Hugenot House & Goldsmith House
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February 8, 2005 at 6:32 pm #707645AnonymousInactive
Does anyone by any chance have digital (or hard copies) of photos of Hugenot House or Goldsmith House before their facades were altered? Or alternatively does anyone know who designed them in their present forms?
Thanks.
Phil
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February 8, 2005 at 6:51 pm #750850DevinParticipant
I have a picture of Goldsmith House from a few years ago – I’ll root it out for you and post it tomorrow (I kind of liked its pre-cast concrete panels!)
There’s a picture a Hugenot House with its curtain walling in F McD’s The Destruction of Dublin
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February 8, 2005 at 7:49 pm #750851AnonymousInactive
Thanks for that Devin.
Phil
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February 9, 2005 at 11:32 pm #750852AnonymousParticipant
Phil,
There are prints of both for sale in the Dublin Civic Trust on Castle Street,
I have little problem with Hugenot House as I didn’t like what was there and what replaced it has aged very well, as for Goldsmith House the opposite couldn’t more of the case, did the owners never here of sand blasting?
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February 10, 2005 at 12:08 am #750853AnonymousInactive
Thanks Thomond Park.
It is interesting that both you and Devin prefered Goldsmith House with its old facade.
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February 10, 2005 at 7:40 pm #750854DevinParticipant
Goldsmith House before replacement
The lighting in this photo is quite flat so the facade looks a bit dull & lifeless, but I thought the panels looked good when they caught raking sunlight. And the whole thing was pebble-dashed & looked slightly honey-coloured in certain lights. I find the new yoke quite samey-noughties.Ground floor view (& girl eating sweets).
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February 10, 2005 at 7:44 pm #750855AnonymousInactive
You must have gone back to take the top photo hoping to meet the girl with the sweets! 🙂
Cheers for that Devin. I think it had a certain rythm to it. It will be interesting to see how the new version ages. I think they made alot of interior alterations to it. It certainly looks taller now.
Thanks again.
Phil
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February 10, 2005 at 10:09 pm #750856DevinParticipant
something like that!
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February 10, 2005 at 10:34 pm #750857Paul ClerkinKeymaster
The real travesty is the horrific building next door on Tara Street…..
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February 13, 2005 at 2:31 am #750858GrahamHParticipant
Wow – I don’t remember that building at all! Very interesting detailing – really like the curved corner and the ground floor elevation that make it look not quite real – find of floats on it. The repeating windows are great – saying that such a feature can look terrible too in the case of ‘Oisin House’ aross the road.
The new Goldsmith is currently featuring in the Erin Hotcup ad – ‘whatever happened to the land we grew up in – we lead such hectic Celtic Tiger lives etc’. Just about sums up the building 🙂Here’s a half pic of Hugenot House – only took it though for the new Stephen’s Green lanterns – look quite nice 🙂
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February 13, 2005 at 11:32 pm #750859DevinParticipant
Hugenot House’s new copper roof added 4 or 5 years ago increased its power a lot. The original granite refacing was from I gather 1990 direction (can anyone verify this?).
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February 14, 2005 at 7:29 am #750860Paul ClerkinKeymaster
i think that the copper roof and refacing were of the sme time
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February 14, 2005 at 10:06 pm #750861Paul ClerkinKeymaster
@Devin wrote:
There’s a picture a Hugenot House with its curtain walling in F McD’s The Destruction of Dublin
This is it….
and now…
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February 15, 2005 at 2:20 pm #750862GrahamHParticipant
It’s a clone of the ex-Dept of Justice – really was horrendous.
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February 16, 2005 at 10:14 pm #750863AnonymousInactive
Thanks for the images Paul. On a side note, it is interesting how much less clutter there is in the older image than the new one.
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February 17, 2005 at 10:41 am #750864urbanistoParticipant
Is there? I dont see this at all. The same lampstandards in both. More street signage in the first, bike stands etc. The only extras in the second (and its hard to see anything) are bollards and the Arches sculptor on the traffic island.
I think the renovated version works much better then its replacement. I hate this 60s curtain wall effect of steel, glass and panels. Its so uninteresting.
Whatever happened to the OPW plans to renovate/rebuild the block on the otherside of the cemetery?
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February 17, 2005 at 3:51 pm #750865AnonymousInactive
@StephenC wrote:
Is there? I dont see this at all. The same lampstandards in both. More street signage in the first, bike stands etc. The only extras in the second (and its hard to see anything) are bollards and the Arches sculptor on the traffic island.
I think the renovated version works much better then its replacement. I hate this 60s curtain wall effect of steel, glass and panels. Its so uninteresting.
The arches, the bollards and the CCTV camera pole are probably what made me think that. I suppose the time the photo was taken, the slight variation in angle, along with the fact that the older one is in black and white would add to this.
The problem that I would have with the newer version of the building is the lack of continuity between the pillars holding up the arches and the rest of the vertical elements of the facade. I am also not a major fan of the way the larger windows suddently change their size and shape halfway up.
It looks like the curtain wall is still lurking behind there somewhere being exposed every so often!
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February 18, 2005 at 9:50 pm #750866GrahamHParticipant
Agreed about the arches – a more linear link with the upper floors would have worked better.
Passed this building the other day on Adelaide Road – I think a good example of how a decent older building can be quite successfully reinvented. It is quite similar to Goldsmith House on a few levels (not that that building should have recieved this treatment). Sorry for failing light – again…
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February 18, 2005 at 10:07 pm #750867Paul ClerkinKeymaster
That was actually two separate building built around 15 years apart. Adapted by BKD and finished in 1998.
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February 18, 2005 at 10:10 pm #750868GrahamHParticipant
Really – works well well all the same 🙂
Seems they consumed most of the road here – more swanky glass crops up further down too behind a couple of Victorians. -
March 4, 2005 at 4:40 pm #750869AnonymousInactive
In general, do people think that the replacement of facades on modernist buildings is more to do with new environmental technology or the image that the building gives off?
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