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  • #706110
    GrahamH
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    Where would I find/who would I contact to aquire a list of all listed buildings in the Dundalk area? Planning Dept in local authority?

    There is a beautiful small Regency villa on the road into Dundalk, in it’s large own grounds, surrouded by beautiful mature trees that was always kept immaculately until about 6 months ago, when it’s windows & fanlight were bricked up with concrete blocks, half of it’s roof stripped of it’s slates, and is now tainted with graffitti.

    I have no doubt this has been purposly done so the house can be declared ‘unsafe’, demolished, & hence maximise site value for resale.
    Confounded by the the construction of a large apartment dev next door, that undoubtedly rang ka-ching in the head of the house’s owner. And I’m not letting this one go.

    (yes, I have been reading the The Destruction of Dublin again)

    #725534
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Where in Dundalk?

    #725535
    LOB
    Participant

    Try the local development plan
    In Dublin all the listed buildings are shown in the rear of the Development report by street
    The Planning dept is your best bet

    Ps They are now known as “protected structures” there are no longer different listing grades

    #725536
    ew
    Participant

    I called Louth co-co planning for you (dull day) and list is indeed in the development plan. The current plan they are working with is the 1997 plan. The section you want is entitled “Buildings and Structures to be preserved”.
    Bad news is that it’s not published online. Copies available through public libraries.
    Good luck!

    #725537
    LOB
    Participant

    may be of interest

    http://www.antaisce.org/cgi-bin/buildings/archives.cgi?f=keyword&keywords=louth

    Not always a huge fan of an Taisce’s actions.

    #725538
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Thanks everyone, esp ew!

    The house is next door to the Louth Hospital, on it’s left, on the main Dublin road, opposite the Statoil garage.

    Architecturally, its not exactly spectacular, but is a charming example of a late Georgian ‘gentleman’s residence’.

    Its one storey in height, pebble-dashed (painted white), with a fanlighted doorcase in the centre (with tracery) Either side is a single 12 light, Georgian sash window, presumably therefore a reception room on either side.

    It has a large exposed slate roof, and is crowned with two symetrically placed chimneys. The site is surrounded with very tall mature trees, and the house, easily visible from the road, is approached via a winding drive.
    Numerous people I’ve been in the car with driving past have commented on how delapidated it has become, and how charming it once was.
    Its one of my favourite buildings in Dundalk, so you can be damn sure I’ll be in the Library first thing tomorrow!
    I’ve seen the ‘workmen’ on site myself, so there’s no vandalising of the standard nature going on here.

    #725539
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Now that I think of it, the doorcase has corbels not columns, so we could be looking at 1840s

    #725540
    Aken
    Participant

    Bravo Graham. I wish i could help you. I think more needs to be done to protect buildings such as that. the best of luck

    #725541
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Arrrrgggghh!!!

    I could’nt get into Dundalk Library at the weekend, so I went into the National Library this morning. First, the attendant looked at me like I had 2 heads at the mention of a development plan, then I spent a good half hour looking through their index cataloge and their databases under every related title under the sun, but to no avail.
    Then a more senior attendant came out and suggested I try under Dundalk Urban District Council, so back to the catalouges and computers, again nothing. He said the local authorities are appaling for divulging info to the Ntl Library, an area he was personally responsible for.

    So he went away to get the chief Librarian, suffice to say she did’nt venture into the Reading Room but he came back and said that the Library had’nt aquired any of the Development Plans although they are persisting.

    So, back to Dundalk…..

    #725542
    sinead
    Participant

    Why not ring the conservation officer in Louth Co.Co she will know surely off hand if it is included on the list of Protected Structures or possibly of the situation that surrounds it. Her name is Jill Chadwick. I’d imagine that she would like it brought to her attention, even if it is not included on the list, it may be a building that she may consider worthy of protection and could kick start the procedure to safeguard its future if its not too late in the day – hopefully its not subject to a planning application.

    #725543
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Ah, now there’s an idea.

    As far as I can see, there is no, or ever was any planning notice at the front of the site.

    I’m getting very concerned now though as every day I pass, more and more tiles are dissappearing from the roof. Indeed I think most the slates from the front of the house have dissappeared over the weekend alone.

    It is the most sorry, dismal sight imaginable now. I’ll try and get a pic in the next couple of days. More importantly though, get it PROTECTED!!!

    #725544
    ew
    Participant

    If they are original slate they are worth a fair bit – could it be genuine theft?

    #725545
    GrahamH
    Participant

    IT’S PROTECTED!!!!!!

    Went into Dundalk Library today and slaved over lists, info & map after map, and there it was, on the Dundalk protected structures map in the midst of all those black & white lines, roads and terraces, the single orange square the size of a tic tac that I so wanted to see, indicating it’s status. Protected.
    Further research into the textulised list confirmed it, ‘an early 19th century single storey house’. Also, all of the trees surrounding the site are protected. Although, in the ‘importance’ section, there was nothing written such as ‘local’ or ‘regional’ importance. Also, under ‘comments’ where for other buildings it said ‘proposed’ or ‘omitted’, it said ‘submission’, whatever that means. Somewhat worrying.

    So I should ‘have a case’ in light of the written statement ‘The council will prevent the demolition or material alteration of buildings, features and sites listed in volume three’ (the list of all protected structures)

    How exciting! (were it not so grave)
    I’ll have to ring the conservation officer tomorrow then. They probobly keep some ludicrous hours like ‘telephone between the hours of 3 and 4.30’ but anyway.

    I feel like Desmund and Mariga Guinness in the 70’s, (only not so eccentric, and not so much money)

    #725546
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Oh, and the slates are proper slates, probably Welsh or something. It is concievable I suppose that they are being nicked, although I have seen, as I said, ‘workmen’ on the site during the day, albeit a couple of months ago now.

    #725547
    GrahamH
    Participant

    I’ll have a picture sometime this side of Christmas.

    I’ll stop posting now.

    #725548
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    “Also, under ‘comments’ where for other buildings it said ‘proposed’ or ‘omitted’, it said ‘submission’, whatever that means. “

    that suggests to me that it hasn’t actually made the list yet…. but has simply been suggested for inclusion which afaik means its not covered at the moment…

    #725549
    GrahamH
    Participant

    It was the 1996 plan, so hopefully…
    The conservation officer never rang me back today, and they’ve no answering machine or anything so I’ll try again in the morning. They’ve no e-mail address either.

    #725550
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Well the tables have turned slightly.
    It would appear that the house suffered a small fire last year (a relative went to snoop around & have a look for me). And most of the slates are in a big pile on the ground infront of the building (which he ignorantly walked over). So it could be the case that work is being carried out on the house. After all, 500 slates don’t suddenly slide off a roof over a weekend.

    Also, a gardener was there cutting the grass so it appears that the site is being maintained and the owner is ‘pro-active’

    Still I’m not holding my breath, as I have yet any builders on site.

    But for the moment at least, I retract my earlier suggestions of deliberate neglect.

    After all, you must be mad in the head to neglect such a beautiful property.

    Then again, this is Ireland.

    #725551
    urbanisto
    Participant

    Why are you so interested in the house Graham?

    #725552
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Everyone has a building they like, or several. And if you saw it/them fall into a terrible state for no immediate reason you’d probably be concerned too.

    There is nothing that makes me sicker than seeing a period building fall into disrepair. It’s sentimental, cliched and every other ‘typical’ thing in the book, I know, but I don’t care.
    And the listing system is in place for a reason…

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