how to date house?

@greenscape wrote:

Can someone date this house or point me in the right direction to find out?
http://www.daft.ie/1410655
I’d like to find out how it was built etc.

That should be easy enough for those in the know! For what it’s worth, my guess would be 1945 to 1950.

Ask the vendors – it should be on the deeds.
Or …..knock on a few doors until you find one of the older residents on the street. She will tell you when she moved in to her new house. Failing that, go to the Dublin City Archive on Pearse Street, and look in the back issues of Thom’s Street Directory, until you find the year that the street isn’t listed. Whereas in editions of the last 40 or 50 years list the whole city in alphabetical order, older editions divide the city into districts, so be careful in changeover year to search the right distrcit. Also, many streets change name over time, so check the cross streets which are lsited, and the continuity of names of owners to make sure that the house numbering system hasn’t be changed, as is frequently the case with much older buildings

Thanks folks. I asked the EA but of course they didn’t know. I’ll take it as 1945-50 and do the Thom’s directory thing if I get energetic;)

@greenscape wrote:

I’ll take it as 1945-50

Don’t take that as gospel (in case your life depends on it:p) to widen my guess, I wouldn’t have thought it would be no earlier than 1935 or later than 1955, looking at the construction and materials.

Worth eu450,000? PVC windows, next-door with satellite dish, scruffy grden, well-located area certainly. Anyone hazard a guess at its real worth?

Initial offer max of 390k, not that you’ll get it for that, but you shouldn’t pay that much more, not for Fairview anyway

I had a debate about that on the property pin. Estimates ranged from 450 quid to €350k. This place doesn’t even have central heating but it does have some nice old doors downstairs which I’m a sucker for.

@greenscape wrote:

I had a debate about that on the property pin. Estimates ranged from 450 quid to €350k. This place doesn’t even have central heating but it does have some nice old doors downstairs which I’m a sucker for.

You can always buy old doors….

Maybe the new Dictionary from the IAA (with thanks to Paul Clerkin for posting about it) might be able to help. I did a quick search on Fairview and then found reference to Philipsburgh Ave. Then there was reference to houses built in 1946:

http://www.dia.ie/works/view/37826

Might be these houses. In fact, I am willing to bet that it is them. Gives details of architect etc etc. Might then be worth calling in to the archive to see if there is anything further on them.

Phil

ps, if the reference is right top marks to DOC for averaging their age in the first place:)

There’s some interesting information about the first phase (the east side) of development of Pilipsburgh Avenue (part of the prewar Marino scheme) in Dublin, 1910-1940: shaping the city and the suburbs by Dr Ruth McManus (Four Courts Press, 2002).

@Paul Clerkin wrote:

You can always buy old doors….

I should have this tatooed on my forehead, or rather my husband’s so I can see it when I’m viewing. I’m the kind of fool who’d be put off by a comfortable house properly modernised with ugly doors (particularly the pub lounge looking bubbly glass ones).

Phil I hope it is that one because I was guessing the 40’s myself so I’d be quite chuffed. There’s nothing more on that website about the actual develppment. Is it the Pearse St Archives you are referring to for more info? Is that architect/developer a father/uncle of the fella currently walking around with body guards I wonder?

Hi Trace, I’ll have a look at that book.

Thanks the the enthusiastic responses folks.

Not the one on Pearse Street, but the Irish Architectural Archive on Merrion Square. I think you will be able to look at the various references to it while you are in there.

http://www.iarc.ie/

Maybe someone above hinted at it, but a glance at OS maps from various years might also help.

Best of luck with it.