Irelands Ten Worst Roundabouts
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Just an interesting architectural problem I think:
http://www.cgarchitect.com/gallery/image_spotlight.asp?galleryID=15471
How to create architecture in such a low rise, sprawling environment. The likes of which Thom Mayne and so on, have looked to deal with I think.
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Would easily be Irelands best roundabout!!!!
Not mad on the hotel but in terms of additional road capacity the roundabout has it.
Also putting a few trees in a roundabout gives it a civilised feel and there only being a few ensures that visibility is not seriously impared.
Makes our M50 roundabouts look damn shabby
But just look at that for a mess of a hotel design, seriously, for the outskirts of a city? Just because it has a roundabout? Bewleys etc, etc. Lynch’s hotel beside Raheen roundabout Limerick, Red Cow etc, etc.
Libeskind, has a hotel on his pier entry:
https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2744&pagenumber=2
Maybe he should find a good roundabout so? 🙂
Given the Route of the Dublin-Cork Motorway failing to serve Limerick our American investors aren’t happy
According to Joanne Richardson the CEO of the American Chamber of Commerce Ireland,
“a significant transport infrastructure deficit remains in the Mid West region. She urged the improvement of the road network between Shannon, Limerick, Dublin and Galway.
‘Infrastructure improvement in the regions needs to be accelerated if we are to continue to attract investment and achieve balanced industrial development throughout Ireland,’ “
http://www.onbusiness.ie/2004/0216/uschamber.html
Well the Portlaoise- Limerick section should be finished by about 2015 and The Limerick-Galway section by about 2035 to coincide with Turkeys accession to the EU
Typical Dublin mindset of the NRA, if it doesn’t go to Dublin its not important.
I never understood why greater connectivity wasn’t developed between Galway, Limerick, Waterford and Cork.
If a motorway was built from Oranmore to the N8 at Tipperary; Galway and Cork would be linked by motorway via Limerick, Galway and Waterford would be 2/3rds linked.
No 45 caravans on the Dublin to Belfast motorway instead!!!!!!!
is the ennis bypass the start of such a horse trail? i think that getting a full motorway between here and there is going to take at least until 2035 as u said as there is just too much hassle to stand it it’s way. probably some rare plant or other nationally important considerations. and definately if it’s not linking dublin then what’s the point???? i know it may sound like a culchie bitching about how we never get anything down here but while i don’t generally air such views it is unbelievably true. the only reason we are getting a motorway from dublin to galway is so it’ll be easier for dubliners to come down here on bank holidays when there is a massive influx. there is a complete railway from sligo to limerick and from there i presume to cork. this would serve as major infrastructural line however it remains closed while not only a luas but now a metro for the greater dublin area. and that is besides the dart. now if anyone can see sense in that then please feel free to enlighten me.
There must be a route between Ennis and Oranmore that contains nothing other than farmland. The Burren is quite a distance from the existing route via Gort.
It is not that Dublin shouldn’t get a metro and LUAS, it is that at least Tuam to Athenry and Athenry to the proposed Shannon rail link make economic sense as stand alone projects.
I am not sure that the Sligo to Tuam section would make sense on purely economic grounds based upon current traffic flows. But certainly a Tuam to Limerick section would.
It really is a case of doing both
oh! absolutely. i’m not saying don’t have the metro cos it is well needed but am saying do this as well. the tuam/sligo one doesn’t have to be passenger. freight would work as well.
Quote “know it may sound like a culchie bitching about how we never get anything down here but while i don’t generally air such views it is unbelievably true”
It is a disgrace that Galway doesn’t receive proper recognition as a large urban centre, the same could equally be said of Limerick and Waterford.
As a University City it deserves a lot better than it has recieved. A commuter rail service would be a decent start.
ah! sure they’ll think of us eventually! 🙂 it’s absolutely stupid and this gateway hub was the greatest waste of time and money. it seems to be just a publicity ploy to say to the masses ” look we haven’t forgotten you”
Quote “this gateway hub was the greatest waste of time and money”
There were many who argued that there should have been two Gateways, namely Cork and Galway and that they should have been developed as full cities over a twenty year timeframe.
Quote “look we haven’t forgotten you”
I however think that to mix pure spatial planning with a little political reality what the NSS actually adopted was best.
The three Midlands towns Sligo and Dundalk in addition to Limerick and Waterford. This constituted an acceptable level of dilution.
But what happened next? Decentralisation
yea!! to none of these hubs… ha,ha.. in general as i said before it is a good idea but to politicions home towns is hilarious. typical of our corrupt government. not that the alternatives are any better. as i have also said before bring on a dictator!!!!!! apart from the whole killing everyone thing… that tends to just generate bad press. then we will get something done.
this price for the ennis by-pass is something else. i think we should re-tender everyone of them. spend a lot less money on them and bring in the turks.Originally published by RTE Interactive
Viking artefacts found on Waterford road route01 May 2004 09:46
A suspected Viking settlement has been discovered along the planned route of the €300m Waterford City By-Pass.The National Roads Authority has confirmed to RTÉ News that it is treating the site as one of ‘special interest’ and it could demand ‘a significant amount’ of additional expenditure.
The NRA says this site was located at Woodtown last August, and, following preliminary excavations, several artefacts were located which suggest it was a possible Viking settlement.
It is believed the planned road would affect one third of the site.
An NRA spokesman told RTÉ News that the NRA had been adopting a responsible approach by consulting with the Department of the Environment, the National Museum and the Heritage Council.
He added there had been no prior evidence of such a site, despite an in-depth planning process.He said the NRA believes that the by-pass can and should go ahead because the routing cannot be changed without restarting the planning process from the beginning.
It argues the site should either be excavated and then built on, or ‘preserved’ – in other words, built over without excavation in order to protect what is underneath.
They’ve done it again……..
Just where would we be without our NRA?
They’re hardly Roman ruins are they? Or even Stone ruins, which would have some value preserving. The vikings built in wood, a thousand years after other societies built in marble. I have yet, in fact , to visit an obvious viking ruin. Although there are parts are Dublin around ChristChurch which have been built over by the Normans – we have to strain to imagine the old trading post, or see it in reproduction.
So what exactly is the fuss? Viking architecture is shite, and did they produce much in the way of artifacts that would interest anyone outside of a specialized field of interest? I doubt it. And if so, and I so far missed the Dublivinia exhibit – then what would be in this new site that isn’t already on display. This “site” was unknown about 2 weeks ago, it was underground – it is fair to say that it would be preserved by keeping it underground.
The vikings were a materialistic, unlearned and exploitative culture. Nobody outside Ireland’s reactionary conservationist movement really gives a shit – not even in their homelands – about what this rather culturally bereft people produced. Irish culture at the time was far more advanced ( Book of Kells, etc) and is thus known outside the insular world of Ireland’s conservation movement. Norman culture was advanced. British culture was advanced. The fetishisation of the mad blonde-heads has always amused me.
And we are – given the long history of the country – going to run into these ruins as we build roads, are we not?
the Italians manage to build roads despite overturning, no doubt, roman ruins and artifacts every kilometre. We have enough viking shite in the museums. Build a road.
Ahh the Kinsale Road Roundabout, Cork city – where 3 motorways and 4 roads meet, lanes disappear half-way round and no-one is ever really sure how to get off without crashing into someone else. A true wonder of modern city planning. All I can say is thank God for the long over due and pricey 42million euro fly-over which has begun construction. Hopefully, with it’s presence, we can finally account for the 25,000 out of the 85,000 vehicles that go missing there every day.
Originally posted by asdasd
They’re hardly Roman ruins are they? Or even Stone ruins, which would have some value preserving. The vikings built in wood, a thousand years after other societies built in marbleSo what exactly is the fuss? Viking architecture is shite, and did they produce much in the way of artifacts that would interest anyone outside of a specialized field of interest? I doubt it
The Viking phase was an important phase in Irish History, the Vikings established Dublin, Cork, Waterford and Limerick, Irelands principal centres to name a few of their trading outposts.
Originally posted by asdasd
The vikings were a materialistic, unlearned and exploitative culture. Nobody outside Ireland’s reactionary conservationist movement really gives a shit – not even in their homelands – about what this rather culturally bereft people produced. Irish culture at the time was far more advanced ( Book of Kells, etc) and is thus known outside the insular world of Ireland’s conservation movement. Norman culture was advanced. British culture was advanced. The fetishisation of the mad blonde-heads has always amused me.You are some Euro-sceptic do you want to throw in a few ‘Hordes of Huns’ into your theory? It might be stating the obvious but you can’t defend yourself with a manuscript and the Renaisance was yet to return Europe to roman cultural influences. this was 900 AD
Originally posted by asdasd
And we are – given the long history of the country – going to run into these ruins as we build roads, are we not?the Italians manage to build roads despite overturning, no doubt, roman ruins and artifacts every kilometre. We have enough viking shite in the museums. Build a road.
The Granada protocol was adopted in 1986 to protect built heritage it is an important European code that cannot simply be covered in concrete. It is time for the NRA to conduct proper archaeological examination prior to advanced construction.
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