Look at de state of Cork, like!
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- April 12, 2005 at 4:20 pm #733502
lexington
Participant@Lincoln wrote:
i had a look at the waterstreet file in CCC last week- the An Taisce submission was quite surprising- other than a reference to the “Sore Thumb” syndrome it was in support of the scheme in general (except some minor caveats) and even went so far as to say that the design is worthy of the docklands and will be a good demonstration of high density city living!
I give out about them more than anyone – but in fairness to Kevin Hurley, he’s not really oppose to the development as such. He’s had a few chit-chats with Sean Kearns on the project – his collegaue, Tomas O’Scannlain is more likely to appeal than anyone (which I hope he doesn’t), In this instance, I believe the residents are the biggest obstacle. I utterly empathise with logical and reasonable concerns residents raise concerning planning issues – it’s their entitlement as occupiers of an area, but to be fair, the objections regarding Water Street in this case are utterly disappointing and imbalanced. Water Street is a great development which opens up a bright light into the docklands. But you never know, CCC have their awkward ways about them!
April 12, 2005 at 8:40 pm #733503lexington
ParticipantThat’s right – although I’m a little late getting to this on the forum, Aer Arann MD Peadar Ó Ceidigh announced that he is planning to inaugurated a non-stop transatlantic service between Cork to New York and possibly Boston. The flights will most likely be destined for the city’s JFK Airport. Aer Arann plans to begin the service within an 18-month timeframe and talks have been ongoing with ILFSC (Aircraft Leasing Agency) about obtaining what will most likely be 4 ETOPS (Extended Twin-Engine Operations) aircraft such as the Airbus A330-200 (232 seat capacity – an aircraft similar to that in use by Aer Lingus on its Dublin – Los Angeles route) – however such details are only at a speculation stage considering Mr. O’Ceidigh did say that the route would require a 30m euro investment and that the airline was actively looking for investors or an investor to help finance what he believes to be a route would huge potential. Demand is just ‘crying out’ for the route apparently. The routes, if and when operational, will entail a higher frequency in the Spring/Summer months, with reduced activity in the Autumn and Winter seasons.
– in other Aer Arann related news, the airline has also announced its intention to increase Cork-Dublin route frequences bringing total Aer Arann flight numbers for Cork from 172 a week to 212 per week starting as of May. Aer Arann has carried just over 100,000 passengers on its Cork-Dublin route already this year – an increase of 8% on figures for this time last year. The airline will seek to base a further aircraft at Cork this summer to cope with demand.
– Cork Airport Authority have announced that traffic at the airport has increased 17% on the first quarter (in comparison to the same period this time last year). The newly formed Authority says Cork is on target to hit passenger movements of 2.7m for 2005, but may even succeed those figures. That’s a big job for a terminal only designed to cater for 1.5m passengers. The new 280,000sq ft terminal under construction, with an operations date set for November 2005, is designed to facilitate up to 3.3m passengers – with room for expansion subject to demand. It would seem that expansion may be needed sooner that even Aer Rianta (in it’s studies) had predicted.
April 12, 2005 at 8:48 pm #733504rodger
ParticipantRe:Development at Water St.Very impressive design and the developers in this instance have the cash to spec it properly. I have a previous knowledge of this property it has character,sunshine and waterfrontage which in conjunction with the interesting design by maol will set another important milestone in corks design progress.
It’s just a shame that the powers that be are ending the Urban Renewal schemes when the tide is rising in cork.
Any news on the city car park i.e Kennys.Nice site.April 12, 2005 at 8:53 pm #733505lexington
ParticipantI assume you’re referring to the Kenny site at 50 Grand Parade??? Or the Patrick’s Quay site???
Well I can tell you PRC Architects are working on a revised scheme for the 50 Grand Parade site – the details can’t be made public yet, but an application is expected in the not to distant future. It will represent a flagship project for the Kenny Group in Cork.
April 13, 2005 at 3:18 pm #733506Radioactiveman
ParticipantDoes anyone know what kind of objections/submissions were lodged against the AIB’s proposals for Watercourse Road?
April 13, 2005 at 4:43 pm #733507lexington
ParticipantSomething I’m quite delighted about, FINALLY (FINALLY!!!) CCC have resurfaced the mine-field left-over that is Grattan Street. I almost started crying with happiness being able to drive from Bachelor’s Quay to Washington Street without having my suspension brutally abused, or having to rescue injured foreigners whose tour buses disappeared down vast potholes. Long long overdue! But it’s here now, so that’s good!
April 13, 2005 at 4:54 pm #733508lisam
Participant@lexington wrote:
Something I’m quite delighted about, FINALLY (FINALLY!!!) CCC have resurfaced the mine-field left-over that is Grattan Street. I almost started crying with happiness being able to drive from Bachelor’s Quay to Washington Street without having my suspension brutally abused, or having to rescue injured foreigners whose tour buses disappeared down vast potholes. Long long overdue! But it’s here now, so that’s good!
I have to agree with you on that point, it certainly was a joy to drive along there last night.
April 13, 2005 at 8:11 pm #733509john bedford
Participantwould anyone have a pic of cork from overhead. i have seen many of dublin but cant seem to find one for cork
thanks
April 13, 2005 at 8:28 pm #733510sw101
Participanthere’s an aerial
April 13, 2005 at 9:00 pm #733511john bedford
Participantthank you sw101 that was quick
April 13, 2005 at 9:06 pm #733512sw101
Participanti’m nothing if not resourceful. anything else i have is pretty strictly copyrighted. try google.ie and just lash in “cork aerial”, “cork city aerial”, and other combinations.
also, go to “search by map” on http://www.myhome.ie and if you zoom in far enough to cork you can see aerial views of the city out as far as glounthane.
April 13, 2005 at 10:34 pm #733513phatman
ParticipantHere ya go http://irelandphotography.com/aerial/index.html
Dont forget to check page 2April 13, 2005 at 10:37 pm #733514Anonymous
InactiveThat is a great resource, it is amazing the different perspectives you get from a birds eye view. The guy responsible is clever enough the way he stuck a part logo into the images. 😉
April 14, 2005 at 1:32 pm #733515Leesider
Participanton a development related subject, I see Shannon is getting the first data centre outside of Dublin. Does anyone know if there are any plans to set one up in Cork or the general area?
I was also wondering has there been any move on what is to happen with the showgrounds?
April 14, 2005 at 3:30 pm #733516lexington
Participant🙂 The DAA have seemingly granted requests by the CAA and others to provide air-bridges at Cork’s new airport terminal. The bridges had been cast in doubt after penny-pinching exercises by the DAA and Dept. of Transport. However only 2 of the originally planned 3 bridges will be provided – allowing for a saving of just under 400,000euro (wow! :rolleyes: ) Provision was made in the airport design to facilitate a northern extension (pier) home to 3 additional bridges subject to demand and airport capacities – but this Phase 2 element is not on the cards for the forseeable future. The 2 bridges will be secured for the interm, with an option by CAA to purchase the 3rd bridge at a future point from its own funding. Though it’s not what was promised, its a small victory, and it represents what was undoubtedly an uphill struggle for CAA Chairman Joe Gantly, so well done sir.
😮 Paul Montgomery has been granted his application to let apartments at his Victoria Mills development on a short-term summer residiency basis. Each apartment will be let individually. Phase 2 of Victoria Mills will commence primary construction in late May/early June – after UCC Summer Exams.
And I know I promised some info and images on the Capitol Cineplex’s redevelopment – but I’m dying sick at the moment and will get around to it as soon as I’m able. Curse the flu virus! I dunno how I got it, I haven’t been hanging around any WHO supported labs. 😀April 14, 2005 at 3:54 pm #733517shrink2cork
ParticipantLexington, Has planning been granted in Beasly Street, Parnell Place, South Mall, for a Hotel etc?
April 14, 2005 at 4:09 pm #733518Anonymous
Inactive€400,000 saving on a €140,000,000 project.
The mind boggles
April 14, 2005 at 4:56 pm #733519d_d_dallas
ParticipantIt’s the kind of cost shaving that comes back to haunt us on most of our infrastructural projects. For the sake of 400k now – 400m down the line!
April 14, 2005 at 5:36 pm #733520lisam
Participant@shrink2cork wrote:
Lexington, Has planning been granted in Beasly Street, Parnell Place, South Mall, for a Hotel etc?
The application consists of: A new five storey, 121 bedroom hotel of 8098 sq. m with ground floor hotel bar, dining area and function room, basement with associated spa and health club, with car parking at basement level and lower basement level at Beasley Street, Cork.
There was an RFI made on the 17th February.
April 14, 2005 at 7:49 pm #733521lexington
ParticipantAs lisam said, Pitwood Ltd are currently compiling the necessary Further Info requested by CCC.
Just on the Capitol Cineplex redevelopment by Mount Kennett Investments and Mr. Costello – it represents, undoubtedly, one of ugliest and laziest designs to have been proposed for Cork in many a year. It is nothing more that a zinc-cladded box, with more boxes on top and an unsightly railing. I have a couple of VIS images from a Grand Parade, Daunt Square and Washington Street persepctive – but it will be a while before I can post them. It is nothing more than a grey, dire brick with a glass frontage. Really ugly ugly stuff and completely undeserving of such an important and dramatic location. The set back upper levels actually add to the ugliness of the development rather than minimise impact. A poor effort by the developers and Sabine Wittman of The e-Project (http://www.the-eproject.com) - AuthorPosts
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