Look at de state of Cork, like!
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- June 24, 2005 at 7:13 pm #734062
lexington
Participant@domosullivan wrote:
re: footlocker – What is wrong with Cummins Sports and Finns Corner?
re: Dixons – Soundstore and Flor Griffin?You may have a point but in terms of retail I am not sure I want Cork to become another Leicester/Derby/Belfast/etc. I live in the UK and find the average regional high street to be extremely boring. I love coming home to Cork and see some “retail independence” ,
Though I agree the city centre needs to facilitate more prime city centre retail space – I don’t agree with the logic that to be consider a decent retail centre, you need to have a certain list of names or brands like Footlocker, Dixons or whatever. Indeed, increases in choice are always welcome but I don’t see, how for example, if Dublin has a Starbucks – Cork has to also. To me, that simply makes a city seem less distinctive and among a pattern of replicas. Indeed, fashion retail in Cork – for example – could certainly do with more input as the choice in the city centre can be restrictive at times and the regularity of the same old places with the same old products in themselves become repetitive. A healthy retail area can sufficiently support both big brand names and local enterprises. For those establishments that have become lazy and uninventive, I say bring in the brand names, but it I don’t think they’re a prerequisite to a city’s success. That said, I look forward to seeing increased choice in the form of stores such as H&M, Habitat and believe it or not – in the not too distant future, Abercrombie & Fitch may be landing on our shores! Cornmarket Street, Grand Parade, Academy Street and others should help rectify the restrictive city centre space availabilities. And in time, the docklands areas will assist helpfully too.
June 25, 2005 at 9:22 pm #734063mickeydocs
ParticipantdanielCork needs to address its retail problem sooner rather than later as I was in limerick recently and it just came across me that it is better served by the bigger names moving in such as eddie rockets,pizza hut(i know mp has both of these) but they are only food court outlets and my examples but i am really refering to the city centre anyway!Also footlocker has just expanded with a number of outlets in Ireland but none in Cork again!Also Dixons,pc world,currys just popped into my head
Speaking of which, the colourful Marquee has been erected for the Live at the Marquee event at the Showgrounds. I believe it was actually visible in the background from the commentary box at yesterday’s Munster Finals match for those of you watching it on television.
I think MPH would be better focussing on developing the additional ‘event centre’ lands myself for other uses. I would hate to see CCC settle for less simply to satisfy a whim.
As for the Ford site, plans are already being formalised on that site for a massive redevelopment (will have more details on that in the near future hopefully) – and as for Tedcastles, I believe I posted one of their plans in an earlier post.
June 28, 2005 at 12:57 pm #734073Radioactiveman
ParticipantAfter the recent architectural competion, those anybody know whether there are any REAL plans for Kyrls Quay?
Here’s a few images of some developments ongoing/recently completed or planned for UCC.The first is the new IT building planned fior the old Greyhound Track on Western Road:

It got planning in July 2002 and includes a riverside walk with a bridge link to the new Medical building at Brookfield House. The completed building will house Computer Science and Microelectronic engineering Depts. Designed by Scott Tallon Walker, the project is on hold due to funding shortfalls.Next is that medical campus at Brookfield:
Its built around an 1800’s residence which had been vacant for many years. The design team have created a new complex which accommodates the academic needs while conserving the original house. The house although not particularly attractive was identified through the campus Conservation Plan as a regionally significant building. Its significance arises from the uniqueness of the house which was built using techniques more commonly found in industrial building of the time. The previous occupants, the Jennings family had fear of flooding, fire and break in. The house is of very robust construction (steel doors, safes etc.), has large brick-lined tanks at attic level and had an area for a boat at roof level. (Source: UCC, Buildings and Estates).Designed by RKD McCarthy Lynch, its under construction and due for completion very shortly.
Finally for now, some views of the new Postgraduate research Library to be built adjacent to the existing Boole Library. Designed by SBRA and Wilson Associates, prelimanary work has begun with work to be completed by May 2007.

Some model images:

June 28, 2005 at 1:13 pm #734074jungle
Participant@ewankennedy wrote:
Ive heard all the jazz about Horgans quay too and though it would be a nice location I think its still too small.
What benefit Horgan’s Quay has in terms of location would be lessened if/when a bridge is built at Water St. It would be a 5-10 minute walk from the train station to the event centre then.
June 28, 2005 at 3:14 pm #734075lexington
Participant๐ UCC have being granted planning to develop a new 2-storey 1675 sq.m Outreach and Access Building with lecture theatres, ancillary offices, a cafe, exhibition and research areas. CCC approved the Jack Coughlan designed building, to be located on a site at the Mardyke Gardens, beside the new Mardyke Walk Bridge, subject to 11 conditions – of which, permission for the Tennis Court lighting, was refused.
๐ Killarney-based Oyster Developments (of which Limerick developers John Costello & Paul O’Brien have involvement) are seeking permission to develop 7 2-bedroom apartments and 3 retail units along Church Road in Blackrock. The development is to be designed by The e-Project, who also designed the developers’ other foray into the Cork market with a redevelopment of the Capitol Cineplex on Grand Parade, for use as a department store. That project is currently in Further Information and has received a large degree of criticism over its design. The developers are also currently looking at a number of other large-scale development options around Cork.
๐ DAT Partnership have seen the due date on their landmark 9-storey 30,000sq ft office building for Clontarf Street, designed by Coughlan de Keyser Architects, pushed back until September 2nd 2005 – the original due date had been scheduled for the 7th of July 2005. Michael Lynch is the planner responsible.
๐ The office development for Clarke’s Bridge, being developed by Adrian Power and designed by architects Coughlan de Keyser, looks set to be lodged within the next few days. The building will now be lodged in a revised design stemming 7-storeys in height.
Apologises for the sporadic posting lately. Been pretty busy, but will return to form hopefully over the next few days. – thanks for the images RM .June 28, 2005 at 3:22 pm #734076ewankennedy
Participant@jungle wrote:
What benefit Horgan’s Quay has in terms of location would be lessened if/when a bridge is built at Water St. It would be a 5-10 minute walk from the train station to the event centre then.
Yeah I figure once the council get on with the job for the Water st bridge (by the way thanks for the post with pics lex on that!) the event centre at the showgrounds will only be a hop across the bridge and be just as easily accessible as Horgans quay.
June 28, 2005 at 5:20 pm #734077Radioactiveman
ParticipantI’m dying to get an image of that outreach building lex. You able to lay your hands on some?
– having had a look at the report, I see that this project was reccomended for refusal of planning permission by the planner involved. Obviously this was over-ruled. Any details?
I’ve said it before, this sort of carry on does little to increase my faith in the planning process!June 28, 2005 at 9:15 pm #734078snoopdog
Participant:confused: Is it true that mr.Kelleher has sent in another planning permission application? Is it also true that he was only allowed 27 town houses after his last application? :confused:
June 29, 2005 at 11:08 am #734079pier39
Participant@snoopdog wrote:
:confused: Is it true that mr.Kelleher has sent in another planning permission application? Is it also true that he was only allowed 27 town houses after his last application? :confused:
nope. if anything he’d appeal it but i havent heard anything. so what was the last really exciting planning application in the city? clontarf street? kennys thing on patricks quay??? im waiting with tantilising anticipation to see the next really interesting proposal. anyone got a heads up???
June 29, 2005 at 11:52 am #734080Anonymous
Inactive@Radioactiveman wrote:
I’m dying to get an image of that outreach building lex. You able to lay your hands on some?
– having had a look at the report, I see that this project was reccomended for refusal of planning permission by the planner involved. Obviously this was over-ruled. Any details?
I’ve said it before, this sort of carry on does little to increase my faith in the planning process!I think that UCC are allowed to do anything that they want, granted, some is good, e.g. the Glucksman, but other stuff is a bit grim, e.g. the Environmental Research Building on the Lee Road…….
June 29, 2005 at 2:45 pm #734081lexington
Participant๐ McCarthy Developments have been granted permission to develop a further 50 apartments at their highly popular Harty’s Quay development in Rochestown. The residential complex is designed by Project Architects and under construction by Ridge Developments. The grant allows McCarthy Developments provide 2 new 5-storey blocks with 25 apartments in each.

๐ Solicitor and developer James G. O’Mahony’s Rosridge Properties have been permitted by Cork County Council to provide a roundabout on the Cork to Bandon N71 Road. Rosridge are seeking to develop a new medical campus and residential complex on lands adjoining the roundabout at Garranedarragh near Bishopstown. The development will be a joint venture with the Sandyford, Dublin-based Beacon Court Group (who are themselves developing a new private hospital at Sandyford Business Park), St. Patrick’s Hospice and Enable Ireland. The development will provide a new 100-bedroom private hospital, new 110-bed hospice, medical campus, care facility (w/ school, training centre and swimming pool) and some residential elements. The permit of this provision may be an indication of the way in which Cork County Council are viewing the aforementioned proposal ahead of any decision (still in Further Information) – Rosridge are counting on a grant for the lands which are not zoned for such development. With full knowledge of the material convention of the Cork County Development Plan that this development posits, Rosridge are counting on an amendment or ‘allowance’ in light of the proposal nature. The roundabout decision, however, is being appealed.
๐ฎ Lidl GmbH have been granted permission to develop a new discount foodstore on a site at Kilnaglery, Carrigaline – on the main Crosshaven/Carrigaline Road. The development will pave the way for a new Lidl store, 118 parking spaces and all associate ancillary services. Design was handled by Patrick A. Cashman & Associates. - AuthorPosts
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