Look at de state of Cork, like!
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- March 29, 2005 at 11:18 am #733402
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ParticipantI’ve got a can of petrol… meet you guys in Cor k for lunch and a good ole bonfire?
@Pana01 wrote:
Walking down Patrick St on Saturday, I saw that the martyr of a portakabin is still alive and kicking!
Two CIE men were laughing and making cups of tea inside.
A few weeks ago, ‘Inside Cork’ had a cover story on this ‘eyesore’, and how nobody from CIE was available for comment. I feel like dismantling it myself – any volunteers, let me know.Lex – I thought it was agreed that this thing was to go recently??
Rant over……..
March 29, 2005 at 12:23 pm #733403lisam
Participant@helloinsane wrote:
You just broke my ironyometer.
I’m not sure any image could do that project justice, if the schizophrenic massing is retained.
:rolleyes: Have you seen what was there before? A total eyesore, a much needed improvement to that area, thumbs up to more developments along there!!!
March 29, 2005 at 1:52 pm #733404lexington
ParticipantThis is just another image of the Camden Court development by OSB. Designed by James Leahy & Associates, constructed by John F. Supple Contractors. It’s not any better really, but at least its in colour. Sort of…
I agree lisam, its a significant improvement on what was there. Which was basically ruin and tin-roof.
March 29, 2005 at 2:02 pm #733405Anonymous
Inactive@lexington wrote:
This is just another image of the Camden Court development by OSB. Designed by James Leahy & Associates, constructed by John F. Supple Contractors. It’s not any better really, but at least its in colour. Sort of…
I agree lisam, its a significant improvement on what was there. Which was basically ruin and tin-roof.
Thats hardly an excuse this building is low on architectural merit full stop
March 29, 2005 at 2:09 pm #733406lisam
Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
Thats hardly an excuse this building is low on architectural merit full stop
๐ Its not the worst design in the world , its interesting
March 29, 2005 at 2:12 pm #733407lexington
ParticipantWell like I said, this image does not justify the building whatsoever – I don’t know how, but they managed to create a model and image that even made me go ‘Dear God!’, I had been bracing myself, but since the scaffolding was removed off Phase 1, I was pleasantly surprised. It’s a funny fish alright – and going by the image, I would agree with you – but that’s all I have for the time being. I may attain some first-hand photos soon, see how you feel then.
Below is an image of 1 of a number of other alternate proposals for the same site – as proposed by many other developers and previous owners. This ugly and boring design is by Reddy O’Riordan Staehli, the CG Image is quite old, given that all the surrounding buildings have been redeveloped or reconstructed.

Given the choice…well…March 29, 2005 at 2:32 pm #733408Anonymous
InactiveThat latest image is even worse, so while we are on that subject I think I will introduce this as being about an equal level of design quality
http://www.hkr.ie/proj_corkstpge1.htm
Whilst these are interesting
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/cork/cork/glucksman/index.html
https://archiseek.com/content/attachment.php?attachmentid=595
Or even this
http://scotland.archiseek.com/news/2005/000054/1_lge.html
But certainly not this
https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=3165&highlight=lexington+watergold
March 29, 2005 at 3:22 pm #733409lexington
Participant๐ KC Kilmore Ltd have been refused retention of their Subway restaurant premises (former barbershop). This is where the ineptitude of CCC reveals itself. During conversion to the restaurant, CCC enacted new legislation which claimed that for such usage conversion, planning was necessary to be sought. KC Kilmore were informed of this following completion of their conversion, and subsequently sought planning (during which, the business continued to operate), CCC today refused them permission and have not made the reasoning public. Does anyone else see the problem here?
March 29, 2005 at 3:41 pm #733410d_d_dallas
ParticipantC’mon – it’s not THAT bad. Superior to the other new apartment development nearby. Camden Wharf.
ick.
March 29, 2005 at 3:42 pm #733411lisam
ParticipantDont think any of the councils know what they’re doing. The left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing!
March 29, 2005 at 3:47 pm #733412Anonymous
Inactive@d_d_dallas wrote:
C’mon – it’s not THAT bad. Superior to the other new apartment development nearby. Camden Wharf. ick.
Its probably a nano degree less odious but it is industry grade stuff that brings in fees for architectural practices and not something that any decent practice would ever put on their home page. Surely you would hate to think that someone researching Cork architecture would think that this was being promoted as architecture worthy of notice. Only auctioneers get excited by that type of building in my experience and their excitement seldom has anything to do with urban design quality in my experience.
March 29, 2005 at 5:16 pm #733413d_d_dallas
ParticipantAgreed, however in terms of city present centre activity this is probably about as exciting as it gets (can someone comfirm/deny)
March 29, 2005 at 7:01 pm #733414lexington
Participant@d_d_dallas wrote:
Agreed, however in terms of city present centre activity this is probably about as exciting as it gets (can someone comfirm/deny)
I would have said 21 Lavitts Quay is a far superior building – I don’t know why, but it speaks ‘Millbank’ (i.e. MI5 HQ, London) to me at some curious level. I have a few smashing images of 21 Lavitts Quay as it nears completion (however I need a new cable link with USB extension) and I really feel it sets a precendent along the quay.
Also, competition designs for Kyrls Quay are shaping up nicely (I’ve seen 2 early drawings for 2 different entrants) and they’re interesting.
Also Rockfell’s Cornmarket Street development by Frank Ennis and Associates as well as John Mannix’s Washington Street development by Dermot Coveney & Associates are interesting designs too.
*UPDATES*๐ PJ Hegarty & Sons Ltd have erected a new tower crane over Blackpool Developments site for a new office and residential scheme at Blackpool Retail Park (Phase 2) – however, Blackpool Developments have recently lodged plans to convert the building to 70,000sq ft + of open plan office space with ground floor retail – this follows their success in tenants at the existing park office space and subsequent demand.
March 29, 2005 at 7:06 pm #733415d_d_dallas
ParticipantFor some reason 21 Lavitts Qy just washes over me. It might aswell be the flytower of the opera house. It doesn’t interest me all that much. It’s obvious money was spent on the exterior but in my opinion to no great effect.
March 30, 2005 at 10:38 am #733416lisam
Participant๐ PJ Hegarty & Sons Ltd have erected a new tower crane over Blackpool Developments site for a new 5-storey 150-bedroom hotel at Blackpool Retail Park – however, Blackpool Developments have recently lodged plans to convert the building to 70,000sq ft + of office space with ground floor retail – this follows their success in tenants at the existing park office space and subsequent demand.[/QUOTE]
A much better Retail Park than mahon and traffic is a lot better. For once the Northside has gotten something better than the Southside
March 30, 2005 at 3:47 pm #733417lexington
Participant๐ John Cleary Developments Ltd have been granted planning to develop a 5-showroom MotorMall near Mahon Point on the former Sifco plant in Ballinure/Mahon. The plan will create upwards of 150 jobs and provide for a unique one-stop motor services facility.
– nearby Johnson & Perrott are developing a 7m euro MotorMall also at Mahon Point for 3 of their 4 Cork dealerships. Design is by SDA O’Flynn and will be occupied by December 2005.
– O’Flynn Construction have applied for a MotorMall development at their EastGate development on Little Island.
March 30, 2005 at 4:28 pm #733418lisam
Participant๐ If only I had the money to buy a new car from all these new car showrooms!!!
March 30, 2005 at 4:58 pm #733419Radioactiveman
ParticipantA decision is due tomorrow from CCC on Frinailla ltd.’s proposals for a large retail/residential development on a significant site at Watercourse Road, Blackpool.
March 30, 2005 at 11:01 pm #733420lexington
Participant
๐ฎ Well, one of many, but after the applications, the talks, the Further Info – Frinailla’s revised development for Ladyswell (Watercourse Road, Blackpool) is due tomorrow. The project has been significantly revised and scaled down, but still remains on a very large scale with in excess of 150 residential units, basement car-parking, commercial facilities, public facilities etc etc. Fingers crossed – it’s a good project for an area much in need of one.– on that note, I probably didn’t mention this, but Frinailla has hired Pat O’Brien Developments as private contractor for its An Caislean development in Ballincollig after the previous contractor went into liquidation mid-construction. Construction is now well under way with a tower crane having been erected a few weeks ago.
๐ฎ Also tomorrow, though there is still a possible Further Information request due, Mary Collin’s 9-storey apartment development at Roxboro Quarry on the Boreenmanna Road is also due a decision. I won’t hold my breath until I hear a result tomorrow – but the 39-unit development is designed by Dermot Coveney & Associates. It isn’t an exciting departure, but is inoffensive and pretty much standard issue. The quarry needs some redevelopment, at this project will add sufficiently. The actual height of the project has less impact than one would imagine given the varying gradient of the quarry site.
๐ฎ O’Flynn Construction directors have met with Joe Gavin, City Manager and officials, regarding the problematic issue of basement parking associated with their Eglinton Street development. The issue has proven a sore point between planners and the developers – with OFC claiming the parking space number is key to the sales pitch of the development. In this case, I very much agree with the developers – the CCC argument really is non-sensical and short-sighted. Another meeting is scheduled soon – I’ll let you know the outcome when I can.
Also, anyone know a good freeware image compression programme? It would allow me load up some very interesting and high-quality development images to the forum – some of which have not yet been released to the public. I am having trouble compressing images (JPEG) of 4MB and 5MB to under or at 1MB.March 31, 2005 at 12:24 am #733421opus
Participant@lexington wrote:
Also, anyone know a good freeware image compression programme? It would allow me load up some very interesting and high-quality development images to the forum – some of which have not yet been released to the public. I am having trouble compressing images (JPEG) of 4MB and 5MB to under or at 1MB.
I use this one, it’s pretty good IrfanView .
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