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  • #732282
    anto
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    Just heard that aer lingus are cancelling their daily flights between dublin & cork, another blow to the real capital. Maybe some other airline will take up the slack

    #732283
    Anonymous
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    Originally posted by sw101
    wheres that new entrance to the station going? if there was ever a place in need of a major revamp its that kip, and our stinky bus station too. cheapo version of busaras with half heartedly wavy canopy and a facade like a mules hide

    What are CIEs plans for the 1893 Kent Station?

    #732284
    sw101
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    burn it!!!

    #732285
    d_d_dallas
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    The building is going to be preserved and reused – the plans are vague but the word “cultural” crops up – not really sure… think Stack A in the IFSC.

    As for Aer Lingus pulling out of Dublin/Cork route… Aer Arran have a sharing agreement with them anyway – so there’s prob some arrangement there.

    #732286
    d_d_dallas
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    The building is going to be preserved and reused – the plans are vague but the word “cultural” crops up – not really sure… think Stack A in the IFSC.

    As for Aer Lingus pulling out of Dublin/Cork route… Aer Arran have a sharing agreement with them anyway – so there’s prob some arrangement there.

    #732287
    d_d_dallas
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    The building is going to be preserved and reused – the plans are vague but the word “cultural” crops up – not really sure… think Stack A in the IFSC.

    As for Aer Lingus pulling out of Dublin/Cork route… Aer Arran have a sharing agreement with them anyway – so there’s prob some arrangement there.

    #732288
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Originally posted by sw101
    burn it!!!

    That wouldn’t surprise me. Looking at what they did to the engine shed in Cobh (removed the roof and built a Garda station in it), anything goes where Irish Rail are concerned.

    #732289
    d_d_dallas
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    Eh – not sure why that message appears three times! Apologies to all…

    #732290
    sw101
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    Eh – not sure why that message appears three times! Apologies to all…

    Eh – not sure why that message appears three times! Apologies to all…

    Eh – not sure why that message appears three times! Apologies to all…

    Personally i think there should be put in place a comprehensive masterplan, following studies by external groups and/or a competition, for the whole shambles that is corks transport infrastructure. i mean look at the approaches from the west (where i have to drive in from). loop de loop round the station, go dockside for a bit then back up by the railway carpark and in another u-turn to get to the station. i’m pretty sure irish rail own all that land and its misuse is upsetting. surely all approach bus, rail and car transport could be accommodated on this vast site.

    and as an aside, what the hell is the story with the state of that road from silversprings up to the quays. bloody disgrace. remember they closed it for over 6 months for “improvements” and now its even worse.

    oh what i wouldnt do for a few billion euro and 3 years of calatravas time

    #732291
    corkdood
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    What are they doing with bus station? Someone mentioned canapies. It needs more than that. It needs to be bulldozed and a fresh start made.
    Maybe they are actually proud of the reputation that the toilets on the first floor have!
    I suppose knowing CIE if they do anything whatsoever with the building the workers will be out on strike.

    #732292
    crc
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    They should forget about the Parnell place site altogether and move the bus station to the railway station at the same time as they redevelop that.

    Of the small to medium sized cities (let’s face it, that’s what Cork is) that I’ve visited – the best combine their bus and rail stations.

    There’s lots of potetial for the land between kent station and the river – it could also help the dire access situation (what the hell they thought they were doing with the lwr glanmire rd is beyond me)!

    #732293
    d_d_dallas
    Participant

    What boy? Sure Cork is HUUUUUGE!

    Most of the badness about the Bus/Rail station can be directed towards CIE for it is they who have delayed for years the plans that were already decided upon. Yes – there were plans to move the bus station – but the slowness of CIE meant the boat had sailed, while the train station has been in development limbo (or hell!) for the past five years.

    Cork City Council are the ultimate at management speak – they use all the right buzz words “strategy” “study” “6/20 yr plan” and prepare these reports/plans with vigour – they have won believe it or not, international awards for their planning! But the true measure of management is delivery and the focus on delivery of results – which they probably fall down on (badly in the past – things seem to have changed).
    That said things like the Bus Station and Train Station were planned for in reports by CCC but when a loss-making sloth-like semi-state controls these, is the much a local authority can do other than formulate a strategy???

    #732294
    corkdood
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    Speaking to CIE recently I’ve been told that they have got planning permission for the redevelopment of the PArnel Place bus station and the development is going ahead so the only question now is when?

    #732295
    corkdood
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    As predicted nothing has happened with the bus or train station as yet. We are now 9 months from the start of 2005 which is the year Cork has been designated the European capital of culture. By the looks of it only St Patricks street will be completed in time. The tourists will however get to experience the culture of our dilapidated bus and rail stations amongst other things.

    #732296
    sw101
    Participant

    seamas brennan was there to plug the fact that he’s throwing 4 million squids at the bus station for refurbishment. like throwing good cash on a bonfire.

    #732297
    corkdood
    Participant

    And CIE will probably spend the money on meetings about how to do up the bus station rather than actually doing it. At any rate work won’t start until Jan 1st 2006.

    #732298
    sw101
    Participant

    Saw in the echo the school of music will be given the go ahead by bertie in the run up to the elections. Tenders returned by Jarvis in 2001 of 58 million squid must now be whittled down to around 50 million. Tight bastards. 10 million less is small change but its going to reduce the potential of this building from world class to stripped out and budgeted

    #732299
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I know that most people will disagree with me on this, but I must say I quite like the Bus Station in Cork. I think it needs some refurbishment, but overall I think it is a very under-rated building.

    #732300
    sw101
    Participant

    Yes phil, you’re right. Most people will disagree with you. And on that count, they’re all right

    #732301
    jupiter
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    yea, good god, have you ever had the unhappy chance to have to wait for a bus there, not to mention …use the toilets. Raze it.

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