High Rise Building
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- August 26, 2008 at 11:17 pm #794613
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InactiveOne thing I certainly will say for Dublin is that at least we did not go for such Brutalist structure which inflict all UK cities…..Ballymun was kind of that direction but at least they are going!
August 30, 2008 at 7:33 pm #794614Anonymous
Inactive:D:D:D:DNew city quay development by mountbrook.:D:D:D:D. Anybody any info on this?? The buildings looks great!!!
September 1, 2008 at 9:59 pm #794615Anonymous
Inactive@johnny21 wrote:
The buildings looks great!!!
It not only looks horrendous but it makes everythinng around it look horrendous aswell!
September 1, 2008 at 11:07 pm #794616Anonymous
InactiveIts looks pretty transparent but is quite stumpy in appearance,I would prefer a sleeker design of up to 19,20 stories and the impact on surrounding buildings would be less severe,were going to get a lot of blocky proposals like this if we don’t allow some density.
September 2, 2008 at 5:31 pm #794617Anonymous
Inactive@Bago wrote:
It not only looks horrendous but it makes everythinng around it look horrendous aswell!
The reason why its shape is as it is because of the church, they wouldnt get planning permission if they just built a square shape building,literally blocking most sunlight and overshadowing the church. There will be new developments in this area in the coming years, ddda has plans to designate this area high density.
Maybe a sign of more plans to come!!!
September 3, 2008 at 2:30 am #794618Anonymous
Inactive@johnny21 wrote:
. There will be new developments in this area in the coming years, ddda has plans to designate this area high density.
plan to desingate this area high density,plans jesus h christ
September 3, 2008 at 10:43 pm #794619Anonymous
InactiveThat proposed building beside the Ulster Bank looks ok, but I bet it won’t be built.
September 4, 2008 at 12:01 am #794620Anonymous
Inactive@GregF wrote:
That proposed building beside the Ulster Bank looks ok
:confused:
Eh, no it doesn’t – it’s far too close to the historic core of the city centre, and is an over-scaled greedy arm-chancers scheme. It would also incentise dereliction in the adjacent area by making site values more valuable than existing building values. Thumbs down from me.
As for Johnny21’s “great” mountbrook scheme, again, no. Over-scaled greedy and insensitive. Ah well, at least Sean Dunne isn’t just keeping his crap only in Ballsbridge and Charlesland.
Johnny21 your argument re density is seriously flawed; increased height does not automatically result in higher density – how many more times will that have to be repeated before people wake up and realise that vertical rezonings may be good for developers, yet destroy a city for reasons set out in point no. 1. Finally if you do want to see higher density, why not start with Shrewsbury Road where that hypocrite Sean Dunne has been holding up perfectly fine plans for a modest scheme at the rear of his house… Density indeed, dense in the head.
September 4, 2008 at 12:15 am #794621Anonymous
Inactive@hutton wrote:
Over-scaled greedy and insensitive. Ah well, at least Sean Dunne isn’t just keeping his crap only in Ballsbridge and Charlesland.
Is there any truth to the rumour that older residents of Greystones refer to Charlesland as ‘Charliefermot’?
September 4, 2008 at 12:17 am #794622Anonymous
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InactiveSeptember 5, 2008 at 2:13 pm #794624Anonymous
Inactive“Eh, no it doesn’t – it’s far too close to the historic core of the city centre, and is an over-scaled greedy arm-chancers scheme. “
Ah it does, for it adds scale and weight and it’s far enough away from anything historic, bar Ned’s early house!
:p
September 6, 2008 at 3:54 pm #794625Anonymous
Inactive@hutton wrote:
:confused:
Eh, no it doesn’t – it’s far too close to the historic core of the city centre, and is an over-scaled greedy arm-chancers scheme. It would also incentise dereliction in the adjacent area by making site values more valuable than existing building values. Thumbs down from me.
As for Johnny21’s “great” mountbrook scheme, again, no. Over-scaled greedy and insensitive. Ah well, at least Sean Dunne isn’t just keeping his crap only in Ballsbridge and Charlesland.
Johnny21 your argument re density is seriously flawed; increased height does not automatically result in higher density – how many more times will that have to be repeated before people wake up and realise that vertical rezonings may be good for developers, yet destroy a city for reasons set out in point no. 1. Finally if you do want to see higher density, why not start with Shrewsbury Road where that hypocrite Sean Dunne has been holding up perfectly fine plans for a modest scheme at the rear of his house… Density indeed, dense in the head.
i walked down around that area yesterday and was amazed by how completely grotty and revolting the whole place is. in my opinion, knock every one of those old building in that area down. realistically, there’s nothing worth conserving there. efforts should be made to reconstitute georgian dublin (by rebuildling if necessary) and this area should be wholly given over to redevelopment. and i mean redevelopment without conditions. everybody who wants to build 30 storeys or 50 storeys or 100 should be allowed to go ahead and to add a bit of excitement to an ugly and boring part of the city. you should go to frankfurt if you want an example of how the excessively controlled distribution of high rise buildings results in complete sterility.
September 6, 2008 at 5:45 pm #794626Anonymous
Inactivemaybe 100 is a bit much ๐
… but now that you mention rebuilding, can anyone tell me why there are no new stone buildings like gpo, boi, etc built in recent times? or more georgian buildings for that matter? Is it just that its not cool copying an original or what? crap is routinely inserted here and there around the city, why cant you restore something from scratch if you get what I mean? Would be nice if we could have something of grand civil scale, or even something with a tradtional air about it in new developments… Why not? (genuine question, not rant)
September 6, 2008 at 6:10 pm #794627Anonymous
Inactive@ihateawake wrote:
maybe 100 is a bit much ๐
… but now that you mention rebuilding, can anyone tell me why there are no new stone buildings like gpo, boi, etc built in recent times? or more georgian buildings for that matter? Is it just that its not cool copying an original or what? crap is routinely inserted here and there around the city, why cant you restore something from scratch if you get what I mean? Would be nice if we could have something of grand civil scale, or even something with a tradtional air about it in new developments… Why not? (genuine question, not rant)
i totally agree. people go out of their way to conserve some totally ugly warehouse built in 1915 down by the docks, but then they support building glass or modern buildings in the middle of a georgian terrace. i agree that they should totally rebuild georgians in georgian areas (including fitzwilliam street), take all that ugly painted plaster off half the georgian buildings in the city, restore old lampposts, ensure all sash windows are restored with the correct number of panels, put cobblestones back on the roads around them, and clean them up and apply for UNESCO world heritage status which the unique elegance of georgian dublin would merit if it were properly cared for. and furthermore, i think this treatment should be given to buildings not just in the georgian southside, but in areas like dame street, the quays and the northside too.
on the matter of building neoclassical buildings nowadays, i wouldn’t be in favour of it simply because modern architecture is so much more capable of being great than that sort of architecture.
September 6, 2008 at 6:21 pm #794628Anonymous
InactiveI reagree, unfortunately theres seems to be total apathy/incompetence or both on dcc’s part. It amazes me these people are still allowed to run the city (bins, billboards, clarence, ncc hotel……) We can only hope karma gets them.
September 13, 2008 at 9:49 am #794629Anonymous
InactiveCross gun bridge development approved. planning ref no. 6818/07. 13 storey building along with other blocks.
Only pic i could get:eek:
September 18, 2008 at 2:08 pm #794630Anonymous
InactiveDecisions like this make me go mad!!!!!:mad::mad::mad: Whats wrong with it??
Dublin City Council has granted permission for the re-developement of a former bakery site at Cross Guns Bridge on the Royal Canal but is demanding that a 13-storey tower be scaled back to eight storeys.:mad::mad:
Liam Moran and Vincent Maguire of Stateford Ltd were told they had to reduce the 13-storey tower which is to contain medical suites and scale back the height of two other eight-storey blocks by two storeys. This is the second time Stateford has requested planning permission for the site, last time it was refused planning permission for 200 apartments and a 13-storey tower.
September 18, 2008 at 8:17 pm #794631Anonymous
InactiveHas anyone seen the draft LAP for Phibsboro / Mountjoy, there’s some brilliant photos from other cities in it.
September 19, 2008 at 8:21 am #794632Anonymous
InactiveThe council actually used the Phibsborough Mountjoy LAP recomendations for this site to leverage design changes from the developers here. The LAP asked for a split in any canalside block to allow for light penetration and the provision of a quality waterside public realm with cafe uses etc. This was asked for in the further information request for this project even though the plan wasn’t statutory yet. Nice to see these plans actually being used to influence development. Suprised that the tower got the go ahead tho.
100 posts – woohoo! Only took three years!
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