian Bridges, has anyone ever noticed the one on the North Strand with the ‘Bud is King’ muck across it.
I had a good look at it recently and it really is a fantastic piece of work, not as ornate as the Westland Row bridge but very much in the same style.
I am all in favour of CIE getting a return on their properties and they really have done a World Class job with Both Busaras and Heuston. But these hoardings deliver a small return in proportion to the visual destruction that is generated.
That Bridge at Westland Row is pure class, its amazing what a bit of paint can do. Does anyone know the history of it?
Dates from 1890 or 91 – can’t remember what’s printed on the base of the columns! Pearse had to be altered to essentially have a railway burst through its facade to take the the new line.
Presumably the facade there now dates from this time also – a weird piece of architecture – as is the colour.
Unfortunately the bridge doesn’t look so classy now with huge canvas draped over it advertising IE’s Student Card.Last time I asked – and I think I put this on another thread – Iarnrod Eireann said they had five year deals with a lot of the advertisers, and need those contracts to expire in order to start their clean-up. So they promise great things in the near future.
Stunning picture, though, Graham. Whoever approved the Loopline bridge was a moron. Obscuring the view of Custom House from O’Connell Bridge is one of the greatest sacrileges ever perpetrated in Dublin. The bridge should be ripped down and the trains put in a tunnel under the Liffey.
I heard through the pipeline that DCC are trying to get IE to do a ‘site swap’ for the Loop Line advertising hoardings so they won’t lose valuable revenue (that the government should be giving them but give to roads instead!) if they’re removed. And painting the bridge pale grey is mooted.
How long ago did you ask Sue as you know five years flies in.
The South Ciders and North Ciders advert is good. Bit farfetched to say that the bridge should be ripped down and a tunnel built so as just to see the reconstructed shell that is the Custom House. Instead, get Calatrava or the like in to remodel this part of the bridge. Would look good with an arch or somethig and fairy lights at night…more practical solution. The Dublin quays from Hueston Station to the Docklands in any way are really mediocre and unimpressive….really bland in other words. Bad example set here for the rest of the country.
I have a copy of the old/new? design, it was in the Dublin Millenium book of 1989. It was quite sexy, with transparent walls allowing you to see right through. It made the trains look like they were floating on air. And it did restore the grand sweeping view spoken about earlier. I don’t think the addition of an “arch” is constructive at all, All you’re doing is adding uneccesary materials and support. Why obstruct the view further? At the very least, the advertisement hoarding should be removed and the bridge painted white. At the moment it just looks dingy. Having said that, white is much harder to keep clean, and with all that traffic…..
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