Look at de state of Cork, like!
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- June 10, 2005 at 11:32 pm #733962
lexington
ParticipantI think you’ll be happy with the end product RM – you can sigh relief. The 1st image shows part of the revised proposal which was greenlit – including the tasty curve-linear copper canopy and link to the Noddys building across Little Market Street. It’s a good project.
June 11, 2005 at 2:53 pm #733963ewankennedy
ParticipantI have seen the revised plans for Cornmarket street and I think it will look well too when its done.
Lex I agree with your point on Brideviews Midelton plan. It would be nice to keep as many of these estates as possible. Hopefully the council will wise up.
Also…just out of pure curiosity Lex are der any Uk architecture firms youd like to see design buildings in Cork? I only ask cos I’ve been compiling info on international firms who have operated in Ireland and now I’m doing the Uk so I was wondering what firms if you had a choice would you like to see in Corks redevelopment??? 🙂
June 11, 2005 at 3:15 pm #733964lexington
Participant@ewankennedy wrote:
Also…just out of pure curiosity Lex are der any Uk architecture firms youd like to see design buildings in Cork? I only ask cos I’ve been compiling info on international firms who have operated in Ireland and now I’m doing the Uk so I was wondering what firms if you had a choice would you like to see in Corks redevelopment??? 🙂
I think I may have remarked on some of the architectural firms I like in Cork/Ireland – I may update that list soon – but as for the UK?
There are a number of UK-based firms I find most interesting. The abundance of practices based across the Channel are far to numerous to be familiar in their numerical entirety – however one firm I would very much like to see employed, perhaps in a landmark docklands development, simply based on their design history is EPR Architects. If it was my choice, EPR mixed with Antonio Gaudi would probably produce my kind of project :p .
Obviously Foster & Partners (on occasion – as far as I’m concerned, Foster comes out with either a gem [Swiss Re Building] or a dodgy affair [eg. Scottish Gas HQ]), Niall McLaughlin (sometimes) and a few of the other noteworthy names are also of interest – but EPR are probably one of the lesser recognised, but equally dynamic practices based in the UK. However, I do believe it would be up to the developer to ask the firm to push themselves when it comes to design. M3 Architects are another interesting bunch – vehemently modern however.
Below are images of an interesting EPR project at Cardinal Place in London. Probably not everyone’s taste – but at least its willing to explore options beyond the standard 90 degrees.

I like the extensive and eco-friendly use of greenery – fully-fledged gardens are actually incorporated into office and retails spaces. Some of EPR’s residential stuff is a lot less worth raving about however.
EPR Architects]Foster & Partners[/URL]; M3 Architects
Interesting that you should ask that ewankennedy – however, I do believe Ireland and Cork has quite a lot of talent on its own when given the right push and the freedom to do so. Recent flairs by Coughlan de Keyser, Wilson Architecture and Patrick A. Cashman & Associates have shown that for example. But I believe we should still keep pushing the architectural boundaries – especially in Cork now that we have the opportunity to do so, and in many cases, developers with the money to provide such. Clontarf Street perhaps provides one of the most interesting forms – however I would like to see us keep pushing more and more and improve on each proposal. There will always be a few blue notes it would seem – i.e. the Capitol, Victoria Mills etc – but the trick is to outnumber x with y. EPR may be interesting, but their architecture is still not near where I would ultimately like to see our Cork’s future buildings going – that is why I noted EPR blended with Gaudi as an example. Detail and art to architecture. Colour, shape, curve and beauty. I think with the right encouragement, guidance and allowance – our own architects may be able to achieve this.
June 12, 2005 at 5:58 pm #733965lexington
Participant😮 The Reliance Building at 10/11 Andersons Quay has been receiving some interesting glances since its placement on the market back in late May. Reliance will be relocating to new purpose built premises in the near future, allowing them provide this attractive city centre site for a potential large-scale redevelopment. Hamilton Osbourne King have received approx. 10 legitimate offers for the 0.4 acre site, which is guiding in and around 5m euros. Among the bidders, it is believed that interest has been expressed by a Dublin-based group (who have been actively looking for a prime city centre/docklands site in Cork for at least 3 months), supposedly businessman Tommy Maher (who co-owns the adjoining Mahers Sports premises) and another prominent Cork developer (generally associated with residential developments).
The Maher bid would make sense as it would allow any development there take full scope of the waterfront quayside and allow for a more substantial and prominent development.
The location is in an area of prime development and situated to the rear of Howard Holdings’ City Quarter development and OFC’s No.5/6 Lapps Quay development. Also, across the road, DAT Partnerships are in planning for a 30,000sq ft, 9-storey landmark office building designed by Coughlan de Keyser (on Clontarf Street); Paul Kenny awaits a decision on his proposal for the new 127,000sq ft Revenue Commissioners offices this coming Tuesday 14th June 2005 on St. Patrick’s Quay (opposite the Reliance Building); OCP have plans on Custom House Quay’s PoC warehousing which they successfully purchased 2 months ago for over 6.75m euros. Also, there are further plans earmarked for nearby Parnell Place, which will also see a new 121-bedroom hotel on the now famous Corbett site (application in planning). Also not far away, Frank Doyle’s 20,000sq ft warehouse sold not so long ago for a final price tipping on 8m euros!!! The successful purchaser is apparently in discussions with the adjoining Twill Ltd warehousing (???).
Whoever the Reliance Building goes to, any future development at this site will be at the epicentre of a rejuvenated city quarter. Pressure will be on the developer to provide a development equal or higher in design quality to that of its neighbours and prospective neighbours.
😮 Manor Park Homes plans for Horgan’s Quay are gearing up for planning. It is expected, though yet to be confirmed by CIE or MPH, that the application will be lodged either in sync or in relatively close time proximity so as to allow the developments emerge together. I hope to have some details on the contents of the planning application within the coming weeks.June 12, 2005 at 10:41 pm #733966A-ha
Participant[font=Arial:39mkz4sb]Does anyone know who else, besides Habitat are interested in Cornmarket Street. I've heard talk about H&M moving in there. Also, when the f**k is IKEA supposed to open in Dublin. Ireland must be the only country in the world that doesn't have a single IKEA. Has the store even been built yet??[/font:39mkz4sb] :confused:
June 13, 2005 at 10:13 am #733967lexington
ParticipantDeveloper and Auctioneer Joe Carey has donated 10,000euros to the prize fund to design a new redevelopment of Cork City Library. An international architectural competition to provide a landmark new design for an enlarged library premises (up to 4,700sq m of space) was launched earlier this year by CCC. A decision on the new design is due for September.
June 13, 2005 at 11:08 am #733968Radioactiveman
ParticipantWallace’s Jewellery Shop in North Main Street was destroyed totally by a fire yesterday. I believe the building was recently renovated so it is particulrly tough on the store owners.
June 13, 2005 at 11:39 am #733969genario
Participant@lexington wrote:

A good building. Intresting. It would be nice to see maybe 1 or maybe 2 of this buildings in Cork. But it will need some adjustments.
June 13, 2005 at 11:50 am #733970Anonymous
Inactive@lexington wrote:
If it was my choice, EPR mixed with Antonio Gaudi would probably produce my kind of project :p.
I think Santiago Calatrava would fall into that category
Below are images of an interesting EPR project at Cardinal Place in London. Probably not everyone’s taste – but at least its willing to explore options beyond the standard 90 degrees.

I like the extensive and eco-friendly use of greenery – fully-fledged gardens are actually incorporated into office and retails spaces. Some of EPR’s residential stuff is a lot less worth raving about however.
EPR Architects]Foster & Partners[/URL]; M3 Architects
That project is under construction at present
June 13, 2005 at 4:14 pm #733971Freddie
ParticipantHope Mark Kelleher has more luck with his planning application at “Caterham”
than he did at “Westend” see TP 05/29464.
CAHRA should not have a problem with this application (2 storeys), but with
that crowd you would never know?
However the “blue rinse” brigade will proberly be lamenting the loss of
another quality house in their beloved Bishopstown, sad,sad,sad.
Maybe it is time to take the advice of another contributor to this website
and take the pensions off the OAPs that stand in the way of progress.June 13, 2005 at 4:21 pm #733972ewankennedy
Participant@Freddie wrote:
Hope Mark Kelleher has more luck with his planning application at “Caterham”
than he did at “Westend” see TP 05/29464.
CAHRA should not have a problem with this application (2 storeys), but with
that crowd you would never know?
However the “blue rinse” brigade will proberly be lamenting the loss of
another quality house in their beloved Bishopstown, sad,sad,sad.
Maybe it is time to take the advice of another contributor to this website
and take the pensions off the OAPs that stand in the way of progress.Think you’re referring to something lexington said Freddie but it wasnt about the elderly, he said that if objectors are using their childrens allowance to finance appeals – such as with jurys – that they should probably have their childrens allowance taken off them and given to those who genuinely depend on it and cant afford to waste it on sumthing so inappropriate. the childrens allowance is suppose to be money for food, clothes, education and the group involved were flaunting it publically about using it to fund objections!!!
June 13, 2005 at 4:41 pm #733973Pug
Participant@Radioactiveman wrote:
Minihan’s Jewellery Shop in North MAin Street was destroyed totally by a fire yesterday. Apartments overhead were also destroyed. I believe the building was recently renovated so it is particulrly tough on residents and the store owners.
Will surely lead to an even more gap-toothed apparence for the street.do you mean the one on castle street next to the coal quay or is there another one on north main st?
June 14, 2005 at 1:11 am #733974lexington
Participant😀 You may already know what this is about but…More Later!!! 😉
June 14, 2005 at 3:19 am #733975dowlingm
ParticipantHopefully the entire corner can be developed, not just Reliance. Isn’t the old chandlery (can’t remember what’s there now), the dogs home and a garage? surely all can be relocated. It’s a bit of a mess traffic wise with the bus station across the way.
June 14, 2005 at 9:33 am #733976Anonymous
Inactive@ewankennedy wrote:
Think that was lexington who said that Freddie. But he said that if objectors are using their childrens allowance to finance appeals – such as with jurys – that they should probably have their childrens allowance taken off them and given to those who genuinely depend on it and cant afford to waste it on sumthing so inappropriate. right too!!!
Is it actually legal to say that you are using your childrens allowance to appeal, surely its for the kids (or at least its supposed to)?
June 14, 2005 at 10:07 am #733977mickeydocs
Participantlexington wrote:😀 You may already know what this is about but…More Later!!! ]Eglinton street has received planning?
June 14, 2005 at 10:17 am #733978lexington
Participant🙂 Lidl GmbH has gone in for a 3rd time with an application to develop a store in the Churchfield area of Cork. The plan, for Mount Agnes Road will incorporate a single storey discount foodstore and a further 2-storey building containing 5 community units and associated car-parking. Third time lucky for Lidl?
No mickeydocs , had the post up last night but I’ll have it up again soon. Fingers crossed!June 14, 2005 at 10:35 am #733979Leesider
Participant@lexington wrote:
No mickeydocs , had the post up last night but I’ll have it up again by mid-day fingers crossed!
Patrick’s Quay has got planning??
June 14, 2005 at 11:10 am #733980mickeydocs
Participant@lexington wrote:
🙂 Lidl GmbH has gone in for a 3rd time with an application to develop a store in the Churchfield area of Cork. The plan, for Mount Agnes Road will incorporate a single storey discount foodstore and a further 2-storey building containing 5 community units and associated car-parking. Third time lucky for Lidl?
No mickeydocs , had the post up last night but I’ll have it up again by mid-day fingers crossed!of course 14th of June = planning date for Patricks Quay
any news on the everyman palace and their plans for the quay?
any decision date expected on Eglinton Street?
Thanks as always
June 14, 2005 at 8:16 pm #733981kite
ParticipantI almost missed Lex’s brief comments in posting 1704 where he advises that
‘OCP have plans on Custom House Quay’s PoC warehousing which they
successfully purchased 2 months ago for over 6.75m euros’
Surprising that if all that happened 2 months ago on this site we haven’t
heard a word or seen OCP’s plans, thought the media circus would be in full
swing by now.
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