Look at de state of Cork, like!

@lexington wrote:

😀 Following incalcuable trials and tribulations, 2 designs later, Mark Kelleher (of the Kelleher family, former owners of the Bishopstown Bar [which recently was sold to Mr. Horgan for 8m euros!] among other properties), has been given the greenlight by CCC planner Evelyn Mitchell for 53 of the 73 residential units planned for a collective of adjoining sites off Curraheen Road at Westend near Bishopstown. The project, pleasantly designed by Frank Ennis & Associates, received over 124 seperate objections for residents, groups (like CAHRA) and local councillors – and will be granted subject to the removal of an entire section, the 20-units of Block C.

I’m very glad that CCC saw through the substantial cock-and-bull in the logic of many of these objections (too often over-lapping – and many more referring to the details of the previous incarnation of the development!) – which objection often on the grounds of the developments ‘high-rise’ nature (of 3/4-storeys – depending on how you see the mansard roof). :rolleyes: This is a positive move. Unfortunately, Jerry Buttimer and posse have informed me that an appeal will be sought, one individual stated that ”high-rise is suitable in other cities, but not Cork”. I take it we should tear down every house and building 4-storeys and over then, right?

A constructive move by CCC.

Images sought, and hoping to have some soon.

Thanks to “himself” up in Dublin and the northern sir for info in light of my absence. You’re help is kindly appreciated.

P.S. What a ridiculous headline in the IE article today stating ‘High-rise Development Granted’ then continuing to discuss the 3-storey development! :rolleyes:

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Just on a side-note, I find it rich to see councillor Jerry Buttimer object and publicly defame Mr. Kelleher’s project on grounds such as traffic increases and height among other things given that a project, recently lodged by his GAA Club, which he also chairs, represents a far greater threat to the community than that at Westend.

Bishopstown GAA’s plans for CUH usage of its car-park will cause increased volumes of traffic in an area of dense family housing, throughout which many children – who play in the park’s green areas – may be at risk (God forbid!) to incidents consequent of the increased movements. I’m all for sports clubs trying to rail in the revenue when able to do so – sport is an integral and important part of our society and culture – but this project, given its location, poses a far greater threat to the community than Mr. Kelleher’s proposal ever could. Anyone who knows this area well, will be aware of how one must constantly keep their eyes peeled for children speeding across the road in their tricycles without warning or chasing a ball onto the road from a green. Of course this is the case anywhere, but especially here given that this is essentially a large, maze-like housing estate with strong population of young families. Feel free to object. :rolleyes:

I agree, Cllr.Buttimers backing of a few local cranks and the CSD (CAHRA) lobby group is doing the city no favour. Pity Cllr. Buttimer did not have the same vigour when Mr.Montgomery was planning his Mills development.
Maybe the GAA connection proved too strong?

@Radioactiveman wrote:

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The Marlboro Street Echo Boy Statue

Last seen about 3 or 4 years ago before being removed for urgent surgery (re-installation of a detached cranium).
Anybody knowing his whereabouts should post it here. Also, tell the Examiner because they’re always very quiet on the subject 😎

You should stick that post into the Examiner classifieds office as a paid Ad in the Echo and see if they publish it

As I pointed out above, AIB’s Watercourse Road development has been appealled to ABP. By Kathleen Lynch TD.

ah yes an extra star 😀

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Well, either this thread has powers beyond our wildest dreams or its just a sheer coincedence (most likely the latter 😉 ) but, we’ve located the Echo Boy.

According to Graham Lynch’s report in today’s INSIDE CORK, the statue has been repaired and is due to be re-erected on Tuesday 7th June or Wednesday 8th of June, this time on St. Patrick Street.
After talks between CCC and Examiner Publications, it has been decided to erect the bronze statue near the historical enterence to the Examiner Office (located near the new CORK 2005 information office).
The statue had been repaired in Dublin at a cost of € 7,500. This came after unsuccessful and misguided attempts to repair it in situ using concrete.

Is this the beginning of the end of the new , clutter free St. Patrick Street?
Is it a good idea to move this statue from it’s original location?

[font=Arial:3b03otd1]I read last week that Cork County Council want 2500 houses built in Midleton over the next few years. They believe Midleton would be more suited as Corks main satellite town over Mallow as the East Cork region is one of the fastest growing area in Ireland. Does anyone know where all of these houses will be put? I cant think of any sites in or around Midleton that would support that number of houses. I also read that Midleton Town Council are trying to get it's bounderies extended so that the town will become the same size as Galway City. Is there any truth in that statement or did someone just get carried away writing??[/font:3b03otd1] :confused:

Yes Midleton is going to see huge growth over the next few years.It is going to be interesting to see how the road network is going to cope.

All this plan has done is drive prices up in the Western and southern suburbs and create traffic chaos on the N-25.

I think it is most evident on the recent sale of 6acres of land on the Curraheen Rd. at 1,750,000/acre.Although come to think of it Bride View paid 1,000,000 an acre in Midleton last year,I think we may be looking at another jump in house prices.

It is starting to get expensive out there!

[font=Arial:prs7ts2z]Ohhh, also, I'm so delighted that Cork Airport Authority is in talks with Ryanair about opening up new routes to mainland Europe and Scandinavia. If theres anything that Cork needs it's cheap flights to the continent, not just London.[/font:prs7ts2z] 😀

If you look in section 5.2.14 (p20) of the original Midleton ED plan, theres an outline of NRA proposals for that section of the N25 – they mention 2010-2015 as a timeframe, which would make sense given the funding time frame – after the major inter urban routes will be completed (not including the Kilcullen to Waterford stretch). The Cork Limerick route and the Northern Ring should also see major developments in that timeframe.

Theres also plans for two northern roads around Midleton, one is in planning now and will be quite close to the town, the other is mentioned in the Special Local Area plan for Midleton, and will be further out, designed to serve the developments to be constructed in the Broomfield area. The second one is probably 10 years away though, if ever.

Midleton ED Plan.

http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/pdf/93560153.pdf

In terms of the cost of this, would it not be better to look at reopening the Midleton-Youghal railway line?

Unfortunately, no. The costs of running the Midleton line to Youghal, at least in the medium term, are a lot higher than you’d expect, and the additional traffic generated would be much less that that required to run a service. Prioblem is that Youghal isn’t that big, it doesn’t have the capacity to generate that much extra critical mass. Midleton is being developed at the pace it is precisely because it does have extant critical mass to require such services, and it already has significant transport infrastructure.

Additionally, a lot of the traffic on that section of the N25 isn’t local, it isn’t really that much of a commuter route, its a major route for heavy transport (read trucks). Upgrading the road is required anyways, the increase in business in the area is putting the network under severe pressure. Putting a sizeable park n’ride in Midleton, with enough trainsets to run a proper service, in addition to improved roads on the Midleton-Youghal section is the chosen solution for a reason. Whether it works out like that is a different matter.

In any case, the railway alignment will remain in public hands. Who knows, in 20 years, when Midleton is a city in its own right (!), the maybe extending it will be an option. It isn’t now.