Look at de state of Cork, like!
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And I’m even more afraid to tell you that yes, the Portacabin is still there – but thankfully it will be history come the end of this month w/ all Bus Eireann ‘operations’ moving to the refurbished bus station
I got to use the ‘new’ bus station for the first time last weekend. I have to say, having been skeptical at first, it is a hell of an improvement on what was there.
It would have been even nicer in my opinion if they could have continued that canopy effect on the front of the building (the new arrivals area) to the rear of the bus station from where buses are departing from at the moment.
@Torquemada wrote:
It would have been even nicer in my opinion if they could have continued that canopy effect on the front of the building (the new arrivals area) to the rear of the bus station from where buses are departing from at the moment.
that is the plan… there is a scanned image somewhere in this thread
:confused: I’ve been following up the news that Scotts Bar (owned by Paul Montgomery of Reardens & Victoria Mills and Edmund Keneally of Scotts & Victoria Mills) of Caroline and Oliver Plunkett Street was sold to neighbouring Brown Thomas – and though nothing is clear yet (Scotts MD still references Paul and Edmund as proprietors) – there are reports that this is not entirely accurate. It may all be urban legend.
😮 After reviewing Riga Limited (O’Callaghan Properties)’s revised proposals for Jurys Hotel on Lancaster Quay (decision due 16th December 2004) – it still seems to me that the apartment buildings most objectors were getting hot and heavy about are by far the least disruptive or aesthetically displeasing elements of the project. They display more merit than say the hotel element – which to me seems pretty bland by comparison. After assessing the V.I.S. repeatedly, considering aspects from Blarney Street, Sunday’s Well and so on – St. Fin Barre’s Cathedral is still well visible – w/ little to no blockage of the view-path. From Lancaster Quay/Western Road elevation, the hotel block is pretty dominating, but under the new revisions (w/ reduced level blocks to the rear of the development) – a new space has been created offering considerably better aspects of St Fin Barre’s. It’s a tough call on trying to predict a decision – the project offers a much needed redevelopment aspect. The apartment elements seem up to scratch in terms of design and aesthetics. The boardwalk adds well to the development. However the Jury’s Hotel element is only so-so ~ but undoubtedly will find favour w/ planners due to its usage nature. I’ll provide a better forecast come nearer to the decision date.
– on a semi-related note; John Mannix’s development for Washington Street – decision due 20th December 2004 – is set, I am very cautiously told by a CCC employee – to receive permission subject to a number of conditions and in light of the revisions made. 😉
🙁 Frank Sheahan, of F&V Sheahan Auctioneers – and developer of 135 apartments at Hewitt Mills (Blackpool By-Pass) and 15-Student Residencies at Lynch’s Street (near Washington Street West) – has applied to amend his over-scheduled Lynch Street project (Lancaster Hall) in changing ground-floor usage from night-club and late-night bar to commercial usage including medical/financial/IT etc. The underground parking element will be adjusted to cater for this. Designed by Jack Coughlan & Assoc. Constructed by PJ Hegarty & Sons – all I can say is ‘YAWN!’
If rumours are true and Brown Thomas have become the new owners of Scotts, it would be kinda strange. I am of the opinion that the building couldn’t be used to extend into. The building where the furniture department is housed is separated from Scotts from what I think is a large ESB substation.
its getting more mental, Declan O Mahony of Brideview has paid €2m for an acre site in Carrigaline. If this keeps up, what kind of prices will all the centre park road and the docklands developments tipped for next year fetch?
🙂 Douglas Central Properties Limited have lodged plans with Cork County Council (yup it’s still consider County Council terroritory even if it is in the city – sigh) to develop an 8-storey mixed-use building on the site of the former TSB Building (to be demolished), Cinema World grounds (which may be incorporated into the facility) and the vacant ‘greenfield’ site to the east of Cinema World. The development will compose of a 60,000sq ft 124-bedroom hotel, bars, restaurants, commercial/retail units, meeting centre and 65 parking spaces.The building when complete would be the tallest building in Douglas.
🙂 Also, at Cork Airport, an application for a brand new 150-bedroom hotel adjacent to the new 160m euro, 25,500sq m terminal is due to be lodged next week. Details remain sketchy at this stage – will let you know more when I get the info. Marriott, a tenant of the nearby and highly successful Cork Airport Business Park (currently undergoing a further expansion), is rumoured to be involved with the project in some-way. This brings the number of hotels at Cork Airport to 2 – incl. the Great Southern Hotel.
:rolleyes: O’Flynn Construction can now proceed with the continuation of their Ballincollig Town Centre Shopping Complex development – to be anchored by Dunnes Stores and 2 other, un-named tenants (rumours are flying!) – after an appeal to ABP was lodged by O’Flynn Construction regarding Fire & Safety conditions was withdrawn. The 200,000sq ft, 3 anchor tenant stores and 35 additional retail units shopping centre is scheduled for opening next October (2005).
:rolleyes: Corbett Bros. have applied to CCC seeking allowance for alterations to their 60,000sq ft office development and 38-unit residential development at Copley Street (originally designed by PRC Architects) – currently under construction by Coffey Construction. Among the alterations – an increase of just under 14,000sq ft is sought to cater for the provision of 8 student apartments, an extention to the permitted ground-floor commercial facility, an additional retail unit, a new office unit and an increase in basement size by over 1200sq ft (new additions and alterations are designed by James Leahy & Assoc.)
🙂 And for those wondering what exactly is happening with Monsoon on Patrick’s Street – I can confirm that they have successfully negotiate a lease agreement w/ Joe Donnelly for the former Clinton Cards store (an additional 2,000sq ft of retail space). Monsoon will occupy the expanded store as soon as the short-term lease agreed with Diesel expires early next year. Monsoon Accessorize Ltd have already applied for planning to extend and modify their highly successful Patrick’s Street store and erect new signage. The lease is rumoured to be on par w/ the highest Zone A rents – think Grafton Street!Oh the locals will be delighted – not since the fabled battle to stop Lidl or bring down the shiny Douglas Court Clock has anything of planning interest arisen worthy of a good fight. Going on Cork County Council’s track record (you know – Douglas it doesn’t exist, and we dont care, but my – those commercial rates are handy!) it will sail through especially if it’s 8 storeys, inappropriate, will be to the detriment of already out of control traffic, oh and really ugly…
I’m afraid to ask… but are there any images of this proposed monster?
@d_d_dallas wrote:
I’m afraid to ask… but are there any images of this proposed monster?
it’s not as unasailably awful as it might be. several architects are involved, and the varied design aesthetics create diversity and contrast which takes away from the overall mass of it.
Although I’ve only seen preliminary (early stage) CG images – I have yet to see the finalised drawings of the project. I expect to receive them within the next few days – but from what I have heard, the design isn’t too shabby at all.
And d_d_dallas I would have thought the redevelopment of Douglas Village Shopping Centre would have been considered a major ’cause for fight’ in recent times too. So far, local councillors are praising the project – I assume that is until the residents start kicking-up. Sigh.
Below is an image of the 60m euro redevelopment scheduled for Douglas Village Shopping Centre – but it offers a good view (in part) of the proposed Douglas Central Properties Ltd development to the east. The image gives a good sense of the vast size of the project.
8 storey building in douglas? not a hope. I live further up but I know the residents the douglas have been objecting to nightclub licences etc for years . There is NO way the roads could take the traffic, it cannot cope as it is, especially given the fact that they pulled up all the road in grange and the hill going up from the village, only to replace it with???? exactly the same thing. 2 million that idiocy cost apparently. 8 storeys is a bit much in fairness.
8 storeys is not a bit much!
its facing south ring road i expect, no overlooking or overshadowing, no adjacent dwellings.
but still expect appropriate levels of traditional douglas outrage from the douglas click who still thinj they live in a village
I live in Douglas and don’t have any objections in principle to the development. If anywhere in Douglas is suitable for development of taller buildings, it’s this site. It doesn’t overlook any houses and is central to the commercial district of Douglas.
The traffic congestion problem in Douglas is almost entirely down to lack of coordination between the city and county councils. All that is needed is all the roundabouts replaced with linked traffic lights and a clampdown on illegal parking and the traffic flows can be handled.
The roundabout seems to be gone in the Douglas Shopping Centre image. Hopefully, this is a good sign.
btw, i hear that there are now 2 submissions on Wilson’s Application for An Post site! how is that? i thought the time was up – was this because of the further information request?
I’d have to agree with jungle on that one – I believe that if there is any site in Douglas suitable for taller buildings, this one would seem the best. Extensive talks with county planners took place before Douglas Central Properties decided to lodge their application. As for traffic issues – the proposed new road as part of the redeveloped Douglas Village Shopping Centre (or Douglas Central as it’s being now called by its owners and developers the Shipton Group [Clayton Love] – *for bunch = hint #1) – would certainly aid the congestion by redirecting it away from the village centre toward the main roads parallel and to the exit onto the South Ring. It’s a matter of bad management and poor existing infastructure. It will be important to see the Douglas Village SC redevelopment get a move on in that respect.
And here’s hint #2 – Douglas Central Properties are registered in Drumcondra, Dublin at the same address as Blackpool Developments Ltd – the SPV registered by the Shipton Group (Clayton Love). Cough cough.
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