Lansdowne Road Stadium
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@reddy wrote:
I think they just chickened out on engineering something amazing. It can be done. (I’m sure it was money related but still…)
Looks so inelegant now. 😡
Agreed reddy.
I think anyone watching the recent World Athletics Championships and comparing the slick roof on the Olympic Stadium with this blunt example would have to feel a little agrieved that more care was not put into it.Again the comparison with Thomond is telling in the position of the truss in relation to the roof, in Thomond the truss sits above the roof and gives the stadium its strong outward expression. Unfortunately in Lansdowne the truss lurks suspiciously under the roof and makes no positive aesthetic contribution to the stadium.
Tis a pity.
here is the proposed 2016 olympic stadium in tokyo, which will be built if they win the bid contest.
not a very detailed picture, but wouldn’t it be amazing if they could build it with an elegant engineering solution.
puts our attempt at a national stadium in the shade
Well the Irish sure know how to take themselves down. A fantastic, world-class stadium to anyone’s eyes – yet all anyone here can do is run it down because a few % of seats might have a roofing pole running 5 metres above your head – and for some reason this makes the entire project, the phenomenal transformation, moot.
I was at the Shelbourne races last night where there is a wonderful view of the pearl-like grounds in the distance, glittering in the sunset – and we all agreed how fabulous it looked and was a credit to the nation.
Pity none of you are able to recognise this…
The structure is crude at best, the cladding is a very thin veneer to hide all the unrefined guts, dressing muton as lamb, and the overall form comes from a late 90s/ early 00s Dutch trendy new architecture hand book when blobs were the future….. but somehow I like it.
@pippin101 wrote:
Well the Irish sure know how to take themselves down. A fantastic, world-class stadium to anyone’s eyes – yet all anyone here can do is run it down because a few % of seats might have a roofing pole running 5 metres above your head – and for some reason this makes the entire project, the phenomenal transformation, moot.
I was at the Shelbourne races last night where there is a wonderful view of the pearl-like grounds in the distance, glittering in the sunset – and we all agreed how fabulous it looked and was a credit to the nation.
Pity none of you are able to recognise this…
Yeah yeah , the Irish are always begrudging etc etc. we’ve heard that before a million times on this site whenever somethin is criticised.
The fact is its ridiculous that with the amount of time, skill and above all money invested in this project that every seat doesn’t have a perfect view. No excuses.
Its a massive improvement and an achievement to get it built at all expecially on the same site.
Still doesn’t excuse the feck up of the structure.
@pippin101 wrote:
Well the Irish sure know how to take themselves down.
True enough pippin, there is an unhealthy amount of nay-saying on this site. You’re quite fortunate that no-one has launched a personal attack on you yet for being an idiot or blind. (You’re obviously not)
In fairness there have been plenty of positive comments on this particular thread, and the poll shows that the vast majority of people are optimistic about the project, so hopefully the flaws of the stadium can be smoothed out a bit before completion.
I have to say the vista from Ringsend was the one that I was really looking forward to as this project was developing, and I still haven’t seen it yet, so I’m really excited by your comment.
It’s pretty impressive visually from the outside. Who cares if 2.5% of the total pitch view is obscured from 1% of the seats…………the main problem is that its capacity is more than 25,000 seats short of what is currently needed (never mind what will be required in the future). Makes the stadium pretty useless, bar using for 2nd rate rugby/football matches. Gigantic waste of money and unbelievably shortsighted building a stadium that is already 10 years outdated (capacity wise) by the start of its construction!
Bring back the Bertie bowl and Eircom Park! (and sell Lansdowne Road 5yrs ago when it was still worth a small fortune!)
@reddy wrote:
Yeah yeah , the Irish are always begrudging etc etc. we’ve heard that before a million times on this site whenever somethin is criticised.
The fact is its ridiculous that with the amount of time, skill and above all money invested in this project that every seat doesn’t have a perfect view. No excuses.
Its a massive improvement and an achievement to get it built at all expecially on the same site.
Still doesn’t excuse the feck up of the structure.
it’s actually not uncommon for stadia to have more seats when they open than they’re “supposed” to have. You’ll find that additional seats are squeezed in wherever they can be in an as-built scenario. I think you’ll find that the seats described as having a restricted view are outside the original seating plan.
Not having been back, since just after they started demolition, I’m really looking forward to seeing what it looks like. I’m sure that from a “visitors” point of view it will be a million times better than that old relic that I used to go to!
@foremanjoe wrote:
True enough pippin, there is an unhealthy amount of nay-saying on this site.
Seriously, you honestly don’t get anything like it on American or British or Australian forums. Even boards.ie has the same thing.
Healthy irish skepticism doesn’t have to always turn into relentless cynicism. Japan hasn’t even built that stadium and already we’re bemoaning it’s superiority?
Aviva > Wembley, how about talking about that?
@Yixian wrote:
Seriously, you honestly don’t get anything like it on American or British or Australian forums. Even boards.ie has the same thing.
Healthy irish skepticism doesn’t have to always turn into relentless cynicism. Japan hasn’t even built that stadium and already we’re bemoaning it’s superiority?
Aviva > Wembley, how about talking about that?
This is rubbish. There’s a healthy dose of criticism not cynicism on the site.
Analysis and criticism are massively important – by far the best learning tools available to us.
Over the years of the boom we became accustomed to any old shite being thrown up across our towns and cities. Someone has to demand a higher standard.
Why should we accept a watered down version of Lansdowne just because its an improvement on the original?
Like I said its a great job overall but it deserves criticism for its shortcomings and that criticism shouldn’t be discouraged.
And would people please stop trotting out this Irish moaners thing.
@Dec56 wrote:
It’s pretty impressive visually from the outside. Who cares if 2.5% of the total pitch view is obscured from 1% of the seats…………
I’d care if I ended up in one of those seats. Tickets for Six Nations fixtures are expensive enough without being denied a view of the line outs on the other side of the pitch.:mad:
It’s a great feeling of surprise approaching Lansdowne Road (from the Grand Canal Street end) as ye go over the canal bridge and there before ye is this brilliant Sci-Fi alien type creature/structure with it’s undulating curves on the skyline in the distance. It looks great. A wonderful addition and landmark for Dublin city and the country.
@reddy wrote:
This is rubbish. There’s a healthy dose of criticism not cynicism on the site.
I agree that there is a large amount of criticism evident on these fora, unfortunately the majority of that criticism is projected towards individual contributors, with the cynicism being reserved for the architecture.
Architecture is such a subjective field that even in real world situations it is impossible have a conclusive debate on the worth of a building. Add anonymity and subtract physical interaction and most debates spiral into pointless mud-slinging contests. If one was to judge the architecture profession by the squabbles evident on this site, a positive impression would be a very improbable outcome.
(This isn’t directed at you reddy, it’s just a generalisation.)
Excellent pictures, Alonso.
(I was down having a look at it this morning as well and I can vouch that those photos are as fresh as can be:) – it’s really come on a lot since I last saw it in the flesh).
It’s interesting to see how the access points at the Lansdowne Road end are really coming together. But I’m not sure what all that work is on the Lansdowne Village side of the river is about. Are there some plans to have an extra bridge at that point? I can’t recall.
(As an aside, I hope all that extra material in the river doesn’t cause flood problems if there is a combination of heavy rain and a high tide any time soon).
Some more new ground-level shots inside the stadium posted up in the last couple of days:
http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/singlecategory.asp?PCID=121Am very interested in the pedestrian ingress/egress arrangements. I’ve seen the model but I’d love to see precisely how people will interface with the DART station. I hope we’ll have completely eliminated having fans walking across the tracks.
@pippin101 wrote:
Am very interested in the pedestrian ingress/egress arrangements. I’ve seen the model but I’d love to see precisely how people will interface with the DART station. I hope we’ll have completely eliminated having fans walking across the tracks.
The railway gates will close before and after events – blocking Lansdowne Road to allow freeflow to Dart.
A new Station Forecourt will allow loading/unloading of Dart and all patrons passing along Lansdowne Road will use a new underpass.
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