kildare place
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couldn’t something be done about the wall in kildare place, it makes a mess of the place and ruins the view of the museum. i know that there needs to be a barrier protecting the leinster house complex, but, the way it is now is awful.
How bizarre – I passed the place barely an hour ago thinking exactly the same thing!
Surely the wall can be moved back – it would appear there’s only a yard or something behind it.
The museum is looking stunning now, a new building has emerged from the shadows.Doesn’t really matter how good it looks, it is the shere absense of pedestrian usage east of the Dail or West of Dublin Castle – that is really the nail in Dublin city centre’s coffin IMHO. Who is seriously going to use Kildare Place anyhow?
Isn’t there a similar Garden behind the National Concert Hall? Now that is a problem, that should and could be solved – perhaps expand the program of that old Classical building – the National Concert Hall? Dunno.
Notice the ratio of Cafes to Pubs now in Baggot Street at nightime – you don’t have to go to the pub anymore to ‘go out’ for an hour or two. Which is nice if you have to meet people in the morning and don’t want to feel like you have been to the pub the night before.
Considering that one could potentially open up that park space behind the National Concert hall – through to St. Stephen’s Green directly too with some persausion.
the iveagh gardens are lovely and part of their charm is that they are so enclosed, hidden away. they are quite well used by office workers from the harcourt street area. it would be good to have a few more enterances.
as for kildare place, the building the other side of the wall looks quite handsome, what is it does anyone know. could the back of this building form part of a perimeter to kildare place with fine railings filling the gaps.
i think it is possible kildare place would be used more if it looked better and if the back enterance to the museum stayed open and if there was a small coffee and sandwich kiosk.
I accept that some of the movement which happens in the Grafton Street/Baggot Street axis could someday spill down past the side of the Shelbourne and into Kildare Place. It is a space I haven’t thought very much about actually, and is an interesting problem. I must actually go and visit the National Museum and see how that work, before I make any more observations. There is a similar space on Dawson Street that is really doing much either.
Thanks for the Iveagh Gardens name, it is years since I ventured into it. Isn’t there another secluded garden around Kevin Street College too? Just near to Camden Street, off Camden Row?
Originally posted by garethace
Isn’t there a similar Garden behind the National Concert Hall?I am not sure, but I think those gardens are belong to UCD.
Iveagh Gardens are OPW.
Yes there is a small park in an old churchyard behind Kevin Street DIT – very nice and peaceful. Must have photos here somewhere, I’ll have a look.Part of the restoration of the museum is the reopening of the ‘back entrance’ permanently.
I say ‘back’ like that as ironically this was originally planned to be the main entrance for the musuem.
It was planned that Kildare Place be a major civic space for the Victorians – with potentially another institution to be built to surround the square.
There was a big Victorian pile of a building eventually built on the site of the Dept of Agriculture – now that I think of it, wasn’t there two Georgian houses on the site of the Govt Bldgs wall, that were demolished in the late 50s – largely considered to mark the beginning of the destruction of the Georgian city.
Interesting that the NCH is mentioned – the Italinate tower of the former Exhibition Building/Winter Palace – now the NCH – was moved to Kildare Place to act as a boiler chimney for Govt Bldgs – it was later removed as it poised a security risk to the complex.What is the big government departmental granite building oposite Kildare Place? I had forgotten about that building actually.
Former Department of Industry and Commerce
(changes name with every election)
http://www.archeire.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/kildare_street/deptcommerce.htmlNice decoration – the building has some nice details, which are captured well in the photos. But ‘No Interior access’ sums it up all too well.
“Dept. of Enterpirse, Trade & Employment”
Minister: Mary Harney.its called ‘liitle school lane east’ or something along those lines. ive got a pornographic memory you know. did i spell that right?
looking straight down on Kildare Place, there are cars parked the other side of the wall, what a waste!
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What of the surface carpark that has appeaered inside St Stphens Green close to the South Boundary. so vitually opposite Iveagh House is a surface carpark adorned by galvanised pallasade railings.
I saw a short piece about the debate currently raging in the British Museum in relation to the purpose of a Museum and its collection in modern times. It appears that the curator Neil MacGregor is hoping to increase his funding from a Labour Government, by advertising the Museum as a space to appreciate simultaneously different worlds, different cultures in the context of one building. A lot of other notables, disagree with this use of the British Museum in a game of political idealisms.
Interesting debate, I am sure it is well covered on the web.
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