libeskind / Manuel Aires Mateus on the docks
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Think his nightshots are improving though……….head for the light.
Spooky 🙂
It’s good however that we are finally getting a Daniel Liebeskind piece for the country. It will be some architectural recognition for the city and will in a way be beneficial to the tourism business.
So far we have a Calatrava, now a Liebeskind….who else can we add to the shoping list……..a couple of Brits ….Foster and Rogers, etc…..etc….Why is it good GregF?……………for anyone other than the local politicians and the Irish Tourist Board as they chalk up another marker for Dublin
Better to encourage the best in Irish architecture than to accept a sub standard piece from an international star, surely?
roche would be good and on the north quays too, we need something a bit more interesting on the north docks.
Don’y really know enough about it other than it look like a standard Libeskind to me. My comments were general. What’s important for Dublin…..that it has a Libeskind, like New York or Berlin or London or that it has a great building?
I was thinking of situations in my own city where, commissioning a big name brings kudos and is marketable, as a consequence. Even if it is evidently clear that the international star involved had very little to do with the design or the design is poor.
marketability has a lot to do with things now alright and big name architect’s bring in the crowds. he was on the radio last friday evening and to me, i must stress that, it sounded like he had only a small bit to do with it. more than likely he was briefed on it beforehand by the actual designer. this is ok though as it’s still got his brand and style. it raises the profile of the city to a regional capital. our homegrown talent hasn’t reached that sort of pinnacle yet but i feel it’s only a matter of time.
Sorry FIN, it’s not for me to say as an outsider but sometimes you can’t see things dangling from the end of your nose because it’s too close.
Believe me though, in my view Ireland has some impressive homegrown talent…….. it’s just a big pr budget that’s missing and belief in your own worth
Don’t mean “you” can’t see things dangling, I mean all of us.
I’m sure you’d see something dangling alright, heh, heh.
lol… i know what u mean but unfortunately a big name architect has more selling power not only to joe public but to the councils as well.
Which projects are you referring to AlanD.
I don’t suppose you mean Norman Foster’s Armadillo – I think it’s superb, especially on the motorway in from the ferry.Well there you are………different strokes for different folks, I guess. Don’t suppose even the most admiring advocate of Foster would consider that the armadillo comes anywhere near his best work.
Myself I find it strange that you enter from the SECC building up the creatures arse and despite having a distinctive riverside location it pays no attention to it……..except as a foreground for a photograph.
I liked that building without knowing who this “famous” architect was. It seems that that AlanD wants a protectionist market for Irish architects, while everybody else has to compete on the open market? I am writing software which should compete globally: should I demand that the gubberment buy it and ban imports of competitors?
If Irish architects could compete, they could compete anywhere : in this small market and abroad, and be famous themselves. Like the rest of the Island, or the parts of it that are private sector.
I’m not protectionist at all asdasd and would be happy to compete with any architect from anywhere and have done so, with some success.
I would suggest that if there is a parochial attitude it comes from those who commission major public buildings by famous names because of their name and the knock on positive effect that supposedly brings.
Of all the buildings recently commissioned in my city by architects whose work I greatly admire, like Chipperfield, Rogers, Grimshaw
and Foster I find their proposals lacking inspiration. Like a “ghost” of their usual workWe don’t have a Libesking though…….yet
I agree with you AlanD on your general point.
When it comes to signature architects, you only have to look at Calatrava’s Blackhall Place Bridge to see how forgettable these things can be.
When you see what he’s done in Valencia, Lyon and with the Athens Olympic Stadium – you just know the Dublin bridge (Even though I do like it) would never even feature in a retrospective of his best work.
Is it better to have a bog-standard Calatrava than a great Ian Ritchie work (The Spire) or an Irish architect’s masterpiece?Originally posted by Paul Clerkin
I think that these projects will be finished long before the U2 Tower. Sexy photoshop aside, it will be impossible to judge these buildings with out seeing plans and internals….Just what I was thinking. I don’t think renderings are going to be able to capture the full extent of what the building will be like.
Also, do you think the U2 Tower will ever get underway? 🙁
Just as a pure matter of curiousity – who is going to pay for this,- theatre, operate it etc,
if it ever gets built.A bit like the Cardiff Opera House, – I think the rendering is as much as you are likely to ever see.
as i understand it, its a commercial development, with some sort of subsidy coming as a surcharge on leases is the area.
I think it’s better to have great building by an Irish Architect.
At the time Foster’s office was designing the Armadillo it was working on the Hong Kong Airport, the biggest construction project in the world.
Perhaps he took the glasgow project home at weekends?
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