Liberty Hall

Originally posted by naz78
it is just time for ireland to be like other countries, that’s all i am saying.

and that means skyscrapers?

height does not mean good architecture – there are just as many bad or ugly skyscrapers as good ones…

the skyscraper appeals to the same primitive instinct in man as the gothic cathedral did in the middle ages – the “oh my jaysus, would ye look at that brigid” factor

We all love skyscrapers but lets face it, Dublin is not a skyscraper city. If you want skyscrapers, go to New York or Chicago. If you want a largely intact Victorian city, Dublin’s the place to be. Have some confidence in the city and less derogatory comments about Irish abilities please, it’s getting old.

If there is one real problem in Dublin it’s the damn litter, it’s everywhere. The whole freakin place is covered in rubbish and no-one seems to notice.

naz78, i can see you are too busy writing here to read the papers.

calm down lads!

poor liberty hall. it always gets knocked just like several others in the country. while i also agree with skyscrapers, there are far more important issues.

poverty, crime, transportation, drugs and rubbish to name a few. in a perfect world we could have it all yes but this is not a perfect world. i would love to see ireland change with the times and who knows it could still happen. we have plenty of time for change. there are plans for plenty of high-rise in the city of dublin anyway so all we can do is wait and see. there are plenty of cities that don’t have any high-rise at all on this planet. fighting on a site like this won’t get us any closer to a high-rise city………..

I agree with Naz in that we need taller buildings in Dublin . I have always advocated this point. It would help curb the urban sprawl and would make the city more compact and substantial.
I think however that tall buildings should be stratigically placed in the city so as to create focal points and vistas and not just plonked here and there. Putting high rise in an older established and uniformed street of 4 storeys would be ridiculous. (Visit Glasgow as an example)
Dublin docklands is an ideal location to create eyecatching radical high rise buildings and structures ….sadly it is not the case…..due to the conservative constraints set by the DDDA, vote catching TD’s and some visually illiterate members of the general public. Instead humdrum stumpy 4 storey run of the mill office developments are springing up in this prime location.
If Dublin is to compete with cities abroad as a tourist destination and a place of good living for the natives alike, it will have to adhere to high standards of architecture and civilty so as to achieve such status.
Getting the likes of big names in architecture such as internationally renowned designer Calatrava to create bridges, buildings, features etc….will add to the attraction of the city.
Blanned boring architecture, dereliction, filth, crime, etc….will forever deter the progress of Dublin city.

hey naz78, i didn’t mean to suggest you didn’t have the right to an opinion, i just wanted to mock your question about the metro, arguement, and indeed mockery, is not censorship.

i think there is some similar point to be made about skyscrapers etc, i lived for a while in new york, which of course has a fantastic skyline, along with all the other good things, and, of course, part of the reason for that is that there are lots of people who are very critical of every proposal, along with a lot of proposals, out of the mediation of extremes comes excellence. The other important thing is that for geological reasons there are only two areas in nyc with high rise, it will be three in the future, and they are all grouped together and land in the high rise zones is much fought over. Just wanting to build skysrapers to make some point is a disaster, equally well, capping the height in the ddda area is foolish when there is no cogent planning or architecture reason to do so.

As for the area of Dublin Port with numbered streets, that is the actual port where ships come in and are unloaded.

1st September 2003

Thought I’d awaken this thread wondering if anyone saw the woeful state of Liberty Hall on the 9 0’Clock News last night.
A reinactment of Larkin’s speech to the masses was played out yesterday outside the building, and the setting for the speech was a shambles of a building.
In one close-up shot of the actor playing him, behind loomed a shattered mirror glass window on the first or second floor, covered over with a sheet of hardboard (and its been like this for months because I pass it regularly)
Other shots included dirty, peeling, over-painted mosaic cladding and dirty grilles of air-conditioning units.

I know everyone on this site is well aware of the terrible state of Dublin’s landmark tall building and have complained at length about it before, but the news last night really brought it home, not least home to 500,000 viewers around the country as well.

SIPTU should be ashamed of themselves, being in posession of not only a prominent structure but a building that is an icon of the city.

By comparison, the completely empty O’Connell Bridge House is kept in immaculate condition – the last window I noticed broken on it was repaired (with identical glass, no less – SIPTU take note) within two days. Who owns this other landmark building?

According to RTÉ, SIPTU’s national executive recently approved recommendations to knock down Liberty Hall and redevelop it. Apparently, they are now in negotiations with DCC with regard to these plans.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1019/siptu.html

I think this is terrible news. I know that from siptu’s point of view it makes sense but this is an iconic building for Dublin. It should be listed not demolished.

I would like to see it restored. Maybe a cafe-bar on the top two floors aswell, so the public could enjoy the views. Well they still have to get through planning before its gone.