Look at de state of Cork, like!
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- November 2, 2004 at 10:22 am #732822
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InactiveThanks for that Lexington. I must remember to take a photo of it the next time I am there. I must say I quite like it. I like the use of slate in Kinsale. I think it really distinguishes it from other towns in Cork.
November 2, 2004 at 4:16 pm #732823phatman
ParticipantHere’s a photo of the shearwater development, can’t make it out in too much detail due to the boats in the foreground, but still enough to appreciate it’s positive addition to the quayside, fits in well with the architecture of the area i must say
UCC’s new brookfield campus partially opened for use yesterday, had a look in, really impressive, much nicer internally than externally, theyve incorporated the old house itself very well into the development, some very nice lecture theatres too. a job very well done.
November 2, 2004 at 4:18 pm #732824phatman
ParticipantHere it is
Lexingotn, could you tell me how to actually make images appear in you post, as opposed to a link appearing?cheersNovember 3, 2004 at 1:46 pm #732825theblimp
ParticipantI see Mr. O’Callaghan is in the media again saying that he ‘might well’ develop a 6,000 seat arena at Mahon Point, but will need the full support of the city and tourism bodies. Yes, of course he will. Hakuna Matata about the access or the proximity of new residential neighbours to the site allocated!!! By any chance does Owen have a big project in planning at the moment that requires a bit of a push and a lot of spin ….. on the Western Road perhaps ….. ?
November 3, 2004 at 2:08 pm #732826Anonymous
InactiveThanks for that Phatman. One thing I was thinking about with that development is that it does not seem to be very wheel chair accessable, but I must admit I did not really look at in massive detail, so it was just my first impression of it. As I stated earlier, though, I think it is an attractive design.
November 3, 2004 at 2:55 pm #732827lexington
ParticipantThere may be more to this particular announcement than meets the eye. I’m currently looking into it – I’ll get back to you on it.
November 4, 2004 at 12:28 pm #732828lexington
Participant*UPDATES*
-> Thomas Crosbie Holdings, owners of the Irish Examiner, Sunday Business Post and Evening Echo etc – have apparently reached an understanding with an as of yet, undisclosed developer, for their new proposed HQ along Lavitts Quay. HOK had said a deal was under consideration – I am informed however, talks have moved on to the next level and that an announcement was due soon. Construction was likely to begin immediately with a completion date due for mid-2006 ~ with the Irish Examiner relocating to the new premises before work on the new O’Callaghan Properties 150m, 6-storey, .6 acre retail and apartment development got underway in December 2006 (planning pending). I’ll let you know more when I hear it.

-> O’Flynn Construction have been asked for Further Information on their Eglinton Street application – as expected. As part of the Further Info, an EIS has been requested. This may see any Further Info received by CCC, not due for at least 2 months. However Frank O’Mahony of Wilson Architecture has said, they were prepared for this and work will begin immediately.
-> CCC have announced their intention to commence a 600m euro housing redevelopment and development scheme. The scheme is partially in response to the lack of socially affordable housing being made available in the Cork city market. CCC are endeavouring to cut the growing waiting lists (touching on 6,000) for such housing. The scheme will consist of new housing, apartments, duplexes and the repurchase and redevelopment of some housing. In addition, the effort will also provide quality facilities for the elderly and for the physically challenged. Clear plans will be released soon.
After taking a more detailled look at the Corbett Bros office and residential development on Copley Street – currently under construction by Coffey Contractors, designed by PRC Architects – the best example I can give those of you who are unfamiliar with the design is; a 5-storey blend of Parchment Square along the Melbourne Road with the apartment development along South Terrace adjacent to the Jewish Centre. I’ll look into getting images for you.
-> With relation to my earlier post on the Mahon Point Trade/Convention Centre – I looked into O’Callaghan Properties announcement yesterday that it was now ‘seriously confident’ their Centre would proceed, with a construction date set for late 2005, planning pending. I can tell you, that O’C P had been working with Project Architects (Dirk Luow) and SOM (Skidmore Owings & Merrill) on the original Trade Centre – and adjustments have been made to the original design in order to cater for a multi-purpose use centre (no longer strictly trade – as once envisioned). The original trade aspect was to be 50:50 funded between the ERDF and O’C P – and was to be linked with the Montreal World Trade Centre – however this has all changed, and O’C P had been withdrawing from the notion based on viability. However, new revisions allow the centre act as a trade centre, convention centre, expo centre and event centre – with many operations working together at the same time if needed. Viability of the centre given its location and proximity to housing – plus sufficient parking and access is up for debate.
Ancillary to the above report, at least 2 developers who had been assessing the proposed expo/event centre site cited by CCC along Penrose Quay and Horgan’s Quay – have said they did not deem the site as being comfortably able to facilitate such a development.A very faint, and quite frankly, unreliable rumour suggested Cosby Homes of the UK had been glancing their eye over Cork’s docklands from a distance – interested in make a move on the Irish market with a Green-Quarter style development. See http://www.green-quarter.co.uk
November 4, 2004 at 8:10 pm #732829lexington
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Just an image that may be of interested to some of you. The photo is looking west to east over the city centre of Cork with Cornmarket Street in the foreground, the northern channel of the Lee to the left and Patrick’s Street curving down the centre.
1. The RED outline represents the site of Rockfell Investments Cornmarket Street 6-storey department store and apartment development – recently granted f.p.p.
2. The TURQUOISE outline is of 21 Lavitts Quay office development – nearing completion.
3. East of this, in PURPLE, between 21 Lavitts Quay and the Opera House, is the site of the soon to be developed, Irish Examiner HQ Building (see images in previous post).
4. Crossing the river in LEMON, is the new Shandon Pedestrian Bridge.
5. the YELLOW outline shows the site of Hanranka Ltd/Carrolls Quay Investment Co.’s 85 unit 6-storey apartment development. In mid-construction.
6. WHITE outlines the OSB Camden Court apartment, theatre and super-pub development between 4 and 6 storeys – with extensive roof gardens and playgrounds. Phase 1 is nearing completion. Phase 2 is cited for development early next year. See images in a previous post.
7. The BROWN outline shows Hornibrook Builders Camden Quay apartment and retail development. Between 4 and 6 storeys with 58-apartments and underground car-parking. Nearing completion.
8. The GREEN line shows the site of the existing Dunnes Stores store on Patrick’s Street – the group’s original – which will soon see an application lodge for its redevelopment ~ doubling in-size with a number of ancillary retail units and cafes, at a cost of 30m euros.
9. The NAVY line is of the new extensively redeveloped AIB Retail Flagship for Cork. Construction has begun on this surprisingly large-scale development.
10. Finally the BLUE line, shows the city block housing the current Irish Examiner HQ as well as many other retail units and offices. All this is scheduled to be demolished – save Le Cheateau bar (being preserved for architectural and historical reasons) – and rebuilt in a massive 6-storey 150m euro retail precint and apartments by O’Callaghan Properties. Scheduled for construction by the Bowen Group in December 2006. An application will be lodged in mid to late 2005.
Of course there are many many more developments ongoing or beginning in the area of this image – but I just thought it may be an interesting perspective on some of the more notable projects.
I have an additional image showing sites primed for redevelopment, at preplanning or under negotiation in this area – but I’ll save that unless requested.
November 4, 2004 at 10:50 pm #732830Leesider
Participantthings are coming along nicely, when do you expect work to begin on Cornmarket St Lexington? This area is in dire need of its imminent makeover!!
November 5, 2004 at 10:41 am #732831corkdood
Participant@lexington wrote:
I have an additional image showing sites primed for redevelopment, at preplanning or under negotiation in this area – but I’ll save that unless requested.
Please don’t keep it to yourself. I for one would like to see it. Its great to see so many sites in the city centre being redeveloped. Its long overdue!
November 5, 2004 at 12:29 pm #732832lexington
Participant@phatman wrote:
Lexington, could you tell me how to actually make images appear in your post, as opposed to a link appearing?cheers
If you have an image on your hard-drive, and want to display it on your post – you first must upload the image to a web-host (try ImageShack.us), then you have to hotlink the image to your post (click the ‘Insert Image’ icon and paste in the image URL).
@Leesider wrote:things are coming along nicely, when do you expect work to begin on Cornmarket St Lexington? This area is in dire need of its imminent makeover!!
The whole street is due for a 5m euro makeover – the Cornmarket Street Action Plan is currently being initiated. It is hoped, work on Cornmarket Street will begin when Oliver Plunkett Street and Grand Parade have their makeovers complete. The proposed new street-scape will be symathetic to pedestrians and ‘marketeers’ alike – in an effort to boost Cornmarket Street as the natural retail extension of Patrick’s Street (badly needed!). Widened foothpaths from the new Shandon Bridge will lead all the way up to Castle Street and Daunt Square – with semi-permanent street stalls put in place to cater for the city market on Saturdays and other event days.
As for the Rockfell Investments development, although Joe Gavin is hopeful the project will get going straight away, Michael O’Donoghue has said that, as part of the conditions of planning, Rockfell must first conduct extensive archaelogical investigations on the site. UCC are being enlisted to assist. Demolition of some on-site warehousing and buildings should begin in December – but main construction isn’t due until mid-Janurary, early Feburary – excavations pending. Not far away, Frinailla Developments Grand Parade Plaza project has been undergoing excavations for almost 7 months now – interestingly, all but 4 apartments in the development have been sold. Hopefully, Rockfell won’t experience the same delays.
corkdood – I’ll get that image up soon. It’s essentially the same image as posted in my last report, but with earmarked sites and proposed developments outlined instead of existing or formally planned developments. I have to clear some of the information with involved parties beforehand, as you can understand.
*UPDATES*๐ Surprising both myself and many others, O’Flynn Construction’s Eglinton Street project, now in Further Info, has received NO objections or observations whatsoever – submission dates have passed.
๐ I forgot to mention earlier also, Reid’s Furniture Stores will be opening their first Cork store at the new Blackpool Retail Park – joining Argos, Lifestyle Sports, Atlantic Homecare & Reel Cinemas. Reid’s will occupy a 10,000sq ft unit.
๐ Also, as predicted earlier, Monsoon will be extending into the recently vacated Clinton Cards premises on Patrick’s Street. This will extend the Monsoon premises by 3,000sq ft. Annual rent is set at a record 508,000 euros p.a.
:rolleyes: And at the former Carphone Warehouse premises next to Mango on Patrick’s Street, an O2 Experience Store is to open. The existing O2 store across the street at the Savoy Centre, will be seize operations and converge with the new Experience store. A backlog of retaillers are set to fight it out for this newly vacated premises.
November 5, 2004 at 11:24 pm #732833phatman
ParticipantThis is an interesting photograph i came across, Shows some of the sites under development not included in lexington’s post above, Even though this image is several months old. Of particular notice is the eglinton street site, Actually more sizeable than it appears from the ground. Just imagine the same image including the water street development, redeveloped horgan quay, and o’ flynn’s eglinton street development, among others, what an impressive vista that would be, and hopefully will be. thanks for that web address lexington
November 6, 2004 at 10:26 pm #732834lexington
Participant*UPDATES*
๐ Cobh Marina Development Co. (Ascon Construction) have resubmitted a revised proposal for their extensive Cobh Marina development with Cobh Town Council. The project has been scaled down after a refusal issued by ABP to their previous application. Up to 135 new residential units, a hotel, moorings, cafes and cther commercial facilities facing out onto a boardwalk etc etc will be constructed if successful.
๐ John Cleary Developments has submitted an application with CCC to develop 17 business and light industrial units on lands adjoining the North Point Business Park at Kilnap (Blackpool). The development is primarily focused on nurturing start-up businesses and could provide up to 300 new jobs.
๐ The Board of the Mercy University Hospital at Grenville Place and Henry Street have applied to extend their theatre facilities by an additional floor as part of the Catherine MacCauley Block of the hospital. This will bring the structure to 5 storeys – and is designed by Reddy O’Riordan Staehli Architects – who have also been working on a new 6-storey car-park, urology and minor-surgeries development plan for the newly purchased lands at the North Mall Distellery Fields. Also related to the MUH, Sean Meehan who applied for O.P.P. for a revised 3-deck multi-storey car-park and commercial units facility at Grenville Place (built on stilts over the River Lee – adjacent to MUH) is expecting a planning decision soon. The project could have a significant impact on the River Lee aesthetics at Grenville Place – and is sure to experience major unrest if F.P.P. is sought,
And just a footnote about a prev. post I made – it seems now, that Diesel (the Cork-based men’s fashion store) have secured a short-term lease agreement on the former Clinton Cards premises on Patrick’s Street as long-term negotiations with Monsoon continue between the fashion chain and landlord, Joe Donnelly.
Here’s a drawing of the proposed new ‘super-pub’ for Little Hanover Street to the rear of Galvin’s Off-Licence on Washington Street West. I suppose this is significant in the sense that the bar will be a further addition to an area that is experiencing a notable amount of high-quality, high-aesthetic development. In it’s immediate area Jurys Hotel site is to see a 130m redevelopment by O’Callaghan Properties & Jurys Doyle Hotel Group (Riga Ltd) (see prev. posts), The Kino Arthouse Cinema is currently in planning for a new 4-storey, 3-screen cineplex designed by Dennehy + Dennehy (see prev. posts), Phillisview Properties are nearing completion on a stunning new apartment and commercial development at the junction of Sharman Crawford Bridge & Washington Street West (designed by CMG) and Frank Sheahan is completing a new 6m euro student development just down the street (designed by Jack Coughlan & Assoc., also see prev. post).
November 8, 2004 at 1:38 am #732835lexington
ParticipantWas just driving passed the new Clarion Hotel on Lapps Quay, as part of Howard Holdings’ City Quarter development – and I have to say it looks far better in the flesh than it ever did in drawings or CG images. But teak? A number of new developments around Cork are sporting teak on their skin (most notably The Cornfields development in Bishopstown) – it may look good now, but what about the up-keep? The Cornfields isn’t long built, and already the development needs to give its teak a good coat of paint. That aside, the whole Lapps Quay area is looking well.
I may have more details on the other Howard Holdings project for Albert Quay soon, but I’ll get back to you on that when I can.
November 8, 2004 at 10:23 am #732836phatman
ParticipantI actually drove past there yesterday evening too lexington, and i thought exactly the same thing as you, it really looked impressive from the city hall side. Its been a few weeks since i last drove this way, but even in that much time the difference is immense. Really promising.
November 8, 2004 at 4:14 pm #732837lexington
ParticipantHere are just some images of the development proposal for Eglinton Street by O’Flynn Construction. Design is by Wilson Architecture. The planning application with CCC is currently in Further Information. Thankfully, no objections were received for this project.

– I’ll have more nice images of other Cork projects up soon.
November 8, 2004 at 5:00 pm #732838-Donnacha-
Participantgood images there lexington, although it would be interesting to see the monatges from the west and north as well – from the quays and from copley/cotter street area. its amazing that no submissions were received – did people miss out i wonder?
November 8, 2004 at 5:42 pm #732839mickeydocs
ParticipantAn Taisce on holidays :)???
@bunch wrote:
good images there lexington, although it would be interesting to see the monatges from the west and north as well – from the quays and from copley/cotter street area. its amazing that no submissions were received – did people miss out i wonder?
November 8, 2004 at 5:57 pm #732840lexington
ParticipantMiss out? The project was given the same period for submissions as all other projects. I’m delighted no objections were lodged – it represents a number of issues – a.) the developers extensive consultation with CCC and residents has paid off along the first planning hurdle. b.) the significance of the project has been acknowledged by the community. c.) design was satisfactory d.) with relation to mickeydocs post, An Taisce had no reason to object – no overshadowing, no adverse affects on nearby structures, sufficient design. Whereas with Water Street they found the excuse of nearby warehousing, here, there exist no such structures – hence no excuses.
I’ll try and get alternate perspectives up as soon as the EIS has been submitted in the Further Information.
The development does not take away or adversely affect any surrounding buildings or residencies – it provides a fitting gateway to the southern docklands area and further compliments projects at Lapps Quay and Terence McSwiney (Albert) Quay. Its slender enough to reduce visual impediments from Jewstown and its south-western location minimises any negative impact on nearby City Hall when viewed from Lapps Quay and Parnell Place. I think it is a positive statement and addition to Cork – especially in light of many new high-rise proposals along the docklands (Water Street , Horgan’s Quay and Kennedy Quay). The tower I believe is quality – a fitting landmark signalling rebirth and growth at the mouth of the docklands and entrance to Cork city centre.
November 8, 2004 at 6:02 pm #732841mickeydocs
ParticipantWhat’s happening on Kennedy quay?
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