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    • #708401
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Here’s a fun game.

      Well okay – a silly anorak distraction, but no matter.

      It’s inspired by the final few pages of Peter Pearson’s ‘Decorative Dublin’ where one can send many an hour racking their brains trying to name the various building features depicted without looking at the captions – if eh, so inclined…

      Here’s how it works. Any amount of pictures (though preferably groups of five) are posted by a member in a single post and named individually by sequential lettering. The pictures feature a part, an element or an abstract depiction of a Dublin building which must be sited within the canals. All members have to do is work out what building it is! Oh the wholesome fun of it all.

      The thread is subtitled Dublin but obviously other towns and cities could be done too assuming the critical mass of viewers is there. A small fee of €14,700 is charged to operate the franchise – just pm me for bank details 😀

      This may very well fall flat on its face but anyway – all you have to do is list the letters in your post and then name what you think are the featured buildings beside them. If you know all the buildings, well say that but name two or three and let others have a chance. If these prove too easy, well they’ll just have to get harder won’t they?

      The person with the most points wins a packet of smiley face erasers from Hector Greys and a €100 shopping voucher courtesy of ‘Not to Worry’ of Talbot Street, so get answering!


      (they have a sale on now by the way if interested)

      These are just testing the waters:

      A

      B

      C

      D

      E

      Name them any way you like: ‘that building next to’ or ‘xxx shop building’ or whatever 🙂

    • #765805
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      hmmmm…..

      A Todd Burns aka Pennys
      E is Portobello College I reckon

    • #765806
      shadow
      Participant

      A Jervis Street
      B -NCH
      C-Wilton Place
      D – Corner D’Olier St
      E – Portobella

    • #765807
      Anonymous
      Participant

      A> Dental Hospital Lincoln Place
      B> Morrison Chambers Dawson/Nassau St
      C Ulster Bank 30-32 College Green
      D Archers Garage
      E Hotel / Potobello College

    • #765808
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      B – Government Buildings, Merrion Street?

    • #765809
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      okay i know have them all except b…. because i’m sure its not the nch, gov buildings, or morrison chambers, but its definitely 20th classicism…

    • #765810
      lostexpectation
      Participant

      B The hotel opposite the EBS building on Westmoreland street. I ‘ve taken that photo myself its magical:)

    • #765811
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      ahah…. the old Pearl Assurance building….

    • #765812
      GrahamH
      Participant

      …and the the penny drops 🙂

      Good guesses there – can’t believe what I thought were the most difficult went the most quickly: Portobello and Todds, while the most obvious took the longest! How many 20th century classicals are there in the city?! The Ulster Bank image is actually of its Suffolk Street facade, but they’re all the same anyway.

      D is still outstanding so will be carried forward to the next round 🙂
      It’s a surprisingly unknown building for what is a very prominent site, to give a clue….
      Also c1910

      D

      F

      G

      H

      I

      The latter may seem very obscure, but it is very much so part of the architecture of its building.

    • #765813
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      I’d guess that I is the chimney on the annex (for want of a better word) to no.1 Grafton Street (Provost’s House), i.e. the bit to the right of the house as you look at it from the street

    • #765814
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      is H on Thomas Street

    • #765815
      jackwade
      Participant

      H is a buiding on Liffey street, right?

    • #765816
      Devin
      Participant

      This is good crack!
      Yeah H is beside the Epicurean Food Hall on Lr. Liffey Street.
      D is at the corner of Stepen’s Green and Dawson Street.
      G is one of two bollards at the BoI House of Lords portico, College Gn.

      Can’t get that F cupola thing! Is it out towards the D4 area somewhere?
      The chimneys … God Graham, there must be a fair few of them around. Didn’t some Georgian houses receive decorative pots like that later on? – but you are hinting that they reflect the style of the building …

    • #765817
      Devin
      Participant

      Ok I see now from rereading the first post that F must be within the canals … still flummoxed!

    • #765818
      GrahamH
      Participant

      heheheh – yes it looks like a frilly south Dublin Vicorian piece doesn’t it? But is it? Now that’s the question…

      Very well observed, and so quickly Seamus O’G – the chimney is indeed that of one of the Provost’s House’s wings. You even guessed the right-hand one correctly!
      And yes Jack, Liffey Street it is – though I see the similarity to a building on Thomas St alright:

      And trust Devin to recognise a feckin lump of granite. And the former Aer Lingus building corner feature it is indeed – very good.

      So the mystery F is carried forward….

      Go easy on this batch now, they don’t grow on trees you know – this is the first and last time two lots are being posted on the same day!

      F

      J

      K

      L

      M

    • #765819
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      ahhh I was thinking D was top of Dawson Street alright…

    • #765820
      Devin
      Participant

      That BoI bollard is actually a concrete replica Graham! – but the other of the two (on the Westmoreland St. side) is stone.

      I won’t comment on these new pictures so as someone else can have a go.

    • #765821
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Got a few of them – f is bothering me, thats a port crane in the background…

    • #765822
      Morlan
      Participant

      Ah yes, M = Custom House. I was taking photos of that door a few days ago.

    • #765823
      Anonymous
      Participant

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      Got a few of them – f is bothering me, thats a port crane in the background…

      Is it the cupolla that was taken down from the wool store in part of the Spencer Dock scheme?

    • #765824
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      K looks very much like Stokes Place, that useful shortcut between St. Stephen’s Green and Harcourt Street.

    • #765825
      Rusty Cogs
      Participant

      @Thomond Park wrote:

      Is it the cupolla that was taken down from the wool store in part of the Spencer Dock scheme?

      Nope, that one was not nearly as nice or well maintained.

    • #765826
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I can’t figure out which building it is in the docklands; the only explanation that springs to mind is that the photo has been taken from a tall building closer to the centre

      K is Harcourt Square which is given away by the ‘Iveagh Court’ on Harcourt Road it does resemble both the Mater hospital and Stokes place, three horror stories

      Coming back to A I am confused by what appears to be an overhanging tree and there are no trees at this location.

    • #765827
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @Thomond Park wrote:

      Coming back to A I am confused by what appears to be an overhanging tree and there are no trees at this location.

      I was wondering about that too, the first time I saw the picture. I originally thought that it might be a building at the back of Kevin Street, Long Lane I think, where there are trees. Obviously it’s not, though looking at the drainpipes it’s hard to reconcile the small picture (A) with the complete one.

    • #765828
      CTR
      Participant

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      Got a few of them – f is bothering me, thats a port crane in the background…

      Gotta be Pearse Street Garda Station 🙂

    • #765829
      Andrew Duffy
      Participant

      Is L the hideous Dr. Quirkey’s on O’Connell Street?

    • #765830
      GrahamH
      Participant

      It is indeed Andrew 🙂
      Though the building itself isn’t too bad – rather bizarre 1940s piece by the looks of it…

      Excellent work CTR for getting Pearse Street Garda Station – what a difficult one that was. I woudn’t have got it either admittedly.
      And yes Harcourt Square/Garda Station features with the relad Iveagh Court in the background, and the gilded fanlight of the main entrance to the Custom House there too.

      So J gets carried forward – hmmm…..

      J

      N

      O

      P

      Q

      O has been tweaked slightly to alter the background.
      Sorry pics thus far are a bit city centre-centred – if anyone else could help redress the balance that would be good.

    • #765831
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      N – Clare Street

    • #765832
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Is Q Tyrone House, the HQ of the Dept. of Education on Marlborough St.

    • #765833
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      O is Thomas Moore on College Green and Q is Tyrone House on Marlborough St.

    • #765834
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      yep i think so…

    • #765835
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Is P an office building on the west side of Earlsfort Terrace, between Upper Hatch Street and Adelaide Road. I think that building is somewhere around there. I have a suspicion that J may be the Law Society in Blackhall Place.

    • #765836
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Wrong on both counts – very wrong on the first.:o Well at least this thread is encouraging to put in a bit of cycling at the weekend:)

    • #765837
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      P is Fitzwilton house, and J is either The National Museum or National Library?

    • #765838
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Is P on D’olier Street ?

    • #765839
      hutton
      Participant

      An excellent game – My 2pence

      P – DOlier St, Gas HQ by Fitzgerald
      J – BoI Foster Place

    • #765840
      GrahamH
      Participant

      ah go back to bed.

      Well, okay not too bad. Fitzgerald’s D’Olier House is P which is presumably what you meant hutton :), and Peter.
      Nice building.

      Clare Street is very well spotted as N – a classic Dublin vista as viewed from Nassau Street, given away in the compliation by a certain cupola…
      Q is Tyrone House. Surprisingly few nine-over-sixes on major buildings in the city so those tall windows probably stood out.
      And of course Moore is O. Still enjoys the odd tipple.

      …especially if a nice Australian Cabernet Sauvignon.

      Anyone else enjoy reading ‘My trip to Historic Dublin’ sites by silly Americans?
      Can across one recently delighting over the ‘Georgian’ chimneys of the Scottish Widows in ‘Georgian Dublin’, and Moore, ‘both at least 200 years old’ 😀

      So poor J languishes at the bottom of the pile 🙁
      Come on, it’s hardly that difficult. At least Foster Place is getting warmer in that with that level of decoration it’s clearly Regency or 20th century classicisim. But which? And where?

      J

      (and shut up Devin – you always have to spoil everything)

      😉

    • #765841
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      It reminds me more of a gate lodge (or similar) that I’ve seen around somewhere, rather than one of the more imposing buildings in the city. The obvious one would be the gate lodge at the Lincoln Place entrance to TCD, but I think that was taken down some years back. Must have a look.

    • #765842
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      This is a superrb thread. Great idea. The pounds will fall off me this weekend!

      That little bit of string around Thomas Moore’s neck. What’s it for? It looks like he’s wearing a hoody.

      Quick question, Graham, about the unsolved location. Is that tree still there? I just had a hunch it might be one of the buildings on O’Connell Street.

      Any chance of another clue:D

    • #765843
      GrahamH
      Participant

      The tree is still there…

    • #765844
      Anonymous
      Inactive
      Graham Hickey wrote:
      So poor J languishes at the bottom of the pile 🙁
      Come on, it’s hardly that difficult. At least Foster Place is getting warmer in that with that level of decoration it’s clearly Regency or 20th century classicisim. But which? And where?

      J

      (and shut up Devin – you always have to spoil everything)

      ]

      I think this building is on O’Connell Street. Is it the one that is on the East side of the street, just to the north of Clery’s? (next door)

    • #765845
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Correct!
      I thought the lime tree was handing it up on a plate, but clearly not!

      Don’t have a wide view of the building but the capital depicted is up at the top of the ground floor anyway 🙂
      A strange building that isn’t particularly attractive as a whole; pompous neoclassical, highly embellished ground floor, austere neo-Georgian above, and then capped off with a modernist parapet and pediment! An excellent monument to changing times though.

      You can see in the picture that Plan B has been called into action by Paddy Power – they’re seeking to let the building upon adapting it for retail requirements via a planning application for glazed interventions to the front, amongst others.
      It won’t surprise many to learn it was lodged two days before Christmas Eve :rolleyes:

    • #765846
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      ok i’ll throw in a round or three… here’s my first selection….

      #1

      #2

      #3

      #4

      #5

      #6

      #7

    • #765847
      GrahamH
      Participant

      oooh there’s a good mix in there.

      1: Mosaic inside Bus

    • #765848
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      I think 5 is the spire of Arbour Hill church.

    • #765849
      dodger
      Participant

      6 – st audeons?

    • #765850
      Andrew Duffy
      Participant

      4 is the North Terminal at Dublin Airport.

    • #765851
      Andrew Duffy
      Participant

      Gotcha! No 7 annoyed me enough to look through the Buildings of Ireland section on Dame Street. I was close:

      http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/lord_edward_street/corporation.html

    • #765852
      LOB
      Participant

      Interesting watercolours of Dublin street scenes by David Browne
      http://www.molesworthgallery.com/Browne%20link%20page.html

    • #765853
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster
    • #765854
      Anonymous
      Participant

      1. New Ireland Dawson Street

      2. (A Guess) Embassy House in Ballsbridge

      3. Powerscourt South William Street

    • #765855
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      nope…

    • #765856
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      1 looks like it could have been that bit on the wall of the old Pelican House on Mespil Road. But that’s gone now, so has it been reassembled somewhere else?

    • #765857
      Anonymous
      Participant

      think i agree with Seamus on number 1 – Pelican House ?
      2; Microsoft in Sandyford ?

    • #765858
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Yes, it looks like a business park building, but Microsoft is a bit far out of the city…

      How very silly to get 3 mixed up with the Green building (though they are very close by) – it is of course the Mercer Hospital 🙂

    • #765859
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster
    • #765860
      BTH
      Participant

      #2 looks very like the office block beside Herbert Park Hotel – but I’m not sure whether it has an internal corner like that or not…

    • #765861
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      #2

      #8

      #9

      #10

      #11

    • #765862
      Morlan
      Participant

      #11, is that in Smithfield?

    • #765863
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      I think #9 is on Green Street East, between Sir John Rogerson’s Quay and Hanover Quay.

      I was wondering about the mosaic on the Pelican House. I remember as a very small boy being at a pantomime in that building – given by staff of the Irish Life whose building it was at the time. There was a hall with what looked liked a purpose-built stage. I wonder was the mosaic there as a “backing” for the stage, i.e., to provide a window-free section in the building.

      (between that and the lego, this is a real trip down memory lane):)

    • #765864
      Bren88
      Participant

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      I think #9 is on Green Street East, between Sir John Rogerson’s Quay and Hanover Quay.

      Nope, no. 9 is Spirt night club. Thats all thats left now of the old building. Not sure of the street name, that facade is off liffey street/abbey street.

    • #765865
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Great Strand Street or more probably the street called Lotts (continuation of GSS)- one of those, eh? It rings a bell, alright.

    • #765866
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster
    • #765867
      dodger
      Participant

      number 11 could be the church off hill street – is it St Georges?

    • #765868
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster
    • #765869
      dodger
      Participant

      …and unless i am mistaken Commerzbank house, guild street, ifsc is the modern office block at the top…

    • #765870
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      @dodger wrote:

      …and unless i am mistaken Commerzbank house, guild street, ifsc is the modern office block at the top…

      oh you’re good….

    • #765871
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      #8

      #10

    • #765872
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Haven’t a clue about 10 – Capel St area maybe?

      9 is a killer – recognise it so well I feel I pass it every day, but cannot place it 🙁
      Looks like a combo of Harcourt St Station, the Kildare St Club and the Social Welfare Office on Gardiner Street!

    • #765873
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      10 might be another trick question, if the plaque’s been moved, but is it (was it) Castle Street? One of the redbricks- can’t remember if it’s north or south side of the street though.

      *tosses coin*

      South side?

    • #765874
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Correct ctesiphon – almost opposite the Civic Trust and Barnwells…

    • #765875
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      so any takers for no 8 or do you want the answer

    • #765876
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Well I was looking in your excellent architectural archive as I thought it might have been in the zoo, and I came across the Garda Officers’ Club. I must go get my lotto ticket.:)

    • #765877
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster
    • #765878
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      I aim soon to buy a digital camera and figure out how it all works. I was wondering though, is it difficult to put pictures up on this forum, e.g., on this thread?

      In the meantime, three non-visual questions with tenuous architectural connections::)

      Which 3 Dublin streets have an Upper, Middle and Lower Section?

      Which is the only pub in Dublin to run the entire length of a street?

      Which is the only pub in Dublin which has an entrance on 3 different streets/roads?

    • #765879
      Andrew Duffy
      Participant

      Gardiner and Abbey streets both have Lower, Middle and Upper sections. Mountjoy Street used to have all three, but I think Upper and Lower are now just called Mountjoy Street.

      edited to remove wierdness

    • #765880
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      Which is the only pub in Dublin which has an entrance on 3 different streets/roads?

      Hanlons on the NCR?

    • #765881
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      As far as I know, there is still a middle Mountjoy Street – I just did a google search and it came up with, e.g. , an Irish Times article about a property on the street in October ’05.

      Hanlon’s it is indeed – doors on Old Cabra Road, North Circular Road and Annamoe Road.

    • #765882
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      As far as I know, there is still a middle Mountjoy Street – I just did a google search and it came up with, e.g. , an Irish Times article about a property on the street in October ’05.

      There is still a Middle Mountjoy Street.

      At one point there was Lower, Middle and Upper Liffey Street

    • #765883
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      The other pub question has me racking my brains

    • #765884
      LOB
      Participant

      Which is the only pub in Dublin to run the entire length of a street?

      Bodkins on Yarnhall Street 🙂

    • #765885
      Andrew Duffy
      Participant

      So what’s the third street with a Lower, Middle and Upper?

    • #765886
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      @LOB wrote:

      Which is the only pub in Dublin to run the entire length of a street?

      Bodkins on Yarnhall Street 🙂

      good call… should have figured that one myself

    • #765887
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Bodkins it is – well known to many architects:)

    • #765888
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @Andrew Duffy wrote:

      So what’s the third street with a Lower, Middle and Upper?

      Andrew, I think we’re going with Mountjoy, Gardiner and Abbey. I’m interested to hear from Phil that there used to be a Middle Liffey Street – I wonder was that the section between Abbey Street and Great Strand Street or was there a street through what is now the ILAC centre?

    • #765889
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      Andrew, I think we’re going with Mountjoy, Gardiner and Abbey. I’m interested to hear from Phil that there used to be a Middle Liffey Street – I wonder was that the section between Abbey Street and Great Strand Street or was there a street through what is now the ILAC centre?

      According to John Rocque’s 1756 map the street now referred to as Upper Liffey Street was called Middle Liffey Street and Upper Liffey Street ran up between Mary Street/Henry Street and Great Britain Street (Parnell Street), where the Ilac is. Does anyone know when it went? Was it there until the Ilac was built? Coles lane also ran parallel to this as far as what is now Parnell St, but is now the other entrance to the Ilac.

    • #765890
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Middle Gardiner Street runs from Parnell St/Summerhill to Mounjoy Square

    • #765891
      Morlan
      Participant

      Here’s some easy ones..

      1

      2

      3

      4

      5

      6

    • #765892
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      @phil wrote:

      According to John Rocque’s 1756 map the street now referred to as Upper Liffey Street was called Middle Liffey Street and Upper Liffey Street ran up between Mary Street/Henry Street and Great Britain Street (Parnell Street), where the Ilac is. Does anyone know when it went? Was it there until the Ilac was built? Coles lane also ran parallel to this as far as what is now Parnell St, but is now the other entrance to the Ilac.

      Yeah I think Upper Liffey Street was snuffed out by the ILAC

    • #765893
      Anonymous
      Participant

      6. 19-21 College Green also known as pen corner

    • #765894
      Morlan
      Participant

      Yup

    • #765895
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Is 4 in the docklands? Hannover Quay or thereabouts?

      I’m intrigued by 2.

    • #765896
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Yeah 4 is hanover quay i reckon

    • #765897
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Yer mans Gaff

    • #765898
      Morlan
      Participant

      Correct!

    • #765899
      Morlan
      Participant

      @Thomond Park wrote:

      Yer mans Gaff

      who lives there?

    • #765900
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      I know Harry Crosbie lives in the neighbourhood, but don’t know precisely where. Maybe TP was referring to him.

      Is 2 also in the docklands vicinity? Something about the juxtaposition would suggest it.

    • #765901
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      It might be that warehouse that looks out over the Grand Canal basin, with one of the new buildings on Barrow Street behind it.

      I reckon 5 is the Pepper Canister on Mount Street.

    • #765902
      Morlan
      Participant

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      I reckon 5 is the Pepper Canister on Mount Street.

      Correct, well spotted.

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      It might be that warehouse that looks out over the Grand Canal basin, with one of the new buildings on Barrow Street behind it.

      Correctish. It’s acually boxed in by a new office development. You can no longer see it from the street or the basin.

      You can access it by wandering down this hidden alleyway like I did.

    • #765903
      GrahamH
      Participant

      What an ugly building ^

      Presumably 1 is so recognisable for all as to render it unnecessary to be commented on 🙂
      I’ve always liked their floodlighting – one of the few, is not the only building in the city that uses what appears to be regular tungsten lamps: they generate a nice warm but clear glow unlike nasty sodium.

      3 is Iveagh Play House. 5 was very well spotted – would never have got that! The stonework and its condition is strikingly similar to St. Georges.

    • #765904
      Morlan
      Participant

      Well done lads! 1 is indeed the RCSI.

      Level TWO:

      Here’s some easy ones..

      1

      2

      3

      4

      5

      6

      Level THREE will really test your eye balls.

    • #765905
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Easy indeed 😉

      Managed to get all except 5, until it clicked – GPO Arcade 😀

    • #765906
      Anonymous
      Participant

      2 is on Beresford Place and its condition is a disgrace

    • #765907
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      Yeah I think Upper Liffey Street was snuffed out by the ILAC

      Thanks Paul. Isn’t it amazing the way the Ilac swallowed up so much of that area?

    • #765908
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      4 is the oild habitat / galleria on the green

    • #765909
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Is 1 the old Dolphin Hotel, now a courthouse? I’m finding it hard to reconcile the corner turret with the blocky building just visible along the left-hand edge, though…

    • #765910
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Bruxelles on Harry St?

    • #765911
      Morlan
      Participant

      1. Bruxelles
      2. Beresford Place
      4. old Habitat
      5. GPO arcade

      Anyone want to have a go at 6 & 3? (put your hand down Graham!)

    • #765912
      jdivision
      Participant

      Is 3 an office building on Dame Street?

    • #765913
      Morlan
      Participant

      @jdivision wrote:

      Is 3 an office building on Dame Street?

      Nope.

    • #765914
      Anonymous
      Participant

      3. is a fantastic example of external stonework;

      is it in institutional or private use?

    • #765915
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      No.3 Abbey Wools buildings on Abbey Street?

    • #765916
      Morlan
      Participant

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      No.3 Abbey Wools buildings on Abbey Street?

      Correct.

      Anyone get 6?

    • #765917
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      It’s bugging me – I know it or I think I should and I cannot nail it…

    • #765918
      Devin
      Participant

      Royal Hospital chapel?

    • #765919
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @Devin wrote:

      Royal Hospital chapel?

      Aye- that was in my head too. Certainly has that early classicism look to it, but the proportions look a bit slender.
      Dr Steeven’s maybe? Dublin Castle? Long Library? And then I think it’s a side door of a church somewhere… The tablet behind the crest is most unusual.

    • #765920
      LOB
      Participant

      Close Devin I think

      Great Hall Entrance north Elevation of the Royal Hospital

    • #765921
      Morlan
      Participant

      Correct!

    • #765922
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Has anyone else any pics they’d like to share?

    • #765923
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      I just remembered this old one (alas, another non-visual one):

      What is the closest “Road” to O’Connell Street?

    • #765924
      Ciaran
      Participant

      North Circular Road?

    • #765925
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @Ciaran wrote:

      North Circular Road?

      Nope.

    • #765926
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Phibsboro Road?

    • #765927
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @phil wrote:

      Phibsboro Road?

      Nope.

    • #765928
      BTH
      Participant

      Berkeley Rd. ??

    • #765929
      cobalt
      Participant

      Memorial Road (just before Matt Talbot bridge)?

    • #765930
      Frank Taylor
      Participant

      Memorial Road?

    • #765931
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Well done Cobalt and Frank – Memorial Road it is. If I recall correctly there’s not much in it between that and BTH ‘s suggestion Berkeley Road, but Memorial Road shades it.

    • #765932
      ConK
      Participant

      this is probably too easy. . .

    • #765933
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Killarney St

    • #765934
      ConK
      Participant

      Yes.
      😡

    • #765935
      Devin
      Participant

      That’s a wonderful little portico, isn’t it? This description of it is from a 1997 Dublin Civic Trust ‘Buildings at Risk’ list:

      This Doric-porticoed church front is one of the most distinguished examples of Greek revival in Ireland. It was built for a Presbyterian congregation to the design of a Scottish architect, circa 1830, with a small but monumentally-proportioned, four-columned Doric granite portico with extremely correct use of Grecian motifs. The portico is flanked by wings with severe tapering stone doorcases.

      The status of the church (at the time) is given as:

      The church had become redundant at the beginning of the 20th century, and was used for a number of years as a grain store. It became vacant in the 1980s and was gutted by fire, resulting in the loss of the original roof and the subsequent demolition of the main body of the church behind the entrance wall and portico. Failure to provide new flashings and cappings on the front wall and around the porico is resulting in serious water saturation affecting the stonework.

    • #765936
      ConK
      Participant

      This looks like an old church . . .

    • #765937
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Thats off Summerhill Parade. Is it called Hill Street? It terminated the street and was most likely originally a church. It seems alot of the parish churches of the north inner city have found new uses.

    • #765938
      GrahamH
      Participant

      …if not decent shopfront designers….

      That church on Killarney St is a fantastic little building – so austere and perfectly proportioned, it’s most surprising to suddenly happen upon it. Anyone know of its current state – haven’t seen it in about a year now….

      Four more pics here. Bit of a mixed bag:

      A

      B

      C

      D

      (B is not in an obscure city park)

    • #765939
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      D – Mater?
      A – Blessington Street?

    • #765940
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      C- Hainault House (69-71 St Stephen’s Green South).

    • #765941
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      A – Belvedere Place?

    • #765942
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Well spotted Seamus. Is this the only distinctively sloped Georgian street in Dublin aside from North Great George’s St?

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      C- Hainault House (69-71 St Stephen’s Green South).

      Correct sir – though the address was optional 🙂

      The Mater is also spot on.
      They’ve a lovely new extension built of late on Eccles Street – one of the finest infill buildings to go up in recent times in Dublin I think:

      So only the statue B is left – hmmmmm…

      Also three others:

      E

      F

      …and a giant dolls house dumped in the middle of the city – but where is it?
      G

    • #765943
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @Graham Hickey wrote:

      Correct sir – though the address was optional 🙂

      It’s the offices of the DTO- as a planner it’s my business to know. 😉

      E has an air of the Moyne Institute on College Park in Trinity about it, but I can’t remember if the windows are round-headed or not right now.
      F could be the little house behind Trinity’s walls on College Green?
      G rings a bell- is that its entrance front or its garden front?:)

    • #765944
      GrahamH
      Participant

      I guessed as much. Lovely views of the Green from the offices – it feels like a Recency London square from up there, even if seen through pre-cast concrete units 🙂

    • #765945
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      As I once heard a resident of some Brutalist London tower block say, part of the beauty of living in the building was not having to see it from outside.
      When I worked in No. 51 St Stephen’s Green a few years ago, my boss had a top floor window overlooking the park- very envious I was.

      Just uploading some pictures from today, and I thought I’d put one here. Any thoughts? If not the exact lamppost, then the place from which the picture was taken, perhaps?

    • #765946
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Beside the Liffey 😀

      Looks like the view from the James Joyce House looking over towards Ellis Quay…

    • #765947
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Spot on- damn you, Hickey!:)

      The James Joyce House is fantastic- it was my first time in it. If anyone hasn’t yet gone, go soon before the work is completed. It’s amazing to see it in a state of semi-undress.

      Another view from the top floor of the Joyce House on Usher’s Island, showing the same lamppost (this one’s not a test:) ):

    • #765948
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Is this the only distinctively sloped Georgian street in Dublin aside from North Great George’s St?

      🙂 It was the slope that made me think of it straight off, so I admit I was chancing my arm! I’ve cycled up it many times. I suppose it also doesn’t look quite as polished now as North Great George’s St does.

    • #765949
      capslock
      Participant

      Is ‘G’ the rear of the kielys on middle abbey street?

    • #765950
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      I’m also wondering about G.

      At the very top of the picture is a building with an extended skylight of sorts – I’m sure there’s a proper term for it – an elevated section of the roof which is made up almost entirely of windows. Stack A style.

      I seem to remember seeing something like that around the Earlsfort Terrace / Hatch Street area. Can’t place it though. But it might put the doll’s house around that area.

    • #765951
      urbanisto
      Participant

      It is on middle abbey street..I recognise the streetlamp attached to the building. Only used on Abbey Street. Is it the Hotel Capri?

    • #765952
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Damn you streetlamp! Sorry I keep forgetting to reply to this – G is indeed on Middle Abbey St:

      …though to be honest haven’t the faintest idea what premises it is – not Hotel Capri anyway. It’s sited just behind M&S, almost terminating the view down (Middle) Liffey St.

      The Moyne Institute is an excellent guess for E as it too is sandy-rendered and has some surviving steel windows, but it’s not it :).
      As is F a good guess, but the Chapel facade behind is of rubble stone, so can’t be it either…

    • #765953
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      its Kielys I think

    • #765954
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      is F the carmelite church on Aungier Street?

    • #765955
      Anonymous
      Participant

      The carmelite church is rendered with some exposed calp to the rear not cut stone;

      is F the Pidgeon House?

    • #765956
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      B is the Archbishop Plunket monument on Kildare Place

    • #765957
      Bren88
      Participant

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      its Kielys I think

      Yeah it is. It’s the old entrance facade.

    • #765958
      GrahamH
      Participant

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      is F the carmelite church on Aungier Street?

      Well spotted – kind of obscure.

      As is poor old Plunkett on Kildare Place (B):

      F should be fairly easy – some high quality masonry going on there…

    • #765959
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Is it Government Buildings? Small mess halls to the side.

    • #765960
      Morlan
      Participant

      I like the composition of that Plunkett photo.

    • #765961
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Is F the Westmorland / College St. side of Trinity ?

    • #765962
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Kings Inns

    • #765963
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Nope, nope and nope.

      To give a clue, if the owners/occupiers of this/these building/s were around today, the Citywest complex would be one of their favourite haunts.
      Also they’d live in Abbington in Malahide.

    • #765964
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Tyrone House? Or the RDS?

    • #765965
      GrahamH
      Participant

      oooh the RDS is a good guess.

      But no 😀

      Last clue then, that’s going to give it away: there’s an air of Greek tragedy to this place…

    • #765966
      fergalr
      Participant

      Has Newman House been suggested yet?!

    • #765967
      Morlan
      Participant

      Sorry to barge in lads, if I don’t post these now I won’t have the time later!

      a

      b

      c

      d

      e

      f

    • #765968
      DOC
      Participant

      Is F McKee Barracks on Blackhorse Avenue ?

    • #765969
      Anonymous
      Participant

      A

      The Old Jameson Distillery

    • #765970
      Morlan
      Participant

      @Thomond Park wrote:

      A

      The Old Jameson Distillery

      Ceart agat. Maith an fear.

    • #765971
      Morlan
      Participant

      @DOC wrote:

      Is F McKee Barracks on Blackhorse Avenue ?

      *buzz* Nope..

    • #765972
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Is E on the corner of College Green and Trinity Street?

      B is of course the Provost’s House.

      Is F the former Richmond Hospital/Dublin Metropolitan Courts? Doesn’t seem to be any of the Iveagh Buildings…

    • #765973
      Bren88
      Participant

      Is D the AIB Bank on the Quays. Arran quay i believe. Beside St. Paul’s church.

    • #765974
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster
    • #765975
      urbanisto
      Participant

      C is the fountain on the north side of Customs House. Commemorates the Dublin Fire Brigade and is finally back up and running again.

    • #765976
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Is F in the first set of pics (Mr Hickeys collection) the Gate Theatre perchance

    • #765977
      Morlan
      Participant

      @Graham Hickey wrote:

      Is E on the corner of College Green and Trinity Street?

      B is of course the Provost’s House.

      Is F the former Richmond Hospital/Dublin Metropolitan Courts? Doesn’t seem to be any of the Iveagh Buildings…

      E – correct
      B – correct
      F – incorrect

      @Bren88 wrote:

      Is D the AIB Bank on the Quays. Arran quay i believe. Beside St. Paul’s church.

      No

      @StephenC wrote:

      C is the fountain on the north side of Customs House. Commemorates the Dublin Fire Brigade and is finally back up and running again.

      Yes!

      @Thomond Park wrote:

      A

      The Old Jameson Distillery

      So just D and F remaining.

      d

      f

      I assure you that F is one single building.

    • #765978
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Is F the building, recently restored opposite Pearse Sq, I’m in Milan so can’t verify the exact address. It was a school I believe, now a Community Centre.

    • #765979
      Morlan
      Participant

      @lunasa wrote:

      Is F the building, recently restored opposite Pearse Sq, I’m in Milan so can’t verify the exact address. It was a school I believe, now a Community Centre.

      It’s not, sorry. 🙁

    • #765980
      Anonymous
      Participant

      F – McKee Barracks ???

      sorry just saw that somebody already said that …

    • #765981
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      are you sure its not the old hospital now court complex on north brunswick street

    • #765982
      Morlan
      Participant

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      are you sure its not the old hospital now court complex on north brunswick street

      It certainly isn’t.

      Is it time for clues? D & F are both south facing..

    • #765983
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Maybe F is that red CIE building on North Wall Quay, just at the edge of the Spencer Dock development?

      Great to see that building on the corner of Trinity Street and College Green taking its place on this thread. It’s one of my favourites. Viewed from the top of Anglesea Street it just seems to fit into that corner slot so perfectly.:)

    • #765984
      LOB
      Participant
    • #765985
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Is D the Royal Irish Academy (or somesuch) on Molesworth Street.

    • #765986
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      F: The Royal Victoria Hospital? Otherwise known as the ioneer.

    • #765987
      hutton
      Participant

      Dammit… Double posting…Ah well it is my 100 posting, so maybe such is okay 🙂

    • #765988
      hutton
      Participant

      @LOB wrote:

      Seems to be the former hotel on North wall Quay
      http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/quays/north_wall/british_rail_hotel_lge.html

      Yep..Thats F…Well spotted….If you look at the distinctive chimneys, you could say that it all appears to, eh, “stack up” 😮

    • #765989
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I think D is Number 2 Eden Quay.

      http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/quays/eden/2_lge.html

      I also agree about F. Well spotted Seamus and LOB, and thanks for the testing images Morlan.

    • #765990
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Wow – that is impressive Phil! With those dormers it had to be early 20C, but was impossible to think where!
      The IÉ building seems so obvious now too 😮 – the dome is such a charming landmark in the area, as is the building as a whole.
      The most challenging yet Morlan 🙂

      Though this is still outstanding – it’s not the Gate either I’m afraid Stephen.

      It dates from about 15 years later…

    • #765991
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Hmmmmmm.

      This building is setting some kind of a record on this thread.

      I liked the Pigeon House suggestion earlier. It has that delapidated look and a broken window which would have fitted in.

      Not to be.

      Hmmmmmmmmmm.

    • #765992
      hutton
      Participant

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      Hmmmmmm.

      This building is setting some kind of a record on this thread.

      Yeah it must be… i dont suppose it could be any of the buildings in around the Kings Inns? just that bit too early I suppose:( ….Go on Graham, give us another clue 🙂

    • #765993
      a boyle
      Participant

      is on the NCR ? toward the port ? , just a wild guess.

    • #765994
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Broadstone?

    • #765995
      LOB
      Participant

      This has been bugging me for ages

      Aldborough House, Portland Row?

    • #765996
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      ooohhh good guess

    • #765997
      LOB
      Participant

      If it is Aldborough House, I see a planning permission was lodged earlier this month to convert it into a 40 bedroom ”Day Hospital Medical Care Facility”.
      details/drawings here
      http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2569/06&backURL=Search%20Criteria%20>%20<a%20href='wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=266613%26StartIndex=1%26SortOrder=APNID:asc%26DispResultsAs=WPHAPPSEARCHRES%26BackURL=Search%20Criteria‘>Search%20Results

      If you look under view documents there are some scanned drawings

    • #765998
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Is it Marino? Not as in the Casino, but is there another dwelling within its grounds that this could be? I am guessing here, and only really going on Grahams clues.

    • #765999
      a boyle
      Participant

      @LOB wrote:

      If it is Aldborough House, I see a planning permission was lodged earlier this month to convert it into a 40 bedroom ”Day Hospital Medical Care Facility”.
      details/drawings here
      http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2569/06&backURL=Search%20Criteria%20>%20<a%20href='wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=266613%26StartIndex=1%26SortOrder=APNID:asc%26DispResultsAs=WPHAPPSEARCHRES%26BackURL=Search%20Criteria‘>Search%20Results

      If you look under view documents there are some scanned drawings

      damn , that was to be my dublin gaff. it is a bit selfish to expect me to get sick to stay there, frankly.

    • #766000
      GrahamH
      Participant

      😀

      Damn you LOB!!! Begone! –>

      Very good, Aldborough House it is.

      (the gate lodge to the right)

      Can’t believe it took that long – gave the date away, quality masonry, late Georgian sashes, an air of tragedy to the place, Earl Stratford or rather his wife very much the Abbington set of the age – what more do you want?!
      Yez are losing your touch 😉

    • #766001
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Never heard of it, mate.;)

    • #766002
      Anonymous
      Participant

      It is tucked in behind the five lamps as the image displays behind a high wall

    • #766003
      rashers
      Participant

      @ConK wrote:

      This looks like an old church . . .

      I believe that’s at the top of Langrishe Place off Summerhill.:confused:

    • #766004
      ConK
      Participant

      Langrishe Place, Yes. . . . but someone got it right on the last page.

    • #766005
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Is Langrishe Place the narrow street that has some really attractive tall red bricks that were in very poor condition a couple of years back?

    • #766006
      rashers
      Participant

      @ConK wrote:

      Langrishe Place, Yes. . . . but someone got it right on the last page.

      Sorry. 🙁 But I saw only a guess at it being in Hill St, which is about a 1/4th of a mile away from Langrishe Place. 🙂

    • #766007
      rashers
      Participant

      @Thomond Park wrote:

      Is Langrishe Place the narrow street that has some really attractive tall red bricks that were in very poor condition a couple of years back?

      As I remember Langrishe Place it had 2 story houses on both sides. If you go into Summerhill from Parnell St it would be the first turn on the left.

      At least thats how I remember it. As a kid, nearly 50 years ago, my pals and I used to race our ‘trollies’ down the hill of Langrishe Place and into Summerhill. 🙂

      Just to remain on topic I’ll post a pic very soon. 😉 I like this topic. 🙂

    • #766008
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Well in the meantime, a few more 🙂

      A

      B

      C

      D

      E

      D has tenuous architectural connections, but has become a recognisable part of one streetscape…

    • #766009
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      A is Phisborough Church – St Peters (???)

    • #766010
      sw101
      Participant

      stopcheatingbyrightclick.jpg. i love it.

    • #766011
      a boyle
      Participant

      D is roches stores on henry street. dont post one like this again , i have been tearing my hair out for an hour! not fair.:) 🙂 🙂

    • #766012
      Frank Taylor
      Participant

      B is Connaught House on Burlington Road

      D is a fairly comon pendant lamp.

    • #766013
      d_d_dallas
      Participant

      A St Peters???

      B BOI on Mespill Rd

      D Habitat or equivalent?

    • #766014
      a boyle
      Participant

      D is the lamp shade hanging in the long window of roches store (where the chocolat shop is)

    • #766015
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Well, one of fourteen lamp shades in the window a boyle, but yes, well spotted 🙂

      (even if it is’t in the window :D)

      Great interior to Chocolate Soup, if the air con rather chilly and noisy. Best mochas and most pleasant staff in Dublin:

      And the regal St. Peter’s Phibsboro/Glasnevein it is:

      Mespil Road office building spot on also d_d – nice building:

    • #766016
      Frank Taylor
      Participant

      Is C on Dame Street, near City Hall?

    • #766017
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Nope, though I see where you’re coming from.
      A certain something peeking through the balustrade may give it away…

    • #766018
      hutton
      Participant

      @Graham Hickey wrote:

      Nope, though I see where you’re coming from.
      A certain something peeking through the balustrade may give it away…

      Grrr … Ive been wrecking my head trying to figure out that grid-looking yoke in the background… Tis doing my head in…Maybe its not in Dublin at all but in Hedrek City 😀

      Anyway throwing my toss at E,what say the Four Courts – left corner of the central block?

    • #766019
      jdivision
      Participant

      Is C the church on the quays, next to Bank of Ireland (I think) with an office building in Smithfield behind it. Hutton put it into my head by mentioning the grid thing behind it.

    • #766020
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Nope – sorry jdivision 🙁

      I thought this was the easiest of all! Part of the image is one of the most iconic elements of architecture in the city!

      (A certain contrbutor’s continued abstinence on this image is much obliged ;))

      Sorry hutton, E is not the Four Courts, though certainly along those lines…

    • #766021
      Sue
      Participant

      is there a side of the GPO in there somewhere?

    • #766022
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I think C is the the south east corner of the the Custom House with part of Busaras in the background?

      Is E Bank of Ireland on College Green?

    • #766023
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      well done phil….. i’m certain that you’re correct

    • #766024
      Bren88
      Participant

      @Graham Hickey wrote:

      Thats one of the statues on the Former House of Parliment. From the house of lords portico on the east side.

    • #766025
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Almost Bren, and they’re very similar, but there’s no tell-tale projecting floodlight for it to be the Lords portico – rather it’s the principal entrance on College Green :), and the statue of what I presume to be Fidelity given the other more industrious looking statue seems more apt as Commerce.

      It was taken on a bizarre dull day in the pelting rain with a giant crane erected in the forecourt of the BoI:

      Don’t know what was going on – repair works to the roof perhaps.
      Some took advantage of the rare opportunity to take a novelty photo with their phone 🙂

      And spot on Phil regarding the Custom House and the Bus

    • #766026
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I think that building is on the corner of Lower Abbey Street and O’Connell Street (North East Corner)

    • #766027
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @phil wrote:

      I think that building is on the corner of Lower Abbey Street and O’Connell Street (North East Corner)

      No confirmation yet. Could this still be outstanding?

    • #766028
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Only cause I forgot again Seamus – oops 😮

      As if it needs confirming though – spot on Phil:

      Grand Central was too obvious to use 😀

      Two other quick easy ones:

      A

      B

      Though not in focus, it is the domed building we’re after 🙂

    • #766029
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Focus

      you ironic man the Merchants Quay project is the first and the Church on Merchants Quay the second

    • #766030
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I don’t know about the first one, but I think that the second one is the Morrison Chambers on the corner of Nassau Street and Dawson Street (Easons)

    • #766031
      GrahamH
      Participant

      The delightful Morrison Chambers it is 🙂

      And the Merchant’s Quay friary building:

      ..with surprisingly ridiculous pediments on the top floor.

      Might as well do these three then, but that’s it.

      C

      D (:))

      E

    • #766032
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      I think E is the very low railway bridge on Grand Canal Quay. Just beside that nice glass ESAT building.

    • #766033
      urbanisto
      Participant

      D is the floating thingies beside Sean O’Casey Bridge…..with a full-to-the-brim seagull eyeing the balustrade of the Boardwalk.

      Hmmm C is on Dame Street I think, or is it in Trinity College

    • #766034
      hutton
      Participant

      Rofl 😀 ; Thats a stoic looking seagull, but what has that got to do with arch? That said, I think Seamus is on the right track –

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      I think E is the very low railway bridge on Grand Canal Quay. Just beside that nice glass ESAT building.

      @Graham Hickey wrote:

      Might as well do these three then, but that’s it..

      Cant be it, is it? Tis too much fun 🙁

    • #766035
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Is C one of the buildings on the bottom part of Grafton Street? The one with Specsavers in it?

      http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/grafton_street/specsavers.html

    • #766036
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @hutton wrote:

      That said, I think Seamus is on the right track

      Or is it the bridge just off Pearse Street? Sandwith Street, I think.

      @hutton wrote:

      Cant be it, is it? Tis too much fun 🙁

      Well I guess it’s up to the rest of us to muck in then, eh?:)

    • #766037
      Sue
      Participant

      is E the underpass under harold’s cross bridge?

    • #766038
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      Or is it the bridge just off Pearse Street? Sandwith Street, I think.

      That may be more likely. I think there are more tracks on the bridge at that point so the bridge would probably be wider, which could explain the darkness over the left hand side of the picture. Unfortunately I am not in Dublin at the moment, ‘cos I’d love to go down and see.

      @Sue wrote:

      is E the underpass under harold’s cross bridge?

      Hmmm, hadn’t thought of either of the canals. Though for some reason it reminds me of some tales that have been related to me of the Liffey swim. Due to the handicapping system, the swimmers all start to bunch up coming up to O’Connell Bridge. As a result of this, and the massive width of the bridge, you get a whole heap of swimmers swimming under the bridge in almost complete darkness. Quite an experience, I’m told.

      Come to think of it, maybe it could be the underside of one of the Liffey bridges. But how would you take such a photo, except from our new bateau mouche.

      Or maybe Graham Hickey is a boating man himself?

    • #766039
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Pffft – as much as Oid loike to be roightsh, I’m not 🙂

      Your first observation was spot on Seamus – the tiny little bridge on Grand Canal Quay. An extraordinary piece of engineering; Victorian masonry at its very very best. Made up of long elegant strips of granite structured in a diagonal fashion, it is a truly remarkable thing.
      Sandwith St was close though! – just it’s a bit higher and more conventional in masonry.

      Also correct as usual Phil, very well spotted on lower Grafton Street. Definitely one of the nicest infills in the city along with its matching limestone neighbour:

      And the Se

    • #766040
      Morlan
      Participant

      a

      b

      c

      d

      e

      f

      g

    • #766041
      Morlan
      Participant

      Ohh, we posted at the same time 🙂 Plenty for them to chew on anyway,

    • #766042
      GrahamH
      Participant

      lol – how very topical 😀

    • #766043
      Morlan
      Participant

      Is that your RX8 parked under the bridge?

      H isn’t nearish to the liberties, is it?

    • #766044
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I think C is the former ICS building between D’Olier Street and Westmorland Street, and I think G is the Buger King on Lower O’Connell Street!

    • #766045
      ctesiphon
      Participant
      Graham Hickey wrote:
      And thanks for picking up the hint ctesiphon – some others would be welcome ]
      We’ll try, but the challenge is to get ones that’ll stump you in particular- might have to initiate a rule that you’re not allowed guess until someone else has tried first!.:) I have one in mind, but access probably requires Govt approval. Leave it with me.

      Morlan’s pics:
      Is F the Temple Bar Gallery and Studio?
      And B is on the tip of my tongue… bah!

    • #766046
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Is B Morans Hotel on Gardiner Street?

    • #766047
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Don’t think so – it has a nasty pinky red dirty brick, whereas that orangey brickwork and detailing almost looks Victorian…
      South Great George’s St perhaps? That cornice is tricky.

      E is the entrance to the Seamen’s Institute on Eden Quay.

      D is a fantastic one Morlan – deceptive in its impression of size.
      I’d recognise that dodgy floodlight anywhere :). Won’t give it away, other than it’s a view from a certain car park…

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      We’ll try, but the challenge is to get ones that’ll stump you in particular- might have to initiate a rule that you’re not allowed guess until someone else has tried first!.

      Quite the opposite in fact – think I’ve proved to be quite useless at this game, hence my staying firmly behind the scenes of late 😀

    • #766048
      Morlan
      Participant

      @phil wrote:

      I think C is the former ICS building between D’Olier Street and Westmorland Street,

      Yup – 1916 parade

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      Is F the Temple Bar Gallery and Studio?!

      🙁

      @phil wrote:

      I think G is the Buger King on Lower O’Connell Street!

      😀

      @Graham Hickey wrote:

      South Great George’s St perhaps?

      It looks like it belongs there, but no.

      E is the entrance to the Seamen’s Institute on Eden Quay.

      Good work

    • #766049
      d_d_dallas
      Participant

      F is the ESB building on Misery Hill (with the chimney with the “Grand Canal Harbour” banner just peeking through?)

    • #766050
      hutton
      Participant

      How about Exchequer St for B ? 🙂

    • #766051
      Sue
      Participant

      Is F the library extension at Trinity College?

    • #766052
      Morlan
      Participant

      @d_d_dallas wrote:

      F is the ESB building on Misery Hill (with the chimney with the “Grand Canal Harbour” banner just peeking through?)

      Bingo

      @hutton wrote:

      How about Exchequer St for B ? 🙂

      Incredibly loud buzzer

    • #766053
      Morlan
      Participant

      @hutton wrote:

      How about Exchequer St for B ? 🙂

      Clue: It’s a hotel

    • #766054
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Is it the Hotel above Hogans on SGSt?

      Is “A” Broadstone Station

    • #766055
      hutton
      Participant

      @StephenC wrote:

      Is it the Hotel above Hogans on SGSt? Is “A” Broadstone Station

      Re A, thats what I was thinking – Central Hotel on corner of Exchequer St – but Morlan says its not on SG St….Re B, I dont think its Broadstone as thats all Greek Revival, and this emblem is 2nd millenium classicism – what say the side of Heuston Station instead ? 😉

    • #766056
      urbanisto
      Participant

      It could also be that kippy guesthouse on the corner of Gardiner Street and Talbot Street (the name escapes me)

    • #766057
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Three out of Morlan‘s seven still look to be outstanding.

      We’re losing it lads.:p

    • #766058
      Morlan
      Participant

      @StephenC wrote:

      Is it the Hotel above Hogans on SGSt?

      Is “A” Broadstone Station

      No. But you’re close enough – think rail. Absolutely nay cigar though 🙁

      hutton wrote:
      Re A, thats what I was thinking – Central Hotel on corner of Exchequer St – but Morlan says its not on SG St….Re B, I dont think its Broadstone as thats all Greek Revival, and this emblem is 2nd millenium classicism – what say the side of Heuston Station instead ? ]

      It looks so Exchequer Streetish.. but it’s not on the southside!

      Graham, you might aswell give the answer for D. I know you’re itching to!

    • #766059
      hutton
      Participant

      Cant believe I described Broadstone as Greek Revival; it is of course Egyptian Revival – so 😮 😮 to me!

      Hey Morlan, what say Jimmys place on Amiens St for A…Choo, choo, choo 🙂

      B is really doing my head in at this stage. I think SoG is right – but its worse than he says; 4 outstanding, not 3! We are losing it :confused: 😡 🙁 …But dont give away the game just yet, I know well get there eventually –

      As for G is it on hoarding around a site under construction? Come on give us a clue;)

    • #766060
      GrahamH
      Participant

      That is one colourful post hutton 🙂

      B is so very difficult alright. So we know it’s a hotel, we know it’s on the northside, it’s probably south facing given the bright sky and sun, and appears to be very late Victorian, though with a rebuilt 1920s attic storey?

      Thought it might be Beresford Place, but no.
      Talbot St by any chance, in the middle or near the BoI outside Connolly?
      Or Parnell St perhaps?

      A is tricky too – feel like I pass it every day, but can’t place it! Those projecting bays look very distinctive.

      D looks huge, like the base of Connolly’s tower…

      …but is in fact the little clocktower of the former Mercer’s Hospital 🙂

    • #766061
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Oh. Good photo.

      But, just as a matter of interest, from which car park was the original taken?

      One would imagine it must have been either from the RCSI or St. Stephen’s Green Car Park.

      Or could it even be Drury Street?

      Nothing would now surprise me.:D

    • #766062
      Morlan
      Participant

      Hutton – G has already been answered. It’s Burger King on O’C St!

      Well done Graham. It’s the Stephen’s Green SC car park.

      OK, B is The Clifton Court Hotel/Met Bar on Eden Quay

      The red brick is typicaly Georges St/Exchq St. I knew it would throw yez off.

      And here’s a little more of A….

      Common!

    • #766063
      hutton
      Participant

      Feck, feck, feck. I would never have got that; with the string coursing band, Id have expected it to continue – and so too a floor at that level.

      A obviously isnt Connolly; so there too I am wrong:(

      And as you say G was got already. Maybe the blind (ie me who sould have seen that mentioned already) shouldnt be playing this game

      *puts on coat, gets up and goes home – head hanging in shame* 🙁 😮 🙁

    • #766064
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @Morlan wrote:

      think rail.

      I know, it’s that redbrick building on Railway Street with the nice windows. And that grey thing on the roof.:D

      Seriously though, Morlan, should we be looking at locations in or around the Pearse Street/Westland Row area?:o

    • #766065
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I think it is the Irish Rail Freight Offices beside Spencer Dock. It only dawned on me when you said rail and I saw the red brick.

      http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/quays/north_wall/cie_freightoffice.html

    • #766066
      Morlan
      Participant

      Well done Philip. 🙂

    • #766067
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I am sure Graham and Morlan have got fed up with being the only ones contributing to this, so I thought I would try to upload a few very easy ones for people to have a go at.

      A:

      B:

      C:

      D:

    • #766068
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      bites tongue…. must dig out a few for the next round

    • #766069
      Blisterman
      Participant

      Is A Heuston Station?

    • #766070
      Anonymous
      Participant

      C Iveagh Market????

      D Pepper Canister from Herbert Place

    • #766071
      DJM
      Participant

      Here’s a stab in the dark…

      A – Pearse St Station
      B – An Iveagh Trust building
      C – Pepper Cannister
      D – Civic Offices Wood Quay

    • #766072
      LOB
      Participant

      A – Pearse St Station (Westland Row)
      B – Dublin City Fruit Markets
      C – St Stephens Church (Pepper Canister)
      D – National Gallery

    • #766073
      GrahamH
      Participant

      oooh – so close to a hole in one. Alas A is Pearse Station.:D 😉

      Do the granite blocks in the National Gallery columns ever remind anyone of firelighters?

      No?

      Okay… 😮

      Four more below – took them so long ago even I barely know where they are.

      F

      G

      H

      I

    • #766074
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      A few more? Why not. These are just oldies from the archive (all within the canal ring)- I’m planning something far more dastardly if the opportunity to snap it presents itself.

      1:

      2:

      3:

      4:

      Graham- any chance you could give everyone else a head start of, say, 24 hours?:)

    • #766075
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Well done LOB. You got them all in one. Apart of course from Pearse St Station, because that doesn’t exist :D.

      Graham, Is F the railings on the North of Parnell Square and G that red brick office block on Lincoln Place where the Turkish Baths used to be?

    • #766076
      urbanisto
      Participant

      F is the railing of the Rotunda on Parnell Square South, the northside railing are blue.

      G – I agree with Lincoln Place

      H is on Talbot Street, just up towards Marlborough Street. Theres a lot of desperately-in-need-of-paint jobs along this street.

      Is No 2 the arches of The Vaults bar under Connolly

      Is No 3 around Bridgefoot Street?

    • #766077
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Is G the Elan building on Lincoln Place – opposite Trinity Gates

    • #766078
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Stephen (and others)-

      Agreed on F, G and H.

      But 2 and 3- alas, no.

    • #766079
      jdivision
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      Stephen (and others)-

      Agreed on F, G and H.

      But 2 and 3- alas, no.

      I think 2 is chq basement but if not it could be the cafe under Grand Canal Dock dart station. Is 3 somewhere in Ranelagh or maybe on the Richmond Road. Tip of the tongue but can’t remember it. Number 4 I think is off Cork St and was linked to a timber merchant

    • #766080
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @jdivision wrote:

      I think 2 is chq basement

      Spot on. I thought this one might be trickier, damn you!:)

      @jdivision wrote:

      Is 3 somewhere in Ranelagh or maybe on the Richmond Road.

      Neither.

      @jdivision wrote:

      Number 4 I think is off Cork St and was linked to a timber merchant

      You’re probably right, though the timber merchant business is news to me. I’ll leave it open in case anyone else has a more accurate (not more correct, just more accurate;) ) guess.

    • #766081
      jdivision
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      Spot on. I thought this one might be trickier, damn you!:)

      I was in it before the work started in earnest a few years ago so recognised it from that. Otherwise I think we could have been here a while. 🙂

    • #766082
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      A lot of outstanding pictures outstanding here, from two contributors.

      I wonder if 3 mightn’t be in or around Grand Parade or Northbrook Road? It does have the feel of an old railway bridge, for some reason. Maybe too “Ranelagh” though, which has already been discounted.

    • #766083
      Rory W
      Participant

      3 is Longford Street isn’t it

    • #766084
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @Rory W wrote:

      3 is Longford Street isn’t it

      Yup.

    • #766085
      GrahamH
      Participant

      oooh good guess Rory. Didn’t get that one.
      Yes the warehouse is definitely recognisable as being in the Cork St area, but cannot for the life of me think where No 1 is:

      (great pic btw ctesiphon)
      I feel I know the trees better than the building! The bond is suggestive of the 1950s, while the expansion joints hint at a very large wall indeed, rather than a flat block gable or similar. The apparent use of granite in the upper band is also odd if a Corpo development…
      Bah!

      All the above answers were correct – the front railings of the Rotunda, and the ode to red brick that is Lincoln House, on the site of the former Turkish Baths opposite the Dental Hospital:

      And a grand decaying Victorian on Talbot Street:

      And as is established practice in Ireland, the ground floor has a ginormous feck-off FX BUCKLEY FAMILY BUTCHERS double heritage shopfront partly straddling the property. Cost a bomb, while the upper floors are left to rot away. Not the fault of the ground floor tenants, but a situation representative of a city-wide problem.

      So only ctesiphon’s No1:

      and this are left:

      hmmmm…

    • #766086
      jdivision
      Participant

      Is cstephion’s No 1 just off Wilton Place and is the other one the IIB HQ

    • #766087
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      1 also reminds me a bit of Loftus Lane, at the back of the whole cinema (Virgin/UGC) complex on Parnell Street. Unlikely to be, though, if it’s been placed in the 1950’s by Graham H, who knows considerably more than me. (And at a much tenderer age, too.:D )

    • #766088
      Devin
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      Eh, Dolce & Gabbana? … Champion Sports?

    • #766089
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Yesss!!! I finally thwarted GrahamH.!:) (Sorry- I’m sure you understand.)

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      1 also reminds me a bit of Loftus Lane, at the back of the whole cinema (Virgin/UGC) complex on Parnell Street. Unlikely to be, though, if it’s been placed in the 1950’s by Graham H, who knows considerably more than me. (And at a much tenderer age, too.:D )

      Oh he makes a good argument alright, but trust your instinct on the dating front, Seamus. Maybe not as late as Virgin, but it’s not as early as the 1950s either. Not Wilton Place either, I’m afraid, jd.

      Re the warehouse- I’ll come clean. It’s opposite Grey’s pub on the corner of Ardee Street and Newmarket in the Coombe. It’d be cruel to withhold any more- you were close enough, GH and jd.

      PS Graham- fwiw, I’m thwarted by your outstanding one too. I’m presuming it’s a corner seen from under some eaves, but I’m not even sure of that.

    • #766090
      GrahamH
      Participant

      :p

      Yours is a tricky one. I was dithering between 50s and 60s – on reflection it has a slightly later quality to it, as that pinkiness we see was more of a wine colour in the 50s. It’s certainly not as late as the 1980s, let alone 1990s. The presumed granite also suggests a commercial or flagship public property perhaps?
      It really is very odd having brick continuing onto the second floor, ruling out a number of office developments of the period.

      Give us a clue – north or south side? 😉

    • #766091
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Oh I’d be wary of using words like ‘certainly’, if I were you. Seamus might start to lose faith in you.:D

      You’re right about the brick to the first floor- one of the reasons why I posted this shot. It does set it apart a bit from many other buildings it might otherwise be confused with. Flagship? Not really. Commercial? Yes, but maybe not in the traditional sense. Also, notice the lack of windows…?;)

      And it’s southside (within the canals) but that’s all I’m giving you.

      Okay- one more hint (it’s only fair, I think): the building is nothing special, but it’s in a great location deserving of something far better than this anonymous edifice.

    • #766092
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      The unsolved photo from GrahamH….

      Every time I look at it I see the underside of the roof of the Lansdowne Road West Stand, with the (relatively) new TV box on the right hand side of the photo. As it might be seen from the southbound platform at Lansdowne Road DART station, or out on Lansdowne Road itself (Dodder side of the railway).

      Yet I think the front of the roof of the stand is “straight” rather than, as shown in the photo, with regular protrusions. Plus it’s outside the canals. I’m sure the whole idea is crazy.

      A clue, perhaps.:)

    • #766093
      GrahamH
      Participant

      You can rest assured Seamus that I have never ventured inside a rugby stadium in my life :p – my closest point to Lansdowne also being the DART station.

      Though saying that, the picture is not a million miles from another rugby pitch…

    • #766094
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Croke Park?

    • #766095
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Hmm….near a rugby pitch.

      Could it be the loading bay for the Samuel Beckett theatre in Trinity – where all the backdrops and so forth are delivered. Somewhere around there.

    • #766096
      GrahamH
      Participant

      oooh we’re getting close…

    • #766097
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      @GrahamH wrote:

      So only ctesiphon’s No1:

      this one is really starting to bug me – i know i know it, I just cannot pull it out of the recesses of my mind

    • #766098
      DOC
      Participant

      Is No.1 DIT Cathal Brugha Street?

    • #766099
      DOC
      Participant

      Or possibly the little church opposite?

    • #766100
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @GrahamH wrote:

      oooh we’re getting close…

      Hmm.

      Another guess, from a location unfortunately too far away to check it out in person before posting.

      The Luce sports hall in TCD on the right of the photo, the railway bridge in the top left hand corner.

    • #766101
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Seamus- I think you might be onto something with that guess.

      DOC- Sorry, neither DIT nor the church.

      Paul- sorry for the torture. 🙂

      Another hint? It’s very close to one of the other buildings featured over the last couple of pages. If one were to visit each of those, the location of this would be immediately apparent.

    • #766102
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Ctesiphon – your one is south of the river, between the canal and the river. At this rate, it’s looking like we may need to find out if it’s D2 or D8.:o

    • #766103
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Isn’t “The Wall” the one on the lane down at the back of Guinesses, near their Enterprise Centre?
      KB2

    • #766104
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      could be – for some reason i’m sure its in d8 but that’s all i can pull out of my head…

    • #766105
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Sorry KB2- not Guinnessland. Though not a million miles away either.

      Paul/Seamus- it’s D8.

    • #766106
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @Ctesiphon wrote:

      Flagship? Not really. Commercial? Yes, but maybe not in the traditional sense. Also, notice the lack of windows…?

      @Ctesiphon wrote:

      Another hint? It’s very close to one of the other buildings featured over the last couple of pages. If one were to visit each of those, the location of this would be immediately apparent.

      @Ctesiphon wrote:

      Sorry KB2- not Guinnessland. Though not a million miles away either

      @Ctesiphon wrote:

      it’s D8

      From a stumped Sherlock Holmes: The car park at the back of the statoil garage on Ussher’s Quay.

      😀

    • #766107
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      I’m a frayed knot.:)

      Contrary to what some might think, I’m not revelling in anyone’s frustration. I’m dying for someone to get it. If anyone’s desperate for a sound night’s sleep, pm me and I can put you out of your misery.

      Also, I’ve been tinkering with some crossword-style clues, if anyone’s interested?:o

    • #766108
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Go on then – do your worst 🙂

      Yes I’d have assumed it to be in the Dublin 8 area alright – still for the life of me can’t think were.
      Must take a wander about soon. Still trying to work out the aforementioned building that it’s close to as well!

    • #766109
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      is it around aungier street dit

    • #766110
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      scrub that aungier street is still d2

    • #766111
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      scrub that aungier street is still d2

      It is, but I think adjoining streets like Bishop Street (for example) are D8.

    • #766112
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @GrahamH wrote:

      Go on then – do your worst 🙂

      My worst, you say?

      When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
      You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
      Don’t rely on Fergus to meet you at the races. (9)
      By itself. (6)

      I’m not sure if this’ll make things better or worse. I feel apologies in advance might be in order.

    • #766113
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      [quote=”
      ctesiphon”:1aqfgnv0]
      When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
      You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
      Don’t rely on Fergus to meet you at the races. (9)
      By itself. (6)

      Oh great! Crossword clues! I love crosswords! I love crossword clues! I hope he’s going to have some for us who do the simplex! l’m so ‘xcited!

      :p

    • #766114
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      My colleague, who has considerably more crossword experience than I, has suggested that the third clue needs revision. Also, he thinks I shoud clarify that the four words for a (sort of) sentence – something like ‘Baggot Street beside hospital’ or ‘bridge with stone arches’ – that gives the location of the building but not its name. Lastly, he thinks the first clue is a stinker, but I’m not changing it.:)

      So the revised clue for word three is:

      Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)

      If I have time before these clues are guessed, I’ll try to do up a little crossword and scan it in.

    • #766115
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      So the revised clue for word three is:

      Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)

      So, it must be somewhere in “Newmarket”. Or near there.

    • #766116
      dodger
      Participant

      the second word must be Green.

      I wonder does the first word have something to do with the opposite of dominiks’s place as ‘refelected’ in theliffey – this would be close to Newmarket. Though i can’t think of an eight letter word to fit this.

    • #766117
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      So, it must be somewhere in “Newmarket”. Or near there.

      Ding ding ding!!! Go to the head of the class, Seamus. 🙂

      But the second word’s not ‘green’, dodger. And you’re way closer to the first word than you might realise.

      I’ll leave it open for now- the full ‘sentence’ is worth working out, I think.

    • #766118
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Em, if there’s anybody out there who hasn’t yet started this Saturday’s version of “The Listener” crossword in The Times, could they give us a hand here.

    • #766119
      GrahamH
      Participant

      🙂

      Yeah ctesiphon, your colleague speaks wise words – bail us out here would ya?

      The Dominican clue would indeed appear to suggest a mirror image site on the opposite side of the Liffey, which fits Newmarket rather nicely, near which there is another convent according to my Dublin map (

    • #766120
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      ([whisper]Graham, just while we’re waiting for further clues, was your last photo actually the Luce Sports Hall and the railway track, or should we keep thinking[/whisper]);)

    • #766121
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
      You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
      Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)
      By itself. (6)

      In order, they form a sentence that gives the location:

      Opposite
      Gray’s
      Newmarket
      Square

      Semi-industrial comes closest, Graham. It’s the Beverly Records Management warehouse on Newmarket.

      Sweet dreams, one and all.:)

      The full shot. Note the gracefully curving tyre marks in the foreground from the local boyos.

      The corner of the building (left). The epitome of ‘the decorated shed’?

      The derelict warehouse nearby (re previous clue), and the corner of Gray’s pub (right).

    • #766122
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      I knew I knew it – I used to shortcut through Newmarket from Thomas Street on my way to the SCR

    • #766123
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Thank you, ctesiphon, for putting us out of our misery.

      That must have taken over from Aldborough House as the longest unsolved building in this great thread. And it wasn’t actually solved in the end.:o

      Obviously we need to work on our knowledge of Dublin 8.:)

    • #766124
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Indeed! Not even knowing the building in the first instance tends to generate difficulties 😮

      A great one ctesiphon, and a striking picture too of your ladies in red – don’t think it’s been mentioned.
      So what of this place – what was it built for and when? A very odd looking affair; surely they’re not Portland dressings are they? I stand by the 50s-60s estimate 🙂

      Nope Mr O’G – that earlier picture wasn’t Luce Hall in TCD 😉
      Not a million miles away though. Something of a love it or loathe it edifice.

    • #766125
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Graham, for some reason I think your unsolved image is The Museum Building in Trinity, with the Berkeley beyond it, but I cannot figure out from what angle it is taken. This of course leads me to believe that it is not it, but I decided to give it a shot anyway.

    • #766126
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Seamus et al-
      My vanity is encouraging me to ask whether the crossword clues made sense, or if they’re as baffling as ever, i.e. did you work out why the Dominicans led to ‘opposite’, for example?

      Graham-
      Don’t think the stone is Portland, though I’m pretty sure it is stone rather than concrete. I think they were purpose built as warehouses, possibly even for the company that currently occupies them today. I lived in the area a few years ago and I was struck by the ‘facadist’ nature of the buildings, as though the local authority had said ‘You can build bland boxes, but for heaven’s sake put a nice front on them!’ (I’d still lean towards a date no earlier than mid-1980s or so.:) )

      Newmarket is a strange place- it reminds me of parts of Edinburgh. I suppose this is mainly because its name recalls the Grassmarket and Haymarket, but also slightly because of its spatial quality. Maybe hard to see when it’s surrounded by crud such as the above and poxy tax-break apartments, but if you squint hard enough… This is why I said it was a dull building ill-befitting the location; I’d love to see Newmarket developed as a proper open space in the heart of the old city instead of being left to the boy-racers to practice their handbrake turns at 3 in the morning (though its openness is one of its best qualities- wouldn’t want it to be cluttered with street furniture junk and inappropriate vegetation). There’s a promising new development at the western end on the way (mentioned in a thread a while back on new Coombe developments), but I don’t know if there are any plans for the square itself. Interestingly, the square isn’t that old. The Edinburgh echoes led me to think it must have been an actual historic market square, but I heard somewhere that it was only laid out like that in the late 19th century or so. Must chase up the facts on it. Anyone know?

    • #766127
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      My vanity is encouraging me to ask whether the crossword clues made sense, or if they’re as baffling as ever, i.e. did you work out why the Dominicans led to ‘opposite’, for example?

      Well it always easier to “see” the answer to the clues when you’ve seen it…:o

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
      You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
      Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)
      By itself. (6)

      By and large, they’re good clues. I’m still not sure about #2, and #1 may need a bit of brushing up, in the unlikely event that you’ll be using it again!

      I think #4 was an excellent clue. Would absolutely not be out of place in any of the great crosswords. #3 perhaps was perhaps overstating the whole market thing – Newmarket-on-Fergus, buy and sell, the races (Newmarket). It might be better here to have divided the clue into two parts. One part could be used to generate the words “New” and “Market”, and the second part might be “at the races” or something which would lead us to think of “Newmarket”. As it stands, the word “New” would not, I think, be generated by any of the words in the current clue. Now, what such a clue would be, I really am not able to say.

      My quibble with #1 is that if the Dominicans were to look in the mirror, which has been identified by a couple of posters as the river Liffey, they would see somewhere like Aungier Street or South Great George’s Street, I would think. That’s assuming that you are talking about the Dominicans in the Friary on Dominick Street/Dorset Street. It might have been better in this case to consider the Capuchins, whose headquarters is on Halston Street but whose larger Church is the one on Church Street. Looking from there into the “mirror” would bring you much closer to the location of this warehouse. Unless of course the Dominicans were to look in the mirror at an angle, rather than along the more obvious north-south axis. Hmmm.

      I’m afraid I still don’t get the sheep connection in #2.

      And some of the above points may well be put down to the ungraciousness of the defeated:D

      Thanks for putting up the photos and the clues. Oh yeah, and the answer.:) That last photo kept me and it looks like several others entertained and puzzled for a long time.

    • #766128
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      How about:

      Fresh location for buying and selling, or for horse racing.

      ?

    • #766129
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      When the Dominicans look in the mirror, they will know their place. (8)
      You might feed your sheep here, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)
      Here, on Fergus, I’ll buy and sell you at the races. (9)
      By itself. (6)

      Thanks Seamus. Too kind.:)

      1) Dominicans = Order of Preachers = OP]opposite[/I].

      2) Feed sheep = graze; Aren’t black, or white = grey: So Gray’s.

      3) We know.

      4) (For the others, Seamus): when you multiply a number by itself you get its Square.

    • #766130
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      1) Dominicans = Order of Preachers = OP]opposite[/I].

      Oooooh, very good. I didn’t know they were the Order of Preachers. Completely distracted by the Dominicans on Dominic Street. You were right not to change the clue under duress from your colleague.

      2) Feed sheep = graze; Aren’t black, or white = grey: So Gray’s.

      You could perhaps have put in “sounds like” at the beginning of the clue here? Still good though.

    • #766131
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Yeah grey was the only one that I got 😮 – but agreed with Seamus that the stating of a location (‘here’) in the clue led us too far astray. “Munching sheep, as long as they aren’t white, or black. (5)” might be more appropriate…

      Fantastically cryptic first clue, but I think you also unintentionally led us astray with this, ctesiphon, when you suggested the Liffey theory to be “far closer than you might think” – when you were in fact really talking about the reflection. Saying that, I was wary of this, as given your usual concise self, Newmarket is hardly an accurate reflection of the Dominican complex across the Liffey, so it kinda had to be something else. The level of elusiveness employed here was also a little inconsistent with the other clues, so it didn’t really encourage one to delve much deeper.
      But all in all a very testing round 🙂 – nice neat final clue too.

      No cryptic hints regarding the below, only to say that there is no open sky in this photograph. It’s not the Museum Building alas Phil, though i see how the frilly edging resembles its string course detailing.

      Just because it’s within sight of the rugby pitch doesn’t actually mean it’s an educational building…

    • #766132
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @GrahamH wrote:

      No cryptic hints regarding the below, only to say that there is no open sky in this photograph.

      Putting it in simple terms, this photo includes a black bit on the left, a white bit in the middle and a greyish bit on the right. The white bit gives the initial impression of clouds, perhaps indicating that this photo was taken on an overcast Dublin day.

      Being pedantic, I suppose it could still be indicative of clouds, which might not necessarily be “open sky” (as in the blue stuff we see on a sunny day) in everybody’s book. But that would be too devious and clearly not what was intended in the above quote.

      So that white bit in the middle is most probably a wall.

      In summary, I think what we’re looking for here is a white wall somewhere within sight of College Park.

      Anyone know a white wall somewhere within sight of College Park?:D

    • #766133
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      To these eyes, the white and grey bits are either two similarly coloured walls, the grey one being more in shadow because the dark strip in the middle is a corner, or else two walls in the same plane with some class of expansion joint in between.

      One question- is the photo the right way up, or has it been rotated? Unlikely, but I must ask to eliminate some confusion.

      Also, Graham- to clarify, when I said dodger wat way closer to the first word than s/he might think, it wasn’t a ‘Liffey theory’ I was referring to, it was the fact that dodger used the word ‘opposite’ in his/her guess.

    • #766134
      GrahamH
      Participant

      I know! But we didn’t know then – that’s the point! 🙂

      I am really surprised the above building hasn’t been pounced on yet – it’s been discussed a number of times on this forum in relation to a specific matter of its ‘being’ (though probably before both your times cte & Seamus :o). A very prominent structure too – not at all a minor location.

      And an embarrassing correction: it is not visible from Trnity’s rugby pitch, at all in fact. However it is very near as originally stated..
      Indeed I saw it only today – definitely a building you will pass one day with the light catching on it, and will immediately correlate with the abstraction above.

    • #766135
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Oh – and it’s not tilted or otherwise doctored in any way.

    • #766136
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @GrahamH wrote:

      It’s not the Museum Building alas Phil, though i see how the frilly edging resembles its string course detailing.

      Ooh, Graham, this is causing me sleepless nights at this stage 🙂
      I have a few new ideas, but I am not entirely sure as of yet.

    • #766137
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @phil wrote:

      Ooh, Graham, this is causing me sleepless nights at this stage 🙂
      I have a few new ideas, but I am not entirely sure as of yet.

      Would some kind resident of Dublin get up on their bicycle, do a few laps of TCD, report back here and hopefully put us out of our misery?;)

    • #766138
      CM00
      Participant

      It’s blatantly the cottage at Lansdowne Road??

      .. just read through the thread properly.. oops!

    • #766139
      Anonymous
      Inactive
      Seamus O’G wrote:
      Would some kind resident of Dublin get up on their bicycle, do a few laps of TCD, report back here and hopefully put us out of our misery?]

      I have done a fair few laps at this stage (not with the sole intention of looking for this I must ad :)) and still can’t figure out where it is.

      I am not sure if it is taken from within Trinity though.

    • #766140
      CM00
      Participant

      Is it the Pav?

    • #766141
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Nope not the Pav roigsh, though it’s loike, on thash soide of the campus alroighsh CM 🙂

      Is it a campus building, or is it a city building though? Hmmm…

      I can’t give the materials away as you’ll get it instantly. All I can say is focus on the frilly edge – it is by no means a minor detail on this building. It features prominently on the facade. So dominant indeed that it’s probably not even noticable.

    • #766142
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      The meeting of the planes might suggest the Milennium wing of the NGI by Benson & Forsyth, but I can’t reconcile the ‘frilly’ bit with the sharpness of the B&F building in my mind.

      Might try the bike ride at lunchtime, Seamus.

    • #766143
      Rory W
      Participant

      Is it the Coyle Hamilton Willis Building?

    • #766144
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Is it the Kildare St Club /Alliance Francais building across the street?

    • #766145
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Afraid not Stephen – though an excellent guess. It suits it perfectly. Not Coyle Hamilton Willis either Rory – evident by the fact that the lens didn’t crack 🙂

      However neither is far off – we’re getting much warmer. Don’t think decorative motif with the frills – rather texture..

      Two quick and easy ones in the meantime 🙂

      A

      B

    • #766146
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Re the outstanding one- it’s not the extension to Leinster House, is it?

    • #766147
      Rory W
      Participant

      Is it Hibernian corner where it meets the old Norwich Union building?

    • #766148
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Spot on Rory! 😀

      At last, it can be put to bed 🙂
      As originator of the photograph, it’s impossible for me to tell if the picture was too abstract – was it? It’s very easy just to assume it looks like a reflection to everyone!

      I was going to run with this, but it would have been too easy for you lot.

      And here is the Hibernian Corner in full view, built in the mid-1970s along with two other notorious office blocks on Dawson and Nassau streets; this is definitely the most palatable, if lacking in finesse.

      Very much in the vein of standard UK office architecture of the period, the expansive glazing wrapping around the corner gives it a certain transparent quality. Apparently it has magnificent views over Trinity.

      As can be seen, the metal grids are still up, and the cladding tiles are still popping off – when is this long-running saga going to be resolved?

      Hopefully soon, as nearly the entire complex of buildings is up for letting now according to The Irish Times six weeks ago.

      http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/commercialproperty/2006/1018/1160606722578.html

      And the thread where the ’tile issue’ cropped up in 2003.

      https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=2455

    • #766149
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Oh, thank heavens!

      Well done Rory W.

    • #766150
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Is B a reflection of the the 1st phase of the Civic Offices on Wood Quay. Perhaps prompted by the passing of Sam???

      And well done Rory for finally geting the building of Dawson St. I’ll sleep easier knowing that now!

    • #766151
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Its the new addition beside City Hall I think? (B)

      And all those chaotic rooftops (A)….is it Henrietta Street by chance

    • #766152
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Its the new addition beside City Hall I think? (B)

      And all those chaotic rooftops (A)….is it Henrietta Street by chance

    • #766153
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @Rory W wrote:

      Is it Hibernian corner where it meets the old Norwich Union building?

      Well done Rory W. Thanks for putting me out of my misery 😀

    • #766154
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      The way the shadows are falling on the chimneys in A makes me think that that is an approximately East-West street. I’m going to guess Summerhill Parade.:o

    • #766155
      GrahamH
      Participant

      oooh not bad at all Seamus. Certainly on the right track. When originally taking it it looked so obvious, but in hindsight it’s quite a random picture isn’t it. We’re definitely looking up here anyway…

      Just looking at the windows here, they’re oddly similar to the new South Anne Street development.

    • #766156
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      We’re a bit behind time on these two, I think.

      I was in Dublin keeping half an eye out. No joy at all.

      :confused: 😀

    • #766157
      hutton
      Participant

      🙂

      10 Pounds down says its Parnell Square East/ Cavandish Row early in the day… I was only looking at that antique “top-up” recently 😉

      FTW! 🙂

    • #766158
      GregF
      Participant

      ………..or is it in Phibsboro?

    • #766159
      goneill
      Participant

      wicklow st?

    • #766160
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Afraid not goneill and Greg.

      You’re persistent as ever Seamus – I’m surprised you haven’t got the second one! Only clue I’ll give is that it has featured on the thread before…

      Spot on Mr hutton – it is indeed Cavendish Row 🙂

      Looking up from O’Connell Street in the morning sun. Those two flat chimneys in the middle are very eye-catching in the vista northwards.
      Not sure what the chimney in the extreme bottom left is from though – the Gate?

      So only this left – it may not be glossy in all weathers…

    • #766161
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Well done, Hutton.

      I’ve a quick question about this one (and relating generally to sunlight in Dublin), probably a gimme for most architects, who deal with these kind of factors all the time.

      I originally thought that A was probably an East-West street, because of the way the shadows are falling on the chimneys. Cavendish Row clearly isn’t.

      Would it therefore be correct to say that that photo must have been taken in the very early morning?

      It’s a fine photo, by the way. And it solves the mystery of the whereabouts of the FA Cup that was stolen years ago.:p

    • #766162
      hutton
      Participant

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      Well done, Hutton.

      Many thanks 🙂

      After figuring out the second one too – ’tis the new Ilac by the side of Roches. I knew that I knew it – good tip Graham re the surface being matt on the dry days 🙂

      So 2 happy more faces for me! 🙂 🙂

    • #766163
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      I originally thought that A was probably an East-West street, because of the way the shadows are falling on the chimneys. Cavendish Row clearly isn’t.

      Would it therefore be correct to say that that photo must have been taken in the very early morning?

      In theory, knowing the orientation of a street and examining the line of the shadows cast should be sufficient to determine the time a photo was taken. If you project back from a shadow to the object casting the shadow, this will give the exact position of the sun. (If it can be done from two separate points, the answer will be even more accurate due to triangulation.) The sun is only ever in precisely the same position twice a year, at either side of the longest/shortest days- Dec 20th = Dec 22nd; Dec 19th = Dec 23rd; June 19th = June 23rd; etc.

      So if the street above is north-south, and the sun seems low from the shadows, then I’d guess it was taken around midday in the winter, as the sun would be in the due south position at midday (moving from east to west through south as the day progresses), and the low angle would indicate winter time.

      Which side of the solstice? Only our photographer knows the answer to that.;)

      If it was an east-west street, then you could presume an early morning photo time in summer- or a late evening one! 🙂

      (The above is a methodology more than an accurate answer to your question. I’m not sure off the top of my head of the exact orientation of Cavendish Row.)

    • #766164
      SeamusOG
      Participant
      ctesiphon wrote:
      In theory, knowing the orientation of a street and examining the line of the shadows cast should be sufficient to determine the time a photo was taken. If you project back from a shadow to the object casting the shadow, this will give the exact position of the sun. (If it can be done from two separate points, the answer will be even more accurate due to triangulation.) The sun is only ever in precisely the same position twice a year, at either side of the longest/shortest days- Dec 20th = Dec 22nd]
      Thanks very much, ctesiphon, for your answer. Very informative.

      If O’Connell Street is a north-south street, which it broadly[ is though it may be at a slight angle, then Cavendish Row would run in a slightly north-west to south-east direction.

    • #766165
      -Donnacha-
      Participant

      B definitely resembles Civic Offices on Woodquay

    • #766166
      Morlan
      Participant

      Wow Graham, you’re really making a feast of this one 😀 I initialy thought Wood Quay too but that would have been be too easy. It’s a good one all the same and annoys me evertime I open this thread.

    • #766167
      hutton
      Participant

      Is it not the new Ilac so? :confused:

      Was sure it was 🙁 🙁

    • #766168
      GrahamH
      Participant

      I must apologise – simply forgot to reply. No tension heightening intended 🙂

      It is indeed Roches hutton – excellent work.

      I just spotted it in the spilling rain, and thought it would be suitably obscure.
      The warm lighting of Roches looks great whenever it’s heavily overcast. The vertical signs have just been replaced with very sharp Debenhams ones.

      Yes the Cavendish Row picture was taken about 9am-10am, and probably in the winter. I’m surprised people are a bit evasive about the orientation of Parnell Square – it’s surely one of the most ‘iconic’ elements on a Dublin map, along with the Trinity campus and St. Stephen’s Green? It’s even more skewed than O’Connell Street (due to the lie of the Gardiner lands), making the square more diagonal than vertical and hence close to a N/W-S/E orientation.

      Here’s another quick (or not) one.

    • #766169
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @GrahamH wrote:

      I’m surprised people are a bit evasive about the orientation of Parnell Square – it’s surely one of the most ‘iconic’ elements on a Dublin map, along with the Trinity campus and St. Stephen’s Green? It’s even more skewed than O’Connell Street (due to the lie of the Gardiner lands), making the square more diagonal than vertical and hence close to a N/W-S/E orientation.

      😮
      Perhaps some of us didn’t know where Cavendish Row was? (It’s not marked by name on any map I have.)

      But I’d have to disagree about the ‘iconic’ status of Parnell Square on maps- I think that depends completely on the map you’re using. My daily reference map is the OSI Dublin City and District Street Guide (6th Ed.), on which Parnell Sq is fairly unobtrusive, certainly much less noticeable than Grangegorman, St Stephen’s Green, Merrion Square, Mountjoy Square, Trinity, IFSC and St James’s Hospital, to name just a few on the same two-page sheet.

    • #766170
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @GrahamH wrote:

      Here’s another quick (or not) one.

      Quick. Ha.:confused: 😀

      Time for a clue perhaps? (Maybe you could tell us if it is on the northside or the southside).

      I’ve a feeling it might be in a park. I don’t know why.

    • #766171
      hutton
      Participant

      @Seamus O’G wrote:

      I’ve a feeling it might be in a park. I don’t know why.

      Nice one; Fionn Uisce FTW 🙂

    • #766172
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @hutton wrote:

      Fionn Uisce FTW 🙂

      The Phoenix Park, eh? Any further details?:)

    • #766173
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Any other clues available?

      Or even white smoke for a location in the Phoenix Park?:)

    • #766174
      urbanisto
      Participant

      How about a monument in Glasnevin Cemetery

    • #766175
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Alas no…

      You’re persistent Seamus, I’ll give you that! I forgot all about this 😮

      It’s still within the canals, as the rule book states 🙂

      Clue of the Day: It’s quite a ‘powerful’ piece…

    • #766176
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Something to do with Gas or Electricity then….

      Or maybe around Leinster House….

    • #766177
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Hmmm – in which case the ‘powerful’ would have two references: indeed three now that I think of it…

    • #766178
      hutton
      Participant

      The Phoenix Park its not – but another ‘flight of fancy’ says its that place where a former owner-occupier Lord Edward Fitzgerald described as “not inspiring bright ideas” – that is to say Leinster House (Kildare St gates); clearly Edward Fitz must have known something about it’s future use… So Kildare St gates of Leinster House ftw! 🙂

    • #766179
      Blisterman
      Participant

      Here’s one, for the guessing.
      I would have done 5, but I don’t have enough photos of Dublin, to do a full 5.
      I’m also slightly breaking the rules by posting a building outside of the canals., but at least that’s a hint for you.

    • #766180
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @GrahamH wrote:

      Graham, I think your photo is of one of the corners of the Government Buildings on Merrion Street Upper.

      http://www.archeire.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/merrion_square/govbuildings_lge.html

    • #766181
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Is it the Powerscourt Townhouse? Cant think it would be

    • #766182
      GrahamH
      Participant

      You can’t think correctly :). It is indeed Government Buildings, Phil – well done.

      Sculpted by Albert Power. The centre of government power. And a powerful piece of architecture 😉

      I can’t think where yours is, Blisterman. Looks like a little garden pavillion in the south suburbs – allbeit with eh, industrial air conditioning plant…

    • #766183
      GrahamH
      Participant

      So no one’s got it yet 🙁

      Well here’s another in the meantime – one of the curiosities of the city that both the location and an explanation for would be welcome! I’d like to know more about it.

    • #766184
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Ashtons?

    • #766185
      Blisterman
      Participant

      Exactamundo PVC King.

    • #766186
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Who, where and/or what is Ashtons?

      I sense an ‘ah back in the day’ shpiel coming on here…

    • #766187
      alonso
      Participant

      the pub in Clonskeagh? the classier alternative to O’Sheas for many years of UCD planners? (and possibly architects) Only ashton’s I know

    • #766188
      GrahamH
      Participant

      And indeed the only Ashtons the idirline cares to mention.

      In which case, nope.

    • #766189
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      i know i know where that is but its refusing to come

    • #766190
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Yours isn’t near Trinity Street / St Andrew Street is it, Graham? I keep meaning to check. It definitely rings a bell with me too.

      *** *** ***

      This one should be pretty easy, I’d imagine. There has been a little creative framing, but it is otherwise undoctored:

      (I thought I should start my next 1000 posts on a high note. :))

    • #766191
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Hmmm – all these development lifestyle blurbs just blur into one. Not Altro Vetro is is? Or the RHK?

      Nope the corbel isn’t near Trinity/Andrew Street alas. If you look closely, you can see where iron armatures or pins once embedded the side of it into a shopfront fascia or similar – a chunk appears to have been cut off underneath that area too. Not that I know why either!

    • #766192
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Blisterman – Is that the gable of the house near the corner of Leeson St and Dartmouth Road?
      KB2

    • #766193
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      graham
      is it on parnell street

    • #766194
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @GrahamH wrote:

      Hmmm – all these development lifestyle blurbs just blur into one. Not Altro Vetro is is? Or the RHK?

      Neither, I’m afraid, but you’re geographically close with one of your guesses. 🙂

      I know what you mean about the lifestyle blurbs – sure isn’t ‘The spirit of gracious living’ available just around the corner from me! – but I’ve never seen a billboard as brutally honest as the one above. 😉

    • #766195
      Blisterman
      Participant

      @KerryBog2 wrote:

      Blisterman – Is that the gable of the house near the corner of Leeson St and Dartmouth Road?
      KB2

      No, PVC king already guessed it. It’s Ashton’s Pub in Clonskeagh.

    • #766196
      GrahamH
      Participant

      ahhh… *clicks*
      Do you have a wider shot Blisterman?

      @Paul Clerkin wrote:

      is it on parnell street

      Afraid not, though a very good guess. It’s in a similar ‘down-at-heel’ environment alright, to use that wonderfully diplomatic local authority term for a kip.

      I took a good look at the Newmarket buildings the other day, ctesiphon. Interestingly, on three of the eh, ‘crenellations’ there is a set of three stone date-stamps: 1798, 1948 and 1998 (cut out of your shot below).

      What would these refer to? The latter at least refers to the date of the brick facades, as you were correct regarding the age of the wall. It’s classic 1990’s red brick with those distinctive (and horrible) little scarry undulations, and the granite dressings are thinner than an Eazy Single – but oddly, move but a few metres away from the building so for the textures to become hard to see, and it bizarrely transforms into a 1940s building.

      Even standing in front of it, it looks old! It’s extraordinary how it manages to trick the eye in design and colouring from a distance – as can even be seen above – and then it reveals all up close. Perhaps it’s a 1998 replica of a 1948 design?

      Incidentally this building, including the tree and a smart new bus stop on Cork Street are all currently starring in one of the Lotto ads with the little furry fellas.

    • #766197
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @GrahamH wrote:

      I took a good look at the Newmarket buildings the other day, ctesiphon. Interestingly, on three of the eh, ‘crenellations’ there is a set of three stone date-stamps: 1798, 1948 and 1998…
      What would these refer to?

      Nothing to do with its origins, by the sounds of things. This from Christine Casey’s Dublin:

      Quote:
      Newmarket is an enormous marketplace laid out in the late 1670s]

      Could the common theme be Republicanism?

      1798: Rebellion.
      1948: Republic of Ireland Act (and150th anniversary of 1798).
      1998: 200th anniversary; Good Friday Agreement.

      I don’t know if the area is significant in Republican history, but I do remember from my time living nearby that there was a lot of green around. 😉

      This might sound a bit far-fetched, but I can’t think what other significance the dates could have.

    • #766198
      alonso
      Participant

      weird. surely 1916 would be the first date one would think of for republican reasons. The GFA is hardly regarded as a major milestone for Irish Republicanism per se, a milestone for the island yes, but not for any particular group. And 1948 isn’t either, especially considering it was a Fine Gael govt which did it. it could explain 1798 but for the other two it’s tenuous at best. I’d find it very odd if this was the case. It’s possible but weird if true. Research!! we must find the answer

    • #766199
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Agreed.

      Also, I was being a little tongue-in-cheek with the GFA. A quick Google (or http://www.blackle.com as we’re all using now, of course :)) for 1998 + republican + Ireland yielded little else, but Yes, it’s a long shot at best. And to further undermine the theory, I have a suspicion the building was completed earlier than 1998 for some reason (and not just because Casey says ‘mid 1990s’ ;)). When I lived nearby in 2001 it seemed more than three years old, for sure- timeless, you might call it. So the choice of 1998 would then be even odder, and presumably intended to commemorate an anticipated anniversary rather than an event yet to happen.

      I’m open to correction/mockery on all of this.

    • #766200
      hutton
      Participant

      Aha finally I get 2 minutes free while theres sunshine – arising out of which, a few new mind-teasers are provided for entertainment -enjoy 😀

      1) Whos got de balls to figure this one out – the framing may help 😉

      2) Where is this, and for extra points what it is:

      3) A bridge too far I hope not – still within the canals see! 😀

      4) New meets old here:

      5) This one’s a bit of an arresting image…

      6) While this one is helpfully obscure enough to ensure that a few of you will be scratching your heads…

      7) And finally I thought I’d throw this one in for those who haven’t seen it yet –

      Enjoy…

    • #766201
      Anonymous
      Participant

      not much good at this but sure here goes …

      2. The Abbey ? Birdhouse ?
      5. Kevin St. Garda Station ?

      6. Harcourt St. possibly ?
      7. I’ll leave for a non dub.

    • #766202
      hutton
      Participant

      @Peter FitzPatrick wrote:

      not much good at this but sure here goes …
      5. Kevin St. Garda Station ?

      Bingo – well done Peter you got that one 🙂

      All others are still open…

    • #766203
      urbanisto
      Participant

      1 is on Dorset Street anyhow. Those are the new lamps. Around Eccles Street maybe
      4 same street
      7 is Cork Street?

    • #766204
      Maxwiggan
      Participant

      number 3 is a wee blue house by Ruth Walsh on the side of the national archive on Bride street around the corner from the former site of the dublin bird market on Peter street. yee haahw!!!

    • #766205
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @hutton wrote:

      6) While this one is helpfully obscure enough to ensure that a few of you will be scratching your heads…

      Number 6 is on the east side of Merrion Street Upper, just beside the junction of Baggot Street, Ely Place and Merrion Row. I remember seeing it and noting how obscure it was. Worryingly, I had a feeling it might appear on this thread some day:)

      7) And finally I thought I’d throw this one in for those who haven’t seen it yet –

      I am familiar with this building, but don’t want to give it away. It kind of reminds me of the ‘Ij Tower’ on Oostelijke Handelskade in Amsterdam

      http://www.neutelings-riedijk.com/index.php?id=13,51,0,0,1,0

    • #766206
      GrahamH
      Participant

      lol – but adapted to the Irish context: clad in red brick :p

      I really like this development too – pass it regularly. There’s a great contrast between it and tiny little two storey cottages that literally abut its gable wall. I keep meaning to get a pic, as illustrates in very real terms the difference in density achieved with alternate models of housing.

    • #766207
      Anonymous
      Participant

      @hutton wrote:

      Bingo – well done Peter you got that one

      All others are still open…

      1 out of 3 !

      Doh !

    • #766208
      hutton
      Participant

      @Maxwiggan wrote:

      number 3 is a wee blue house by Ruth Walsh on the side of the national archive on Bride street around the corner from the former site of the dublin bird market on Peter street. yee haahw!!!

      Spot on Maxwiggan – Bride St indeed on what I think used to be part of Jacobs….However, as to what it is, is still a mystery!

      @StephenC wrote:

      1 is on Dorset Street anyhow. Those are the new lamps. Around Eccles Street maybe
      4 same street
      7 is Cork Street?

      Dorset St is damn hot – but tis not Eccles St ]Number 6 is on the east side of Merrion Street Upper, just beside the junction of Baggot Street, Ely Place and Merrion Row. I remember seeing it and noting how obscure it was. Worryingly, I had a feeling it might appear on this thread some day:) [/QUOTE]

      Phil you are spot on. Buy this man a pint! Wonderfully obscure – but clearly not obscure enough :p … Oh well, great anoraks think alike 😀

      So thats a fair few spotted so… However numbers 3 and 4 are still up for the taking. While number 4 is a little bit of a jest, number 3 really should be got as it is so unique – Gothick/ Gothic Revival archs either side of a classical arch, forming what is clearly a canal bridge – come on folks..:D

      @hutton wrote:

      3)

      4)

    • #766209
      urbanisto
      Participant

      Is 4 on OConnell Street then, in front of teh last remaining Georgian

    • #766210
      hutton
      Participant

      @StephenC wrote:

      Is 4 on OConnell Street then, in front of teh last remaining Georgian

      Oh very good – ’tis indeed O’ C St, although opposite side: It and one other on the same side would seem to be a peculiarity in that they must have been left over from the Georgians prior to the 1921-23 conflict, and subsequently re-integrated with the 20’s / 30’s buildings 🙂

      Excellent stuff – thats pretty much most of them spotted…However no.3 still awaits identification 😉

    • #766211
      Maxwiggan
      Participant

      number3 is wee blue house by ruth walah on the side of the national archive on bride street

    • #766212
      alonso
      Participant

      i think he meant the canal. Would it be cheating to name every single road that crosses the canals?

    • #766213
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      I’d say you could stick to the northside, alonso. I don’t recognise it from the Grand Canal, but I’m not certain of that either- there’s a couple I’d need to check.

      What’s the nearest one to Mountjoy? Prospect Road?

    • #766214
      JuliusCaesar
      Participant

      Where is no. 7? Did i miss the answer?

    • #766215
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      It’s Cork Street / Dolphin’s Barn afaik, JC. Presumably StephenC’s suggestion was close enough.

      Mentioned previously here: https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=3822&page=2

    • #766216
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      @ctesiphon wrote:

      I’d say you could stick to the northside, alonso. I don’t recognise it from the Grand Canal, but I’m not certain of that either- there’s a couple I’d need to check.

      What’s the nearest one to Mountjoy? Prospect Road?

      This one is a puzzle. I think there’s towpath almost directly adjacent to the Royal Canal at least the whole way in from Broombridge to the North Strand – in some cases sharing the bridge with the canal (i.e. under the road). The Grand Canal has less of a recognised towpath in parts, so I’d be inclined to think that’s where it is. On the other hand, it’s more hump-backed bridge territory, and there is a bit more variety of bridges along the Royal, so it might be along that one.:confused:

    • #766217
      GrahamH
      Participant

      I’d also be more inclined towards the Royal; it’s always been the more idiosyncratic of the two. It’s also the younger, as this Gothic revival, rather processed looking bridge suggests. Now where on the canal it is…
      (And who replaced the keytones with limestone?! 😮 )

      The coal covers on O’Connell Street were very well observed – noted them myself for the first time only a few weeks ago. It’s remarkable, indeed odd, they survived the alterations of the 1920s given the thorough rearrangements the pavements would surely have endured with all the building work.

      Clearly they’re late 19th century at the earliest, so would conform with a commerical premises that was built/altered at that time. Or else they’re actually c.1922, but it’s hard to believe coal was still being used on such a domestic scale by then. Turf-fired central heating or at the very least mass-importing of coal to the rear of the new office buildings would surely have been more pragmatic…

    • #766218
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @GrahamH wrote:

      Clearly they’re late 19th century at the earliest, so would conform with a commerical premises that was built/altered at that time. Or else they’re actually c.1922, but it’s hard to believe coal was still being used on such a domestic scale by then. Turf-fired central heating or at the very least mass-importing of coal to the rear of the new office buildings would surely have been more pragmatic…

      I would say they were a replacement cover from the early 20th Century. Does anyone know when Tonge & Taggart were in Windmill lane? That might tell us for sure.

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