Lansdowne Road Stadium
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Amazing the way the word sustainable is trotted out by all and sundry in an election year.
Rugby ground residents reject cash offer
From The Irish IndependentTuesday, 1st May, 2007nullDUBLIN 4 residents affected by the redevelopment of Lansdowne Road stadium have been offered €75,000 each in compensation for loss of light to their homes.
But the offer has been rejected by Dublin City councillors who have sought an increased package as part of a deal to allow the developers use a half-acre strip of land in the massive €365m redevelopment project.
Yesterday a special meeting of the council’s south-east area committee decided to defer a recommendation that the land at the River Dodder walkway be handed over to the stadium’s redevelopers, pending an improved compensation package.
Some 21 householders living in O’Connell Gardens and near the Dodder walkway will be eligible for the package, which has been deemed too low at €75,000 per household.
“We’re not satisfied on the rate of progress, and will meet again on Friday morning,” council committee member Cllr Dermot Lacey (Labour) said yesterday.
“The bottom line is we’re not satisfied with the amount of compensation being paid. It’s not an acceptable offer as people will have a ring of steel behind their homes.
“We’re not looking to screw the system, but the average house will fall in price by 20pc.
“They (residents) presently have blue skies behind them, but will have a 150-foot high wall when the stadium is redeveloped.”
It is planned to transform Lansdowne Road into a 50,000-seater state-of-the-art soccer and rugby stadium which should be open for competitive matches in 2010.
Decision
But the Lansdowne Road Stadium Development Company (LRSDC) needs a decision from the council if it will hand over a half-acre strip of land at the Dodder Walkway needed for construction of the stadium.
The proposal to transfer the land must be agreed by the southeast area committee and then ratified by the full council.
A full council meeting takes place next Tuesday, and the stadium developers hope that a positive decision will be made. But councillors also want additional information on what security measures will be put in place to secure homes along the Dodder Walkway, and the effects that construction works will have on the structure of some houses. City management has recommended that councillors hand over the land in exchange for river improvement works which are expected to cost €1.5m.
Now they have become valuers as well 😮
Green light for Lansdowne Road development
Wednesday, 9 May 2007 07:36
The Lansdowne Road stadium redevelopment can now go ahead following a €2.4million compensation deal for local residents.Dublin City Council gave the go ahead yesterday evening following the compensation deal negotiated by local councillors.
As part of the agreement, the Lansdowne Road Development Company has also agreed to spend €1.5m to improve the Dodder Walk.
Fourteen households whose homes will back directly onto the new stadium wall will receive €120,000 each. And 45 other residents will get sums varying from €10,000 to €32,500.
Dublin City Council had to agree to donate half an acre of land before work could begin, requiring DART closures over two Bank Holiday weekends.
The Bertie Bowl is no more :p
I normally find planned engineering works a pain but these will be worth it!!!!
Thats good news. Will they ever just get on with building the thing. However, I wouldn’t say the Bertie Bowl was totally dead. There is some sort of a sports campus scheme planned for the Abbotstown site, and a stadium is part of the proposal, but a scaled down version. The FAI plan to move it’s HQ out here. With the Olympics planned for London in 2012, we expect to cash in on it, ie training facilities etc… An opportunity not to be missed.
( I bet too that the Abbotstown stadium will be of an adequate size, once the new Lansdowne Road stadium is up and running.)The London Olympics
A fiasco if ever there was one; will it cost £3.4bn or £9bn they just don’t know and despite it being scaled down again and again the costs just keep heading north. It should have gone to Paris the French are usually happy to underwrite such lunacy.
What is the estimate of likely income from the pre-olympic training? six figures? Low sevens?
@GregF wrote:
Thats good news. Will they ever just get on with building the thing. However, I wouldn’t say the Bertie Bowl was totally dead. There is some sort of a sports campus scheme planned for the Abbotstown site, and a stadium is part of the proposal, but a scaled down version. The FAI plan to move it’s HQ out here. With the Olympics planned for London in 2012, we expect to cash in on it, ie training facilities etc… An opportunity not to be missed.
( I bet too that the Abbotstown stadium will be of an adequate size, once the new Lansdowne Road stadium is up and running.)They have started! 😀 😀 😀 😀
I’ll genuinely miss it. For all its decrepitness (or perhaps because of it) it was a great little stadium. It’s like knocking a tatty old Georgian to put up a shiny glass ‘n’ metal cuboid in its place. Sure it’ll be cleaner and tidier, but it’s so dull in comparison.
Having said that, cracking video of the West Stand coming down can be found here 🙂
Great film..It’s like as if it was eaten away by insects.
However pity about the demolishion job done on O’Driscoll. French cynicism I detect in light of the World Cup.
Our Brian is made of stern stuff and it would take a bit more than that to dispose of him!!
Role on September!
just wondering how is Landsdowne progressing? … I am doing some research into the new US super embassy in Baghdad and I noticed that the embassy and landsdowne share the same project management – Berger Devine Yaeger…hopefully this is not a bad omen!
@alonso wrote:
Sinking the pitch requires more space as well.
Alonso, Were the technical difficulties in sinking the pitch, say 6m, into the ground really insurmountable?
You seem very well informed on this topic.
It’s a pity that was the case. Sinking the pitch would have been great way to increase capacity with all the height restrictions on north side of site.
@The Willinator wrote:
Alonso, Were the technical difficulties in sinking the pitch, say 6m, into the ground really insurmountable?
You seem very well informed on this topic.
It’s a pity that was the case. Sinking the pitch would have been great way to increase capacity with all the height restrictions on north side of site.
I don’t know Will, and it;s been well over a year since I last looked at it. If you check DCC’s website the EIS should be there. Even the non-technical summary should give an explanation. There’s only so much sinking that can be done to an existing ground as the more you go down the more you shrink the playing surface, unless you go for a Giants stadium look where a wall surrounds the pitch before the stadium starts but this negates the whole point of doing it in the first place.
@alonso wrote:
I don’t know Will, and it;s been well over a year since I last looked at it. If you check DCC’s website the EIS should be there. Even the non-technical summary should give an explanation.
1) Developer doesn’t want to sink it.
2) Developer commissions an EIS as part of the application.
3) EIS says that there will be ‘technical difficulties’ sinking the pitch.
4) ctesiphon professes himself shocked – shocked! – by the fact that an EIS tells a developer what he wants to hear.yeh exactly, but I had a nice lunch and felt uncynical at the time of writing. It’s the same methodology used to assess the use of the back pitch I’m sure.
Anyway i wanted it to get through so I’m happy with it the EIS 🙂
@alonso wrote:
I had a nice lunch and felt uncynical at the time of writing.
You’re not going soft on us are you, alonso? Back to gruel and water for you!
@alonso wrote:
Anyway i wanted it to get through so I’m happy with it the EIS 🙂
And I wanted it not to get through, so I’m picking holes in the process. Are we quits? 😉
@ctesiphon wrote:
And I wanted it not to get through, so I’m picking holes in the process. Are we quits? 😉
Ah I guess, but having been to Croker for a few games, I’m dying for the lads to get back home. The pubs of Ballybough just aren’t the same…
http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/singlecategory.asp?PCID=74
pictures of the construction. seems to be progressing well
Given the day that’s in it (another Irish free tournament begins while the eggchasers are beaten down under) I did the unprecedented thing and took the bike out at the weekend and headed round the corner to get a few pics of the work in progress down Dodder Way. They coulda been better but it’s tough enough to get an angle – perhaps a more climbing taller type local archiseeker might have another go as it develops:
From the Dodder Walk
looming over the now famous O’Connell Gardens
The West Stand from Havelock Square
Down Lansdowne Lane
The podium and public area over the DART with the tiers of the West Stand behind
Just HOW close is that to the road? The South Stand onto Lansdowne Road
The East Stand rising up
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