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  • #731983
    jdivision
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    They had to buy the land that forms the curvy bit of H&M off the Council. Could be the council didn’t want to sell more (although I think that’s unlikely). The Dunnes stuff above is correct. They’re closing the one at the Moore Street end and that will be redeveloped into four or five double height retail units. The library is probably moving out too.

    #731984
    Bago
    Participant

    @Graham Hickey wrote:

    Red and tan brick is already peeping through the scaffolding on Parnell Street…

    I’m quite excited about the netting come off this apartment block, it seems to be one of the highest and biggest street fronting apartment blocks in the city, about 9-10 stories and quite a long stretch of the street. Living nearby i understand the street is full of rubbish but i’m really beginning to like the street, its one of the only uniformly semi highrise streets in the city.

    #731985
    lostexpectation
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    @jdivision wrote:

    They had to buy the land that forms the curvy bit of H&M off the Council. Could be the council didn’t want to sell more (although I think that’s unlikely). The Dunnes stuff above is correct. They’re closing the one at the Moore Street end and that will be redeveloped into four or five double height retail units. The library is probably moving out too.

    to me that H&M store and whatever it was before seemed like a difficult fudge, Isn’t that suppose to be (one of the) the main entrance to the ILAC, oh do i go through H&M open door or this non-descript patio door here… ?

    #731986
    fergalr
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    I heard that the library was staying and being enlargered considerably..but that was years back. There’s been a policy change then?
    Stick it on O’Connell St so..

    #731987
    Alek Smart
    Participant

    Its worth noting how the Capel St/Bolton St/Parnell St/Domnick St area is TOTALLY ignored by Bus Atha Cliath in its wisdom…For example any Gentlemen seeking to travel to “Dublins Premier Gentlemens Club” by Public Omnibus will be sadly disappointed as will those folk who wish to go to the Cinema down that neck of the woods.
    All this wilderness in Public Transport terms whilst the apartments are already being populated.
    Ah well at least the “New” bus routes will be trundling along O Connell St……….:D

    #731988
    Bago
    Participant

    @Alek Smart wrote:

    ..For example any Gentlemen seeking to travel to “Dublins Premier Gentlemens Club” by Public Omnibus will be sadly disappointed D

    Don’t forget the protesters, saw one being collected by his wife last week, not a sight you see everyday.

    #731989
    jdivision
    Participant

    Re: The library. Dublin CIty Council has confirmed it plans to relocate it. Eventually. No timeline though

    #731990
    jdivision
    Participant

    @Bago wrote:

    I’m quite excited about the netting come off this apartment block, it seems to be one of the highest and biggest street fronting apartment blocks in the city, about 9-10 stories and quite a long stretch of the street. Living nearby i understand the street is full of rubbish but i’m really beginning to like the street, its one of the only uniformly semi highrise streets in the city.

    That’s being done by South Dublin Construction (if memory serves). British Land and ILIM sold them that part of the street. Silly decision I think, particularly given Joe O’Reilly bought out British Land soon afterwards

    #731991
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I don’t think it was silly at all; British Land secured over €100m on their 3 year investement and for Reilly the section what really matters is the one that he now holds.

    I have noted that all refurb has stopped on the section on the Moore Street side of the fountain, one wonders when this comes down and what will go up in its place?

    #731992
    aj
    Participant

    i see that the flats in dominick street are to be pulled down has anyone seen what is going up in there place?

    #731993
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Not sure aj, but I’ve some pics to post of them soon.

    Couldn’t wait till Christmas to find out what Dunnes Stores are doing with their Henry Street site and the demolished facades in what was the largest unified post-1916 terrace in the city, so I went to see the planning file. I imagine people here are interested in what they’re at also…

    So what are they doing? Modern infill? Faithful reconstruction? Pastiche job?
    Well, as you might have guessed, a mixture of all three really; most irritating on one hand, but a relief on the other. One thing in particular is very annoying however.

    This is the site today – a total of three properties was demolished:

    Here’s before with demolished facades outlined:

    You can just about make them all out there – a pair of standard, two-bay red brick properties alongside a third focal building on the far left with limestone or maybe granite pilasters and pediment etc, all dating from c.1917, Henry St having been rebuilt exceptionally quickly after the Rising.

    In the initial application it was proposed to only demolish the two left-hand buildings including the pedimented one, retaining the particularly distinguished right-hand fa

    #731994
    urbanisto
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    A nice bit of research here Graham. I had meant to see what was in store for the site but never got around to it. It is good to see that Dunnes are opting for an imposing facade although I too think its a shame that all or at least some of the elements of the original buildings be kept. However I like what they have done on South George Street and I look forward to seing the finished product here. I think Henry St can become a little monotonous with the endless unified 1917 terrace although I would only advocate minimal and high quality interventions.

    #731995
    urbanisto
    Participant

    Nor what we got with the Ilac though… but then the Ilac never has set the design world on fire

    #731996
    fergalr
    Participant

    Was in there yesterday..I can’t help but feel that they missed out on an opportunity to have a second floor arcade like in Stephen’s Green.

    #731997
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Yes, though by no means complete (the entire central section has yet to be started), the upgrade so far has been little more than a quick mall recladding job, with x amount of apartments tacked on the side.
    The non-slip granite flooring in particular looks very cheap and mis-matched, and the Mary Street elevation is also disappointing. Saying that, the refurbished central area combined with much improved Moore and Henry? Malls could be the making of the place, with these two malls in particular being radically changed. Out on Cole’s Lane you can now see the ridiculous one-and-a-half storey height of Moore Mall:

    (also this bizarre juxtaposition on Cole’s Lane!)

    What is proposed for the Ilac is something not a million miles from what fergalr mentioned there, but more like the Jervis Centre; from The Sunday Business Post four months ago: “The height of the centre will rise by 3.2 metres and two bulkheads in the central part of the mall will be removed. The plan is to create the feel of a full-length street parallel to Henry Street with double height shops all along the passageway.”

    http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2005/12/11/story10323.asp

    The food-court nature of the Parnell Mall is certainly going to be a challenge…

    Back on Henry Street, here’s a very rough idea of what Dunnes are building, composed with the cutting-edge CAD programme Paint.

    Can’t say I’d agree Stephen about Henry Street being “monotonous with the endless unified 1917 terrace” – especially with the variety of fine stock directly across the road from it. The 1917 terrace also looks fantastic in the sun with its glowing orange brickwork and crisp limestone features:

    If anything it’s the generally blocky, flat and lifeless UK high street shopfronts that need attention along here.

    But yes, as a development I too look forward to the finished Dunnes product. It’s been a long time coming when you consider George’s Street, the revamped St. Stephen’s Green Centre ‘Foodhall’, and even flippin North Earl Street! And all the while the chain’s once-flagship store was festering away in the Ilac. It’s going to be the icing on the cake for a now-thriving retail area; All the more reason for the southside to pull its socks up fast.

    Just to correct an earlier post, according to the SBP it’s the Moore Mall store that’s to be disposed of and subdivided – you’d wonder for the need of the other large store in that case…

    #731998
    Devin
    Participant

    It’s fine to demolish the blank Dunnes facade off Henry Street, but the 1917 buildings shouldn’t have been demolished, especially as they were part of a unified terrace.

    The Laughter Lounge also did this when they were redeveloping; as well as their blank facade they also demolished a couple (two, I think) of original ‘teens or ’20s buildings on Eden Quay.

    #731999
    jdivision
    Participant
    Graham Hickey wrote:
    ]
    But yes, as a development I too look forward to the finished Dunnes product. It’s been a long time coming when you consider George’s Street, the revamped St. Stephen’s Green Centre ‘Foodhall’, and even flippin North Earl Street! And all the while the chain’s once-flagship store was festering away in the Ilac. It’s going to be the icing on the cake for a now-thriving retail area]

    I think the Henry Street store will have a significant homewares element and it’s interesting that they’ve recently put in an application for a licenced restaurant as part of the store. I suspect the other Dunnes (the one closest to H&M) will be grocery and the new building from Henry Street to Ilac Centre will be drapery, homewares and the restaurant. They’ve done something similar in Ballincollig town centre in Cork.

    In addition, Some of the units at the Moore Mall end of the store (on the opposite side to the Dunnes) will also be converted into double height retail units. Gonna require the buying in of a few leases though.

    #732000
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    FACILITIES MANAGER REQUIRED: DUBLIN
    Ilac Shopping Centre, located in the heart of Dublin’s busiest shopping area, is undergoing an expansion and refurbishment. To compliment the existing management team, Irish Estates is looking to appoint an experienced Facilities Manager.

    The successful candidate will have a Facilities Management background with a detailed knowledge of the operation and maintenance of mechanical and electrical services. Responsibilities will include management of all maintenance contracts, budget management, liaison with contractors and tenants, and managing health and safety responsibilities. A degree of computer literacy is desirable as is a third level qualification. Excellent communication skills, attention to detail and strong administration skills are important as is the ability to deputise for Centre Management team members.

    Experience in a shopping centre, a major retailer or similar environment would be an advantage.
    The successful candidate would report to the Centre Director. An attractive salary will be offered to the successful candidate.

    Please send replies, including CV and current salary details to:

    Personnel Manager
    Ulysses House
    Foley Street
    Dublin 1


    #732001
    Devin
    Participant

    Will put these here.

    Lower Dominic Street flats are being demolished at the moment (only the east side).

    A new entrance to the Ilac is being constructed there at the end of the street in the first picture
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    #732002
    Lotts
    Participant

    Why are they knocking? Is the site to be used differently?

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