Look at de state of Cork, like!
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The train station is also in need of attention.
If only there was someone in charge at CIE who had the foresight and wisdom to develop an integrated bus/rail station on the existing Kent Station site with a new entrance on to patricks quay. Then we might have a public transport terminus worthy of the 21st century instead of the pitiful buildings we have now.You mean the attractive, red brick station that befits Cork’s status as the second city? What’s wrong with it, other than Bus Eireann don’t use it and there is no political will to force CIE companies to share buildings?
Thats the one. Of course if you moved the bus station all the grannies would be complaining that they’d have to drag their shopping across the bridge to the new station. No pleasing everyone really is there!
Yes Jupiter I have used it, but I cannot say that I have used the toilets (from other examples of CIE toilets I am sure they are a delight!). All I am saying is that people should take a closer look at the building. It has some attractive features such as the tiling on the outside. As I stated earlier, it does need some work. I am just trying to point out some of its positive aspects.
It doenst need work. It needs a bulldozer. Its a poorly laid out badly designed building that doesnt maximise the potential of the site in the 21st century and which has fallen into chronic disrepair. The institutional lethargy of the staff and management there is something which is also protected by the continued use of this outdated atrocity of a bus station.
Originally posted by sw101
“institutional lethargy”SW101, I must say that I really like that expression. It is the best description I have ever heard of some of the workforce that are encountered in those types of institutions. Don’t get me wrong about the bus station. I realise that it is not maximising its space and that it does not function well anymore, it is just one of those buildings that catches my eye when I am in Cork. For some reason I think it looks quite cool!
Thanks
Phil
For Phils (and anyone else who isn’t aware ) benefit I’ll let you know that the toilets in the bus station are well known as a meeting point for gay men. (think George Michael being arrested)
For this reason alone (and there are many others) the building needs to be completely redesigned and preferably moved.
Ok, i’m with you on it being unusual and somewhat eye-catching. if it was well maintained and tarted up like busaras (no, not you) it would be fine. But as it is its a waste, and throwing 4 million at it is a huge waste. Another few FF votes for berties continuing ride on the power wave methinks
I knew that. Avoid like plague as the man said. The fucking timetable board has been moved now aswell and i cant find it. Good thing i know when all my busses go.
Gay men?! In the toilets?! Meeting?!
Well they should level the surrounding area just in case!
What other tiresome stereotypes motivate you to consider the refurbishing of buildings corkdood? I mean its well known that ‘junkies’ meet outside the customs house; so I propose we completely redesign or better yet move the customs house; I mean if junkies can meet there next ‘gay men’ will and we’ll have fully fledged meeting of marginalised weirdos on the steps of one of our national treasures.
I’ve also heard that moaney, second-city-issue-ridden Corkonians meet in Heuston station when they arrive in Dublin; so I propse we completely refurbish it or better yet move it to remove the ‘problem’.
Or is that just another cliched lie?
Originally published by eircom.net
€60m to fund new Cork School of Music premises
From:ireland.com
Thursday, 25th March, 2004A new building for the Cork School Of Music has been approved for constructio, bringing an end to a long-running saga which has seen students scattered to 17 locations across the city.
The Minister for Education and Science, Mr Dempsey, today announced that just under €60 million will be provided for the building which will be constructed and operated as a Public Private Partnership (PPP).
The Minister had been accused using EU budgetary regulations as an excuse for not providing funding for the project after the school was forced to leave its premises three years ago.
But pressure began to build on the Minister after the regulations were relaxed last month and campaigners threatened to run candidates in the upcoming local elections.
Making the announcement today, Mr Dempsey said he recognised the hardship caused to the 3,500 students and more than 65 staff students and tutors who had been forced to use a variety of premises including a disused hotel.
“I am aware of the deep frustration and difficulties that the delay in progressing the project has caused the director, staff and students in the daily operation of the CSM since their move to the temporary accommodation.
“The government was always committed to this important project but were faced with real difficulties, both national and European, in clearing the project and these have now been fully resolved,” Mr Dempsey said.
However, the school is not due for completion until late 2006 and will not be operational in time for Cork celebrating its status as European city of culture next year.
The project will be the first purpose-built school of music in the State and will be constructed and operated by Jarvis Projects on a 25-year lease on the Cork Institute of Technology (CIT) campus.
CIT director Mr Pat Kelleher said the announcement was “a wonderful moment in history”.
A grand building site for the European City of Culture’s year in the spotlight.
tower cranes are good though. it means that at least it’s developing. i must say i like cork. i found the whole driving experience down there quite strange but still. same here. lets hope that as city of culture it gets to do some nice public buildings like that music one.
its finally good to see people taking an interest in the built environment outside the pale, however looking through not only this forum, but others one gets a very negative attitude. while we need to be subjective about what is being built in our country, we also need to praise the work which merits it
a comment was made about the opera house is cork, which is a result of the era it was built, not trying to defend the design if you can call a rectangular brick box a design, but this building was built in hard economic times on a shoestring budget, it s recent face lift and that of emmet plc has made the area less drab and with johhson and perrott moving to a new 4 million euro showroom in o callaghans mahon point, it leaves a valuable space for what we hope will be an exciting development in the heart of the city.
the new murray o laoire bulding in ucc and the new school of music on the quays should also improve the citys image. a new apartment block on sawmill street across from st johns college , designed by jack coughlan architects (i think) is also a welcome addition to the city , situtated alongside the south terrace apartment complex , it looks like things have changed for the better
anyway sorry for rambling on , just all this negative stuff is a bit much , lets hope one of the cranes from the extension to the south mall falls mysteriosly and takes the dreadful eicom building with it , yours prc 🙂
cork is a great city but like a lot of the country has too many old relics from the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. bring on the new city hall refurb and the school of music. if it ever dawns on someone a new development at kent station with bus/rail services and access onto the quays would a great move. if the middleton line is ever reopened, it may someday even continue on to youghal and waterford . a new south-east coast line from cork to belfast via dublin i think however is a bridge way way too far…..
by the way is mahon point actually going ahead and what about the sewage and water works in the city. surely those works must be nearly finished and finally what stage is the ballincollig by-pass at!!?!!I recently had northern European visitiors visit Cork.
They were much struck by the prevalence of dereliction, next to development, in the main streets. Likewise the 60’s and 70’s tat was much noticed. While I would regard downtown Cork as more interesting than downtown Dublin, if a little rough around the edges, they did not have this view at all.They could not believe the incomprehensible down town traffic system, which is very poorly signed as usual in Ireland, and when I told them how long the Patrick Street road works had been continuing they thought I was telling lies.
They also found prices very very expensive by the way, so will not be back for the City of Culchies in 2005.
Mahon Point is well advanced and will open next year with retailers like Debenhams B&Q and HMV all confirmed as tenants.
After 5 years of disruption the sewage scheme is almost complete with the treatment plant working at 75% capacity at present making Cork harbour a healthier place. The Patrick street rejuvenation is also going well – should be completed by July. Works are also ongoing on Oliver Plunkett Street. I assume they will be finished by the end of the year.
Meanwhile the new lights and bus stops on patrick street have already been vandalised and defaced with socialist workers party posters. Some things never change.
Finally the Ballincollig bypass is well advanced and should open by the autumn.So its not all doom and gloom by the Lee.
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